Gamescom 2015 - What will FD Unveil?

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  • Colossal

    Votes: 82 12.8%
  • Major

    Votes: 96 15.0%
  • Fundamental

    Votes: 80 12.5%
  • Cheese souffle

    Votes: 382 59.7%

  • Total voters
    640
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Suspension of disbelief is not the same thing as creative intelligence.

You didn't mention either of those things - you talked about imagination. That's a bit more general, and gives me room to use my creative intelligence to poke fun at your apparent inability to suspend your disbelief.
 
You know what? I get that. Some of these made-up books they call "novels" expect me to use my imagination. What's all that about, then? Surely they can just make a movie? But that's no solution, either. Some of these fictional movies will have Daniel Day-Lewis in them. We're apparently expected to pretend that he is not Daniel Day-Lewis, but Shouty American Moustache Man. I know who Daniel Day-Lewis is - he doesn't sound anything like that normally!. It's laughable, really. I paid my ticket - I don't expect to have to employ my imagination to do your job, Hollywood! And don't even get me started on the theatre.


You know what? I get what you're saying also!

I think the "imagination" argument is a conflict between two opinions;

I might say that FDEV use some imagination to make this epic, cool space-based game even more epic and cool, by adding nice touches like a visual experience of Jacques jumping.

You might say "well see let's just offload that imagination to the player".

I am of the opinion that my argument is the better one, and that your argument is somewhat of a cop-out, and generally generates disappointment, more than it does wonderment and excitement about the game, and leads to a beige and grim experience.

Moreover - I am an avid reader of books and have plenty of imagination. I was imagining the visuals in Elite: Dangerous when I was playing the original Elite, and when I was playing Frontier: Elite II. To then actually SEE a Coriolis station rotating in that majestic way they do in ED. Wow! To hear that hum as you pass through the letterbox. Whoa! I'll never get tired of that.

Then to have people saying "use your imagination" when it comes to Jacques, which "jumps to a new location upon a server reboot", and not only that, a refusal to use this feature as a unique way of jumping around the galaxy and exploring new areas. That's "beige".

To have people saying "Use your imagination" when it comes to station assembly - instead of FDEV waiting until they can seamlessly display the actual assembly of a station and not "station construction instantly progresses to the next stage upon a server reboot" - that's beige.
 
You didn't mention either of those things - you talked about imagination. That's a bit more general, and gives me room to use my creative intelligence to poke fun at your apparent inability to suspend your disbelief.

Are you confusing me with somebody else? The only post where I mentioned imagination was later than yours. If you could explain to me how suspension of disbelief or imagination could make the Jaques station leave the civilised bubble please enlighten me. Either way, this claiming of a lack of imagination is a facile argument. I can pretend to be intrepid space explorer Bob on a mission to find alien women to repopulate the Pie system while on the run from my evil 16th wife and her army of Sidewinder flying lovers; that does not change the fact that the exploration mechanics and npc interaction are woefully simplistic.
 
Are you confusing me with somebody else? The only post where I mentioned imagination was later than yours. If you could explain to me how suspension of disbelief or imagination could make the Jaques station leave the civilised bubble please enlighten me. Either way, this claiming of a lack of imagination is a facile argument. I can pretend to be intrepid space explorer Bob on a mission to find alien women to repopulate the Pie system while on the run from my evil 16th wife and her army of Sidewinder flying lovers; that does not change the fact that the exploration mechanics and npc interaction are woefully simplistic.
@Renegade Roach, this isn't a reply to you, but about the whole "imagination" thing, forgive me for quoting you ...

I don't think the "use your imagination" comment was meant to make up for what Frontier haven't quite got right (in each person's opinion), but I think it's meant more like how you need imagination in Minecraft ... I made ... tried to make ... USS Voyager in Minecraft, and while it "looked" vaguely like the ship, being made of 1m x 1m x 1m blocks didn't help ... but if you used your imagination a bit it smoothed out the rough edges, dulled the imperfections.

