https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Ps_(military_adage)
The forum wouldn't allow me to actually type it.
lmao i used to have a chief who would say that
Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn
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lmao i used to have a chief who would say that
You'll have to travel a long way
And it'd be an honour to be hunted and killed by you lot
Looking at the UA a bit. Looks like a squid without tentacles. I wonder if Proto-Squids would get this thing up and running. they're found in HIP 41181.
In terms of all the thoughts about where to take one, what mechanisms exist to interact with the local environment? Options seem to be:
1. Take it there and hope it does something on its own. Maybe a clearly interpretable new audio?
2. Sell it there and hope it generates new missions or progression of the story , possibly as staff there are able to analyze it etc.
What else? How about ensuring if its sold somewhere 12 or more SAP 8 cannisters get sold there too. Perhaps station staff or whomever is the end buyer would then be able to put the SAP 8s into what look very plausible like 12 receptacles on the UA? This would also give the whole thing a bit of a community goal feel which seems right. Do SAP 8 missions typically all go somewhere? Maybe that station needs themselves a UA? But I guess if they're prohibited that rules out selling them at most places.
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Wishblend'll come in with this when she sees this post, but just after Branch got his first one, she unfortunately lost hers just after - so there was a short time where there were three.
That said, the scarcity of these things definitely suggests a sort of 'fuzzy' high water mark for the total number in the wild.
But let's just say that's rubbish, and that Branch is a good hunter (or is an FDev and able to /give UA
), that Ratking15 is an exceedingly good custodian to have had his for so long (not to mention making so many vids of his tests); and that any of us could get another one if we keep at it!Now... What to do with them next? Anyone heading out to the California Sector with theirs now?
More importantly... Can we get this solved before this thread reaches critical mass, and we need a third one? We've only got 400 pages left!
I actually know those high pitched tones. They are overtones. I am afraid they sound entirely ordinary, as far as overtones go.
For those of you who are familiar with harmonics, please note that when I say "fundamental tone" I am referring to the first harmonic, while the "first overtone" is the second harmonic, the "second overtone" the third harmonic, and so on.
And for those of you who are unfamiliar with harmonics, I recommend this Wikipedia page on the harmonic series.
By ear (and a tone generator for reference), I can find the 3rd, 4th and 5th overtones corresponding to a fundamental tone of F#, though somewhat sharp, in the sound clip. The actual pitches seem close to 1490 Hz, 1863 Hz and 2235 Hz, which indicates a fundamental tone a bit above 372 Hz. This would suggest the actual fundamental tone is "hidden" from my ears within the constant, lower pitched noise.
A spectral analysis confirms this, showing peaks at approximately 385 Hz, 1525 Hz, 1905 Hz and 2280 Hz. There is also a weaker peak around 2675 Hz, which corresponds to the 6th overtone in the series, and a noisy peak around 1100 Hz, which would be the 2nd overtone. (Transposed to C, the 2nd overtone is a G, and the 6th overtone is a B flat.)
Ignoring the 2nd and 6th overtones, as I am not able to actually hear them, I have tried to transcribe the sequence below, with numbers representing overtones. Parentheses indicate simultaneous tones.
3 4 3 5 4 (3 5) 4 3 4 (3 4 5)
Or, transposed to C, as seen in other posts:
C E C G E (C G) E C E (C E G)
Here is an untransposed and rhythmically approximate musical transcription of that sequence.
So, are there any hidden messages? I don't think so, at least. There does not seem to be any references to any musical themes in this sequence. Listening to the audio file, it simply does not sound like the sequence was composed, but rather like a recording of a naturally occuring sound. Had I not known that this sound was produced by a ship computer to describe the activities of an unknown space artefact, my guess would have been something like a piece of metal rotating against another, wind flowing through a crevice, or something similar. The fan in my bathroom wall actually makes a sound very much like the one in the recording.
Some online links:
EDIT: The presence of harmonics in the sound of the artefact does however fit well with the ancient concept of Harmony of the Spheres or Musica universalis. See for example the Wikipedia page on the subject.
