UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

[Sigon]

Have you? So it was not the first time it happened huh...A bit frustrating.

As for the Alioth permit, I'm still friendly with Alioth Independents, but I'm starting to wonder: what if I just farm a CZ for the Alliance until I get "Allied"? I should then be "allied" with Alioth Independents as well shouldn't I?

I never did any missions for Aliance but still got the permit. I did it the fun way: collecting bounties for the Alliance and handing them in. It is a good way to gain reputation.

I understand RandomGuy found two UA? Can he tell us in which system(s) he found them, so they can be added to the Wiki? I understand it was at least once in the Pleiades, so the Pleiades theory still hasn't been falsefied and the 'specific astrophysical bodies in a system) becomes less and less likely.

With regards to the multiple tons of Hafnium and other goodies in convoys, that might be FDevs way to balance the Piracy role a little, since there has been a lot of complaining in the past that it is almost impossible to get anything valuable from NPCs. Then again, it might have significance.

 

[Gorrister]

Why sell a UA at Alioth?

 

[OBERHIEM]

Gutted i'm away this weekend and wont be able to meet you all for the hauler exravaganza, i've only actually met one person in game so far, not even done a wing. Maybe next event.

 

[Vingtetun]

So basically it appears that the higher the metal content in a system or location the more likely that we find UAs. It seems then that magnetism is maybe a key factor. In a way sole hunter did hint at this with planetary magnetic fields theory. I think I'll be tackling this angle for a bit.

Could it be that the free floating (not yet picked up by a convoy) ones are probes out there to discover metal rich planets for exploitation by whoever created them?

Same as we hunt for metal rich places to go mining or res farming?

Out of interest, were the free floating locations also places with res?

 

[Kalearne]

I understand RandomGuy found two UA? Can he tell us in which system(s) he found them, so they can be added to the Wiki? I understand it was at least once in the Pleiades, so the Pleiades theory still hasn't been falsefied and the 'specific astrophysical bodies in a system) becomes less and less likely.

He posted full details of one of the finds on page 196

 

[Wishblend]

Gutted i'm away this weekend and wont be able to meet you all for the hauler exravaganza, i've only actually met one person in game so far, not even done a wing. Maybe next event.

Sorry I am in deep space for a while so can not meet up.

 

[Gorrister]

If you are after metal rich planets, go for HIP 15868. It got seven of them. Why does this number sound familiar?

 

[Ratking15]

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Oooooo new dots! I'll just snipe these......and boom!••••••••• Hows that? Thanks Murp!

 

[Han_Zen]

Could it be that the free floating (not yet picked up by a convoy) ones are probes out there to discover metal rich planets for exploitation by whoever created them?

Same as we hunt for metal rich places to go mining or res farming?

Out of interest, were the free floating locations also places with res?

If there is indication that the UA is 'interested' in metal, I think it should be tested.

- Drop UA in Metal Rich ring. Deep inside.
- Drop UA in Metal Rich astroid belt.
- Drop UA inside dropout zone of a metal rich planet (Higher content is better).

My guess if this is the case, is that the UA will indicate the presences of Hafnium 178. Bring a mining laser tho check the closest hunk of rock.

 

[Dommarraa]

Home System:
After reading the FD posting about this, we would become controlling faction of the system. This unfortunately probably rules out the Permit systems. FD are not going to hand that over to a new faction, and we would have no stations outside the system, so nobody could gain the permit until we expanded. I would love Peregrina but Not going to happen.

Min/Maxing and going for a "best" system would be : Hi Tech, Large Station close to star, Outpost with Black Market, Metalic Rings, Major Res, Not in PP
For Canonn Flavour : Sci Outpost, MR and other airless worlds, Some association with UA or Thargoids, Near(ish) Pleidaes/Polaris

IMHO, it might be a mistake to focus on the Min/Max criteria. Any really juicy system will have a big footfall. We are never likely to be a force to be reckoned with, and may end up loosing the system, or having to spend our time fighting for control against traders, pirates or other reprobate groups after a Hi Tech of their own.

However, after a reasonable amount of research, I found NGANJI. All of the above criteria except : Rings are only Metal Rich , RES is only Medium, PP LiYoind (probably the best choice of Powers), No association with UA/Thargoids that I know of. That is a pretty darned good match. It has a foot fall of 199 ships in the last 24 hours, I dont know if that is good or bad, but half of those are Conda/T9 (could just be a couple of repeat traders)

I put forward Nganji for your consideration, but would be perfectly happy with Timocani or some other crap-hole that suits the ethos of Canonn.

 

[rizal72]

If there is indication that the UA is 'interested' in metal, I think it should be tested.

- Drop UA in Metal Rich ring. Deep inside.
- Drop UA in Metal Rich astroid belt.
- Drop UA inside dropout zone of a metal rich planet (Higher content is better).

