Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Han_Zen]

Final Hafnium report. Couldn't shake the escort AGAIN. Its either dumb luck, or something based on your history. When I started playing with Convoys, they would nearly always drop 1 Conda on the 1st jump. 2nd Conda might take a couple more jumps to shake off, but not too bad. Since I did a few trials of actually attacking the T9 and taking the Hafnium, the escort is extremely difficult to shake. Luck, Coincidence, Who Knows. SSSSS.

If anyone is interested in critiquing my methods, here is a capture of the 2nd jump. (Excuse the TMS commentary )

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brs9vsM6YfE&feature=youtu.be

To many great tests, to little rep.

I can only say thank you.

 

[Han_Zen]

Once again I have been thinking a bit. It hasen't done us any god so far, but here goes.

What if the UA is an ancient Thargoid setteling probe?

That French scientist on GalNet hinted it was from a different time.

So, what kind of planets do Thargoids like? We don't know much, but we know they liked Merlin.

As Merlin has been teraformed, the closest thing I can think of is Europa.
Europa is supposed to have salt water oceans covered by ice, just like Merlin used to have.

Could it be something.

 

[Seon]

Thargoids like ammonia atmosphere, I believe.

 

[Dommarraa]

Once again I have been thinking a bit. It hasen't done us any god so far, but here goes.

What if the UA is an ancient Thargoid setteling probe?

That French scientist on GalNet hinted it was from a different time.

So, what kind of planets do Thargoids like? We don't know much, but we know they liked Merlin.

As Merlin has been teraformed, the closest thing I can think of is Europa.
Europa is supposed to have salt water oceans covered by ice, just like Merlin used to have.

Could it be something.

Could be, but I thought it had been tried. Ammonia World about 10 degrees colder than ELW comes to mind.

 

[bitstorm]

Once again I have been thinking a bit. It hasen't done us any god so far, but here goes.

What if the UA is an ancient Thargoid setteling probe?

That French scientist on GalNet hinted it was from a different time.

So, what kind of planets do Thargoids like? We don't know much, but we know they liked Merlin.

As Merlin has been teraformed, the closest thing I can think of is Europa.
Europa is supposed to have salt water oceans covered by ice, just like Merlin used to have.

Could it be something.

I posted a bunch of stuff about this a while back.

On the assumption that it's looking for inhabitable worlds...

From captured Thargoid vessels the atmosphere was found to be slightly colder and slightly higher pressure than humans can tolerate.

I don't have my spreadsheets here at work but putting some ballpark guesses together I came up with some ranges for temperature and atmospheric pressure.

I noticed that a lot of Ammonia worlds seem to be commonly at 2.28 atmospheric pressure. Although 2.28 was slightly higher than I'd guessed (like most people I have no concept of pressure!), I was happy to accept 2.28 as it seemed the "common value" much like Earth-likes tend to be at 1.0 atmospheres.

That left temperature, I think my "reasonable guess" was -40c to 0c, so 233-273 kelvin.

I then went hunting for planets in that range, but Ammonia worlds are hard to find and in the end I found none. I did however find one that was *just* outside my *guessed* range.

219k 2.28 atmospheres. So at -54 celsius, which does sound reasonable-ish for Thargoids.

So I dropped the UA right inside the supercruise drop zone (hopefully atmosphere) of the planet

[video=youtube;FzDhZPB3PfM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDhZPB3PfM[/video]

Alas nothing.

There may be better candidates for this test if people know any or want to look.

 

[EAGLE 5]

I posted a bunch of stuff about this a while back.

On the assumption that it's looking for inhabitable worlds...

From captured Thargoid vessels the atmosphere was found to be slightly colder and slightly higher pressure than humans can tolerate.

I don't have my spreadsheets here at work but putting some ballpark guesses together I came up with some ranges for temperature and atmospheric pressure.

I noticed that a lot of Ammonia worlds seem to be commonly at 2.28 atmospheric pressure. Although 2.28 was slightly higher than I'd guessed (like most people I have no concept of pressure!), I was happy to accept 2.28 as it seemed the "common value" much like Earth-likes tend to be at 1.0 atmospheres.