"Pythagoras first identified that the pitch of a musical note is in proportion to the length of the string that produces it, and that intervals between harmonious sound frequencies form simple numerical ratios. In a theory known as the Harmony of the Spheres, Pythagoras proposed that the Sun, Moon and planets all emit their own unique hum (orbital resonance) based on their orbital revolution, and that the quality of life on Earth reflects the tenor of celestial sounds which are physically imperceptible to the human ear."
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I actually know those high pitched tones. They are overtones. I am afraid they sound entirely ordinary, as far as overtones go.
For those of you who are familiar with harmonics, please note that when I say "fundamental tone" I am referring to the first harmonic, while the "first overtone" is the second harmonic, the "second overtone" the third harmonic, and so on.
And for those of you who are unfamiliar with harmonics, I recommend this Wikipedia page on the harmonic series.
By ear (and a frequency generator for reference), I can find the 3rd, 4th and 5th overtones corresponding to a fundamental tone of F#, though somewhat sharp, in the sound clip. The actual pitches seem close to 1490 Hz, 1863 Hz and 2235 Hz, which indicates a fundamental tone a bit above 372 Hz. This would suggest the actual fundamental tone is "hidden" from my ears within the constant, lower pitched noise.
A spectral analysis confirms this, showing peaks at approximately 385 Hz, 1525 Hz, 1905 Hz and 2280 Hz. There is also a weaker peak around 2675 Hz, which corresponds to the 6th overtone in the series, and a noisy peak around 1100 Hz, which would be the 2nd overtone. (Transposed to C, the 2nd overtone is a G, and the 6th overtone is a B flat.)
View attachment 50710
Ignoring the 2nd and 6th overtones, as I am not able to actually hear them, I have transcribed the sequence below, with numbers representing overtones. Parentheses indicate simultaneous tones.3 4 3 5 4 (3 5) 4 3 4 (3 4 5)
Or, transposed to C, as seen in other posts:C E C G E (C G) E C E (C E G)
Here is an untransposed and rhythmically approximate transcription of the sequence.
View attachment 50716
So, are there any hidden messages? I don't think so, at least. There does not seem to be any references to any musical themes in this sequence. Listening to the audio file, it simply does not sound like the sequence was composed, but rather like a recording of a naturally occuring sound. Had I not known that this sound was produced by a ship computer to describe the activities of an unknown space artefact, my guess would have been something like a piece of metal rotating against another, wind flowing through a crevice, or something similar. The fan in my bathroom wall actually makes a sound very much like the one in the recording.
Some online links:
EDIT: The presence of harmonics in the sound of the artefact does however fit well with the ancient concept of Harmony of the Spheres or Musica universalis. See for example the Wikipedia page on the subject."Pythagoras first identified that the pitch of a musical note is in proportion to the length of the string that produces it, and that intervals between harmonious sound frequencies form simple numerical ratios. In a theory known as the Harmony of the Spheres, Pythagoras proposed that the Sun, Moon and planets all emit their own unique hum (orbital resonance) based on their orbital revolution, and that the quality of life on Earth reflects the tenor of celestial sounds which are physically imperceptible to the human ear."
Bingo! Well done!
And your handwritten transcript matches what I hear.
your edit is useful too, as that could give us something to listen out for. Perhaps they're emitting a signature unique to a particular system? Time for some obsessive galaxy map listening?
edit: or could be just part of the sound production technique and nothing at all to do with any hidden clues.
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Thank you!
The connection I thought of was actually the similarly named mission, The silent song of the spheres.
This post by LazerusKI contains a screen shot: #2851
But let's just say that's rubbish, and that Branch is a good hunter (or is an FDev and able to /give UA
Now... What to do with them next? Anyone heading out to the California Sector with theirs now?
More importantly... Can we get this solved before this thread reaches critical mass, and we need a third one? We've only got 400 pages left!
I just didn't take chances and kept it under lock and key while most others were running around with theirs and only undocked when neccessary but I don't think I'll take mine out that far......even if I got more AMU's I may not make it back safely, also I hope we sort it out before the 19,999th post as we're beating the longest thread record I think....
Yes that struck a chord for me too (excuse the pun). That mission type has come up here before, and I often see it on the bulletin boards but the places change
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I'm simply incredulous that while I've spent my last 35-40 hours of game time over the last several weeks searching for these blasted things with no sightings, and CMDR Branch finds a second one in 5 hours.