My guess if this is the case, is that the UA will indicate the presences of Hafnium 178. Bring a mining laser tho check the closest hunk of rock. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/images/icons/vbposticons/icon12.gif

It was the first test I did, after acquiring CMDR RandomGun's UA

Tests I've made last night:

1) Dropped the UA inside the dropzone of a metal rich planet in one of the systems where it was found floating: nothing unusual.
Then I dropped it in the middle of two high metal planets orbiting each others: nothing unusual.
2) fired the ADS in short taps, to produce a sequence of notes to the UA: nothing unusual.
3) fired the ECM repeatedly at it: nothing unusual.
4) Following someone's advice I tried to focus my attention on the UA target/pointer, the one with the three arrows: it does not rotate and always point at the same direction. I've tried to select the systems in the nav panel to see if it was pointing to one of them. BTW I think this thing needs further inspection. I think that the UA is always pointing at "some point" in the galaxy. The problem is how to understand/triangulate it, being in normal space.

A good test I will do is:
Bring the UA to Sol, drop near the star, examine the UA pointer, and select all the systems in the nav panel, to find one that is at least close to the direction the UA is pointing. Watch the galaxy map and note the direction.
Than I'll do the same test a few times to see if the direction is the same.
Then I'll go do this same test in another system, far from sol, to see if the direction is the same.

I hope to find an area in the Galaxy, the UA is pointing at.

 

[Ratking15]

It was the first test I did, after acquiring CMDR RandomGun's UA

Tests I've made last night:

1) Dropped the UA inside the dropzone of a metal rich planet in one of the systems where it was found floating: nothing unusual.
Then I dropped it in the middle of two high metal planets orbiting each others: nothing unusual.
2) fired the ADS in short taps, to produce a sequence of notes to the UA: nothing unusual.
3) fired the ECM repeatedly at it: nothing unusual.
4) Following someone's advice I tried to focus my attention on the UA target/pointer, the one with the three arrows: it does not rotate and always point at the same direction. I've tried to select the systems in the nav panel to see if it was pointing to one of them. BTW I think this thing needs further inspection. I think that the UA is always pointing at "some point" in the galaxy. The problem is how to understand/triangulate it, being in normal space.

A good test I will do is:
Bring the UA to Sol, drop near the star, examine the UA pointer, and select all the systems in the nav panel, to find one that is at least close to the direction the UA is pointing. Watch the galaxy map and note the direction.
Than I'll do the same test a few times to see if the direction is the same.
Then I'll go do this same test in another system, far from sol, to see if the direction is the same.

I hope to find an area in the Galaxy, the UA is pointing at.

Me, Zenith and Nilreb tried this already and it was found to be random as I dropped my UA and it pointed in the same ish direction twice in one system and then down the line of where it pointed I dropped it three times and it pointed in different dirrections completely.

 

[Han_Zen]

Home System:
After reading the FD posting about this, we would become controlling faction of the system. This unfortunately probably rules out the Permit systems. FD are not going to hand that over to a new faction, and we would have no stations outside the system, so nobody could gain the permit until we expanded. I would love Peregrina but Not going to happen.

Min/Maxing and going for a "best" system would be : Hi Tech, Large Station close to star, Outpost with Black Market, Metalic Rings, Major Res, Not in PP
For Canonn Flavour : Sci Outpost, MR and other airless worlds, Some association with UA or Thargoids, Near(ish) Pleidaes/Polaris

IMHO, it might be a mistake to focus on the Min/Max criteria. Any really juicy system will have a big footfall. We are never likely to be a force to be reckoned with, and may end up loosing the system, or having to spend our time fighting for control against traders, pirates or other reprobate groups after a Hi Tech of their own.

However, after a reasonable amount of research, I found NGANJI. All of the above criteria except : Rings are only Metal Rich , RES is only Medium, PP LiYoind (probably the best choice of Powers), No association with UA/Thargoids that I know of. That is a pretty darned good match. It has a foot fall of 199 ships in the last 24 hours, I dont know if that is good or bad, but half of those are Conda/T9 (could just be a couple of repeat traders)

I put forward Nganji for your consideration, but would be perfectly happy with Timocani or some other crap-hole that suits the ethos of Canonn.

I will add my vote to Nganji.
It has whats needed. PP is nothing to worry about. Only headquarters and disputed systems are filled with Cmdrs.

If we are looking for a base that is more of a hide out, I have always enjoyed Avik.

Avik is right next door to Sol, has one outpost, independent, no PP connection.
It's no longer an anarchy, like it used to be. I think it's controlled by Sirius corporation (not Rui) at the moment. The system is easy to switch to what ever we want.