That left temperature, I think my "reasonable guess" was -40c to 0c, so 233-273 kelvin.

I then went hunting for planets in that range, but Ammonia worlds are hard to find and in the end I found none. I did however find one that was *just* outside my *guessed* range.

219k 2.28 atmospheres. So at -54 celsius, which does sound reasonable-ish for Thargoids.

So I dropped the UA right inside the supercruise drop zone (hopefully atmosphere) of the planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDhZPB3PfM

Alas nothing.

There may be better candidates for this test if people know any or want to look.

Ammonia worlds are more than likely hard to find because ammonia has a very tight freeze-boil temperature range. It freezes at -77.7C and boils at -33.3C meaning that the temperature range required to take ammonia from a solid to a gas is only about 45 degrees. Water is 100 degrees, so while ammonia based life forms are possible (thargoids we know of) they should be more uncommon than say humans because if is far harder to find planets that are "just right". I also think the higher pressures are meant to stabilize but I'm not sure on that.

Also from a terraforming standpoint it seems like terraformed worlds have higher atmospheric pressures and that is probably to counter the fact that there is less oxygen in the air mixture. Earth for example has 1 ATM and oxygen is 20ish percent. A lot of terraformed worlds have around 8-10% of oxygen in the atmosphere but the atmospheric pressure is usually around 2 to 2.3. I thought this was interesting maybe some scuba divers can chime in on this I think they play with air and pressure for their tank mixtures.

 

[Tallsword]

Random assumption:
Antares and Beluga liner should hold a lot of similarities. Why hasn't Beluga been produced yet? (of course in means of RP)
TL;Wont Write - UA "unlocks" information or pictures about the Antares or its wreck, a sneak peak on the Beluga, once it makes it into the game... Since the Antares isn't the only ship that suffered similar problems they'll just assume it was a matter of RNG it disappeared and produce the Belugas.
Pretty random. Wonder if someone will confirm it or not.

 

[Han_Zen]

Could be, but I thought it had been tried. Ammonia World about 10 degrees colder than ELW comes to mind.

I know we have looked at ammonia worlds, but Merlin was a Ice moon with no athmosphere.
All life was confined to the oceans under the Ice.
The Thargoids were interested in this type of environment.

 

[Derthek]

The Thargoids were interested in this type of environment.

Ahh That's right

I often forget that story. I'll spend some time rereading thanks

 

[I and I Redeye]

I managed to get a Hafnium 178 convoy and capture it on video if you want to anaylize it.
Same method I used for UA convoy which I think was one jump away from this system.

[video=youtube_share;uCxRF5yi-6g]https://youtu.be/uCxRF5yi-6g[/video]

 

[EAGLE 5]

I know we have looked at ammonia worlds, but Merlin was a Ice moon with no athmosphere.
All life was confined to the oceans under the Ice.
The Thargoids were interested in this type of environment.

I thought merlin had an oxygen atmosphere (pink/purple sky) and the domes were because of the extreme cold.

I didn't think the place was airless.

 

[Han_Zen]

I thought merlin had an oxygen atmosphere (pink/purple sky) and the domes were because of the extreme cold.

I didn't think the place was airless.

You are probably right. There is no description either way about the atmosphere of Merlin, but Sirocco port is described as windswept.

Here is the reason for the interest from the Targoids:

"The Thargoids have requested permission to send a scientific delegation to investigate the ice world Merlin. Apparently, their researchers believe that there may be similarities between the sub-polar eco-system of Merlin and certain local ecosystems which have evolved on their ammonia-based planets."


Local ecosystem is the key. Do Europa have potential for a similar ecosystem?

 

[EAGLE 5]

You are probably right. There is no description either way about the atmosphere of Merlin, but Sirocco port is described as windswept.

Here is the reason for the interest from the Targoids:

"The Thargoids have requested permission to send a scientific delegation to investigate the ice world Merlin. Apparently, their researchers believe that there may be similarities between the sub-polar eco-system of Merlin and certain local ecosystems which have evolved on their ammonia-based planets."