This game is turning me slightly psychotic, I'm not sure I will survive long enough to actually locate a UA convoy.
Did I read somewhere that it computes something based on your lowest Pilots Federation ranking?
For most of my game time I've either focussed on exploration or trading and have essentially evaded combat.
As a result, I am Ranger (nearly Pioneer) and a Broker.
My Combat rank is only Novice though (and I've only moved up from Mostly Harmless while UA hunting).
Does that mean I am too low a rank to ever see a UA convoy spawn?
CMDR Branch, what Rankings are you?
Also, I'd be interested to know what types of Fed Navy Convoy people are coming across in their hunting.
I'm in 20 Ophiuchi which, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, has SSS that only seem to be spawning basic gold traps or some form of Fed Navy convoy.
I thought this might mean more chance of a UA convoy but nothing found yet.
The most common are either:
- Basic convoy of 3 T9 with misc. goods and light/no escort
- 1 T9 carrying Hafnium with moderate/heavy escort (2+ Anaconda, ~2 Vultures or Vulture and Dropship)
Both have similar frequency and I've seen too many of each to keep count.
Very occasionally I also see:
- 1 T9 carrying Antiquities with moderate/heavy escort (seen this 4 times in 20 Ophiuchi)
- 1 T9 with Hafnium, 1 T9 with Painite and moderate/heavy escort (seen this 2 or 3 times in 20 Ophiuchi).
What other types are people seeing and with what frequency?
I actually know those high pitched tones. They are overtones. I am afraid they sound entirely ordinary, as far as overtones go.
For those of you who are familiar with harmonics, please note that when I say "fundamental tone" I am referring to the first harmonic, while the "first overtone" is the second harmonic, the "second overtone" the third harmonic, and so on.
And for those of you who are unfamiliar with harmonics, I recommend this Wikipedia page on the harmonic series.
By ear (and a tone generator for reference), I can find the 3rd, 4th and 5th overtones corresponding to a fundamental tone of F#, though somewhat sharp, in the sound clip. The actual pitches seem close to 1490 Hz, 1863 Hz and 2235 Hz, which indicates a fundamental tone a bit above 372 Hz. This would suggest the actual fundamental tone is "hidden" from my ears within the constant, lower pitched noise.
A spectral analysis confirms this, showing peaks at approximately 385 Hz, 1525 Hz, 1905 Hz and 2280 Hz. There is also a weaker peak around 2675 Hz, which corresponds to the 6th overtone in the series, and a noisy peak around 1100 Hz, which would be the 2nd overtone. (Transposed to C, the 2nd overtone is a G, and the 6th overtone is a B flat.)
View attachment 50710
Ignoring the 2nd and 6th overtones, as I am not able to actually hear them, I have tried to transcribe the sequence below, with numbers representing overtones. Parentheses indicate simultaneous tones.
3 4 3 5 4 (3 5) 4 3 4 (3 4 5)
Or, transposed to C, as seen in other posts:
C E C G E (C G) E C E (C E G)
Here is an untransposed and rhythmically approximate musical transcription of that sequence.
View attachment 50716
So, are there any hidden messages? I don't think so, at least. There does not seem to be any references to any musical themes in this sequence. Listening to the audio file, it simply does not sound like the sequence was composed, but rather like a recording of a naturally occuring sound. Had I not known that this sound was produced by a ship computer to describe the activities of an unknown space artefact, my guess would have been something like a piece of metal rotating against another, wind flowing through a crevice, or something similar. The fan in my bathroom wall actually makes a sound very much like the one in the recording.
Some online links:
EDIT: The presence of harmonics in the sound of the artefact does however fit well with the ancient concept of Harmony of the Spheres or Musica universalis. See for example the Wikipedia page on the subject.
"Pythagoras first identified that the pitch of a musical note is in proportion to the length of the string that produces it, and that intervals between harmonious sound frequencies form simple numerical ratios. In a theory known as the Harmony of the Spheres, Pythagoras proposed that the Sun, Moon and planets all emit their own unique hum (orbital resonance) based on their orbital revolution, and that the quality of life on Earth reflects the tenor of celestial sounds which are physically imperceptible to the human ear."