 

[Ratking15]

I will add my vote to Nganji.
It has whats needed. PP is nothing to worry about. Only headquarters and disputed systems are filled with Cmdrs.

If we are looking for a base that is more of a hide out, I have always enjoyed Avik.

Avik is right next door to Sol, has one outpost, independent, no PP connection.
It's no longer an anarchy, like it used to be. I think it's controlled by Sirius corporation (not Rui) at the moment. The system is easy to switch to what ever we want.

This isn't meant to be really talked about here......remember the pm?

 

[Huros]

Draft Potential Home Candidates

Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Canonn!

below is a list of everything i have scraped together from the thread for a Home for "The Canonn".

The list for submission will close at noon on monday GMT/UTC. you can submit on the thread but i would appreciate if you copy it in a PM to me as i am organising this part. They will be whittled down to 3 candidates by the Canonn Council, and we will start a thread or a PM for you guys to vote on YOUR preferred base of operation. That will be posted on tuesday and you will a couple of days to vote in the poll. Then "Hey Presto!" as if by magic, we will have selected a home base.(hopefully) but we will have some reserves if the devs cannot let us have it.

Anyone who has been following these community threads will have an idea of what we need, Ammonia worlds, airless moons, maybe up towards Polaris, maybe close to a great trade route.


As we have a really tight schedule we need to really consider what we are voting on. so you all have plenty of time to look at and think about i am posting the list here and will drop updates along the way. Remember most of these will not make the voting options.
Suggestions to date. (i have not checked the suitability AT ALL - yet)

1. HIP 6796
2. LUNGUNI
3. HR 1185
4. HR 1172
5. PLEIADES SECTOR IR-W DI-34
6. FALL (only because the name is cool :/ )
7. KOTAITION
8. MORTEN-MARTE
9. PEREGRINA
10. NEW YEMBO
11. TIMOCANI
12. 64 ARIETIS

please feel free to discuss and also PM me with any new suggestions. Please also feel free to Pm, or post in thread, reasoning for and against

 

[Han_Zen]

This isn't meant to be really talked about here......remember the pm?

Ups. Sorry.

 

[rizal72]

Me, Zenith and Nilreb tried this already and it was found to be random as I dropped my UA and it pointed in the same ish direction twice in one system and then down the line of where it pointed I dropped it three times and it pointed in different dirrections completely.

Ok.
We are talking about the pointer that every object you target has, right? The one with three arrows. not the UA itself, or its head.
Correct?

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Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Canonn!

below is a list of everything i have scraped together from the thread for a Home for "The Canonn".

The list for submission will close at noon on monday GMT/UTC. you can submit on the thread but i would appreciate if you copy it in a PM to me as i am organising this part. They will be whittled down to 3 candidates buy the Canonn Council, and we will start a thread or a PM for you guys to vote on YOUR preferred base of operation. That will be posted on tuesday and you will a couple of days to vote in the poll. Then "Hey Presto!" as if by magic, we will have selected a home base.(hopefully) but we will have some reserves if the devs cannot let us have it.

Anyone who has been following these community threads will have an idea of what we need, Ammonia worlds, airless moons, maybe up towards Polaris, maybe close to a great trade route.

Suggestions to date. (i have not checked the suitability AT ALL - yet)

1. HIP 6796
2. LUNGUNI
3. HR 1185
4. HR 1172
5. PLEIADES SECTOR IR-W DI-34
6. FALL (only because the name is cool :/ )
7. KOTAITION
8. MORTEN-MARTE
9. PEREGRINA
10. NEW YEMBO
11. TIMOCANI
12. 64 ARIETIS

please feel free to discuss and also PM me with any new suggestions.

You've listed a lot of system without any station/outpost:
I think a station is needed, and the system must be inhabited, isn't it?

 

[Ratking15]

Ok.
We are talking about the pointer that every object you target has, right? The one with three arrows. not the UA itself, or its head.
Correct?

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You've listed a lot of system without any station/outpost:
I think a station is needed, and the system must be inhabited, isn't it?

Nilreb I think followed up on that part or Zenith•••••but yes the compass, pointing stuff has been done but go ahead.

 

[Huros]

Ok.
We are talking about the pointer that every object you target has, right? The one with three arrows. not the UA itself, or its head.
Correct?

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You've listed a lot of system without any station/outpost:
I think a station is needed, and the system must be inhabited, isn't it?

I have not had the opportunity to vet the list yet and i think we might be able to request a station be added.

 

[Kyp Shard]

It's not going to help you get the permit. You need to build rep with that specific minor faction. The easiest place in my opinion is 78 Ursae Majoris. Alioth Independents control a station there, so run some missions that they are offering, or sell them some exploration data. Shouldn't take that long.

They control a few stations there, but hardly any missions are showing up for them. Gah!

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