That's what I think the "use your imagination" comment was meant to say, "yes PowperPlay isn't perfect, and I'm sure Frontier will fix it, but for now if you use your imagination, you can dull those rough edges." ... or at least I think that's how the comment was intended, maybe you disagree.
 
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New trailer:

COMING THIS WEDNESDAY PREPARE FOR DISAPPOINTMENT...

Dear Dave Braben and Ian Bell,


Thanx for making the Elite game. I cant dock but I like shooting the pirates and my cOBRA is cool!


Love Tom aged 6


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Dear David Braben,


I think Frontier Elite 2 is amazing. I can fly anywhere in the Milky Way and I think I've found my own house.


Love Tom aged 16




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Dear Trading Standards,


I have forwarded a copy of this complaint to my solicitor.


I wish to register a complaint against one Frontier Developments. Their most recent update to the computer entertainment product 'Elite Dangerous' was pre-emptively described by Frontier employees as both "Colossal" and "Mouth-watering"


I have attached dictionary definitions from several sources vs my documented account of what was described. As you will see from my conclusions the proposed content addition to the product could not be described as either of these terms.


This has destroyed my life.


Tom Whiner
Aged 37

Briliiant :-D

A slightly sad reality, but nothing I'll lose sleep over.

Personally as someone whose stepped away from the game for a while to persue other activities, but still read the newsletter, I look forward to the announcement, I wager it'll be planetary landings as I think that might be easier to achieve than exiting the pilot seat (from my veery limited grasp of programming) and it won't be all in one smash, but as the original game was, built to be expanded as it goes.

Despite not having played for about 3 months, I do have the watery mouth described by ZeeWolf(love the vids btw) but I will not be seeking litigation if it's not what I expect. I'll probably just wait until the next big announcement, and hope that enough people buy the game over time to continue it's developlent at a good pace.

Happy Days, keep smiling either way people, life's too short.
 
There now follows a polite request from the sensible side of the Community, who I absolutely have no right to say I represent ....

Whatever the announcement is about ...

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE ONLY ONE THREAD ABOUT IT THAT EVERYONE POSTS IN AND NOT HUNDREDS OF THREADS ON THE SAME TOPIC?


Thank you for you co-operation
 
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This poll has made me hungry.
Must eat something Cheesy
But it is midnight and one should each cheese before going to sleep.
Such Dilemmas keep me up at night
 
There now follows a polite request from the sensible side of the Community, who I absolutely have no right to say I represent ....

Whatever the announcement is about ...

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE ONLY ONE THREAD ABOUT IT THAT EVERYONE POSTS IN AND NOT HUNDREDS OF THREADS ON THE SAME TOPIC?


Thank you for you co-operation

Look on the bright side. In a couple of days, we will not have the front page bunged up with duplicate threads discussing what might be being announced.





We will just have duplicate threads discussing what was announced.
 
I doubt any announcement will be to do with Planetary landing as judging by the scale of galaxy that would be a monumental task which would take years i would imagine. I would be happy with some extra gloss, visible people at starports and more scenery variety, and perhaps a few different types of missions.
 
I doubt any announcement will be to do with Planetary landing as judging by the scale of galaxy that would be a monumental task which would take years i would imagine. I would be happy with some extra gloss, visible people at starports and more scenery variety, and perhaps a few different types of missions.

Logic would suggest it's something fairly significant with how much they're building it up themselves!
 
Look on the bright side. In a couple of days, we will not have the front page bunged up with duplicate threads discussing what might be being announced.





We will just have duplicate threads discussing what was announced.

Maybe the mods should just set up an entire subforum for the colossal thing. I dread both the idea of the entire general discussion forum filled with threads about the same thing, and the idea of all these threads merged into one huge mega-thread where you cannot possibly actually discuss particular aspects of the thing.
 
I'm not getting my hopes up this time, after they said how great Powerplay was and then it arrived.. I'm crossing my fingers that it'll be something awesome but we'll see.
 
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