Local ecosystem is the key. Do Europa have potential for a similar ecosystem?

If you're talking about vast underground salty oceans then yeah Europa and Merlin are probably very similar. They are also similar in that they orbit a gas giant.... to think of it so did the planet in the Horizons trailer but that is pure speculation on my part. From an atmospheric standpoint Europa is practically airless above the ice while Merlin has an atmosphere. Sorry I'm at work but I would have fired up frontier and taken a screenshot of the system description for Ross 154

 

[Julio Montega]

Ahoy!
Didn't track the thread for some time, but has the ua benn brought to "TIONISLA" already?
One of the Elite-Romans mentioned a ship-graveyard there,
but nothing is mentioned on the system screen.

 

[EAGLE 5]

Ahoy!
Didn't track the thread for some time, but has the ua benn brought to "TIONISLA" already?
One of the Elite-Romans mentioned a ship-graveyard there,
but nothing is mentioned on the system screen.

An interesting experiment. Unfortunately the Tionisla orbital graveyard is not in the game.. not sure they'll plan on putting it in but it certainly would be a fantastic addition.

 

[Julio Montega]

An interesting experiment. Unfortunately the Tionisla orbital graveyard is not in the game.. not sure they'll plan on putting it in but it certainly would be a fantastic addition.

The question is:
"Will the ua be able to unveil the graveyard?"

 

[EAGLE 5]

The question is:
"Will the ua be able to unveil the graveyard?"

Don't know but probably not. Its existence is basic lore so to not have it is either a matter of FD not having technically built one for the game to potentially disregarding altogether like a lot of other lore items.

But who knows should be an easy test either way.

 

[Julio Montega]

Don't know but probably not. Its existence is basic lore so to not have it is either a matter of FD not having technically built one for the game to potentially disregarding altogether like a lot of other lore items.

But who knows should be an easy test either way.

Maybe they ran out of "Krait"-chassis, because of the the era we play in,
and the graveyard was cannibalized?
Maybe hidden? Who knows, I'd laugh out loud,
if ye uncover the big secret was a "hidden graveyard" within "commonly known lore".

I still think, that the ua might be able to find the planet "Raxxla" which seems to be tied to the "Dark Wheel"-Lore.
You know the old child-games, where you searched for something (hot/cold) blind?
Searched the Galmap... no "Raxxla" or other combination of the characters does match.
Suspicious...

 

[Dommarraa]

I managed to get a Hafnium 178 convoy and capture it on video if you want to anaylize it.
Same method I used for UA convoy which I think was one jump away from this system.

Thanks for that, think I will get me a few rail guns and give it a go. Hoping the escorts leave seems too risky

 

[clavain]

I posted a bunch of stuff about this a while back.

On the assumption that it's looking for inhabitable worlds...

From captured Thargoid vessels the atmosphere was found to be slightly colder and slightly higher pressure than humans can tolerate.

I don't have my spreadsheets here at work but putting some ballpark guesses together I came up with some ranges for temperature and atmospheric pressure.

I noticed that a lot of Ammonia worlds seem to be commonly at 2.28 atmospheric pressure. Although 2.28 was slightly higher than I'd guessed (like most people I have no concept of pressure!), I was happy to accept 2.28 as it seemed the "common value" much like Earth-likes tend to be at 1.0 atmospheres.

That left temperature, I think my "reasonable guess" was -40c to 0c, so 233-273 kelvin.

I then went hunting for planets in that range, but Ammonia worlds are hard to find and in the end I found none. I did however find one that was *just* outside my *guessed* range.

219k 2.28 atmospheres. So at -54 celsius, which does sound reasonable-ish for Thargoids.

So I dropped the UA right inside the supercruise drop zone (hopefully atmosphere) of the planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDhZPB3PfM

Alas nothing.

There may be better candidates for this test if people know any or want to look.

Waaaay back around the time the Leviathan theory started, we had a few posts back and forth on possible ammonia worlds, including Quy/Quiness and Merlin (which I think has been terraformed since the FFE days?)