Well, it's more than a week than I'm trying to convince all of you that the background noise has a structure I can hear clearly without any "aid", and I had to "isolate" it to proof it.
BTW, even if I have a very good ear, I'm not fully convinced about the fact that there are "notes" in it, apart from a single F# repeating note that sounds to me as morse code in some way.
I'm sure that, whoever recognized that sound I've isolated, can now hear it in the original recording, without any manipulation at all.
That said, I'm not in any way sure that that sound has a meaning, and it is just what it is: a cosmetic background sound made with some synth that sounds like a repeating "bip". And that's all.
I'm saying this because, by now, my bad morse decoding of it, just give me nothing meaningful: hiei 8, or hel 8.
There are some interesting ideas of that concept on this page: http://www.universetoday.com/51468/listen-to-the-music-of-the-spheres/
Ok CMDRs, thanks to GarageBand, I've transcribed and played myself, the "pseudo-morse code" sequence of the background noise for you to listen.
I've played it at a slightly slower speed.
Here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-background-morse-code-optimized
Now it should be a lot easier to compare it to the isolated version of the BG noise, here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-4th-sound-isolated
And to the original UA recording, here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/mars-the-unknown-artefact-1
P.S. the 3 long tones near the end, could be listened as one unique long tone, but I think there are three.
That's all folks.
EDIT: PLEASE USE HEADPHONES!
I've played it at a slightly slower speed.
Here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-background-morse-code-optimized
Now it should be a lot easier to compare it to the isolated version of the BG noise, here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/ua-4th-sound-isolated
And to the original UA recording, here:
https://soundcloud.com/riccardo-sallusti/mars-the-unknown-artefact-1
P.S. the 3 long tones near the end, could be listened as one unique long tone, but I think there are three.
That's all folks.
EDIT: PLEASE USE HEADPHONES!
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Have been trying to catch up with this thread after it piqued my interest. Each time I listen to a recording of an artifact, I keep thinking how it sounds like it is based around the first Voyager recording of the sound of intetstellar space by the Plasma Wave instrument
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...pace-nasa-voyager-1-spacecraft_n_3919983.html
I think I might head on over and join the search for another one...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...pace-nasa-voyager-1-spacecraft_n_3919983.html
I think I might head on over and join the search for another one...
I've been in 20 Ophiuchi also - nothing of interest found since the original mystery comms chatter, which is a shame as I thought this might indicate something, spurred on by the possible plague connection.
In all locations I see similar combinations of spawns as you've described, with added military plans. The gold trap ships carry nothing of interest, having answered my earlier question.
I've just moved back to 109 V, with the reasoning that with more commanders chewing through SSSs then perhaps the spawn probability is greater - as perhaps has been the case at Timocani. Plus it's not as lonely there...!
Has anyone discounted doing these sources in any kind of 'order' - i.e. have the successful finders carried out any actions on SSSs or other signal sources just prior to the successful UA spawn? Such as grab a hafnium, x amount of gold, etc etc. (I'm improving my skill at nabbing more gold from those pesky gold traps before having to peg it, plus my wanted status for 'practicing' stealing goods from other convoys in 109 V expires in a day or so).
I sincerely doubt it's part of the mechanic but would be interested to hear from those that have had the UA convoy successfully spawn just what they did prior...
i think my ears are bleeding now... xD
had it at maximum volume since the other soudns were all so silent...and then WAM.
it looks really a lot like morse, stays the question on how to translate it.
...- .. - .. ---.. = VITI8
...- .. -.. ---.. = VID8
...- .. - .. -.. = VITD
...- .. - .... = VITH (skipped the three extra long ones)
used this translator here http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html
so...is that the whole code, or is there something missing? do these variants make any sense?
the good thing is, that its almost clearly visible where the gaps are, what is long and what is short...but why are there these three insanely long sounds then?
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Have you ever wondered if maybe one of us is an undercover Dev who wants to push us onto the right track?^^
Good to hear that there is one more again
If that's the case then either we are hopeless or the dev is.
Not that far from what I heard... not mad, not mad. wibble.
It still doesn't mean anything to me though.
I was hoping for something like:
..-. ..-. ... / ... . .-.. .-.. / -- . / .- .-.. .-. . .- -.. -.--
But no such luck.
Or both. ;-)
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