UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

[Dommarraa]

The system must be inhabited: that's why I suggested 64 Arietis -> it's the nearest inhabited system to Pleiades, it has a nice station, there are a few HH RES, and the outfitting is well furnished

But :
There are no outposts, so it will require a UA holder to sneak home with silent running every time. I wont be doing that in my Python or Conda, I would rather get scanned and pay the 150,000cr fine
There is hardly anywhere to expand to. I know we are not going to rule the universe, but a bit of expansion would be nice.

 

[Popov Le Magnifique]

I never did any missions for Aliance but still got the permit. I did it the fun way: collecting bounties for the Alliance and handing them in. It is a good way to gain reputation.
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That's what I thought, Alioth Independents being a minor faction of the Alliance, if you are allied with the Alliance, you automatically get allied with its minor factions don't you?

I was farming missions for 78 Majoris and another one (Erthegeze or something like that), I'll check surrounding systems for interesting RESs. Thanks!

 

[RedWizzard]

But :
There are no outposts, so it will require a UA holder to sneak home with silent running every time. I wont be doing that in my Python or Conda, I would rather get scanned and pay the 150,000cr fine
There is hardly anywhere to expand to. I know we are not going to rule the universe, but a bit of expansion would be nice.

I think having both a station and an output is absolutely necessary. Agree about the potential to expand too, though I'm not sure exactly what the range on expansion is so I'm not sure how critical the location is. Anyone know?

 

[Nicholas Powell]

But :
There are no outposts, so it will require a UA holder to sneak home with silent running every time. I wont be doing that in my Python or Conda, I would rather get scanned and pay the 150,000cr fine
There is hardly anywhere to expand to. I know we are not going to rule the universe, but a bit of expansion would be nice.

You just helped a thought emerge... Surely we, as the system/station's overlo... uh, administrat... well, bosses could determine what is and is not ilicit cargo? Something to check with Zac there, I guess.
As for expansion, yeah, definitely - and more than just nice it would be strategically essential for fear of being stuck in one foxhole come any troubles.

 

[RedWizzard]

That's what I thought, Alioth Independents being a minor faction of the Alliance, if you are allied with the Alliance, you automatically get allied with its minor factions don't you?

I was farming missions for 78 Majoris and another one (Erthegeze or something like that), I'll check surrounding systems for interesting RESs. Thanks!

The minor faction standing includes both your standing with the major faction and a minor-faction-specific component. To get a permit it's not enough to be allied with the major faction, you also need some amount of rep with the minor faction specifically.

 

[Dommarraa]

I couldn't agree more. The key to my mind is having as many boxes ticked as possible, and is why I proposed Kotaition (and why I feel Lugungi and Nganji are also strong candidates). It's not about what we're doing now, but about what we might find ourselves doing in two years time. We need in-system 'stuff' to keep us entertained, fueled with options and generally able to beg up Canonn-based CGs as we go forward.
The thing is, the Canonn will become - quite quickly - less about the UAs than the Next Thing, even concurrent Next Things and I would prefer to be 'based' in a system that is either already stocked with stuff to do when I want a break or close by other systems that will round out the resources we don't have. It's just not going to be any Fun, for example, lugging the tonnage to build a Scientific Surface Compound (or whatever) for a future CG we push for if the system is way out in the boondocks.

Kotaition isnt a bad one. Lack of a black market of any description seems to be its biggest failing. I dont know what RES situation is like. On the slightly minor points, stations are not VERY close to the star, nothing major, but if you have a blown canopy 1400ls is a long way. It also looks a little dull, no pretty planets for screenies.

I cant find Lugungi

 

[Popov Le Magnifique]

Why sell a UA at Alioth?

[video=youtube;JEAhvRNNS7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAhvRNNS7M[/video]

 

[Dommarraa]

You just helped a thought emerge... Surely we, as the system/station's overlo... uh, administrat... well, bosses could determine what is and is not ilicit cargo? Something to check with Zac there, I guess.
As for expansion, yeah, definitely - and more than just nice it would be strategically essential for fear of being stuck in one foxhole come any troubles.

I would not expect us to be able to determine that, its an aspect of the Government type etc AFAIK. My UA was only ever legal in a true Anarchy system.

 

[Ratking15]

But :
There are no outposts, so it will require a UA holder to sneak home with silent running every time. I wont be doing that in my Python or Conda, I would rather get scanned and pay the 150,000cr fine
There is hardly anywhere to expand to. I know we are not going to rule the universe, but a bit of expansion would be nice.

Well...........I can get into station but I do like outposts as they are smoother sailing......but I'm fine with ethier though that's me and I am currently the longest bearer without break.

You just helped a thought emerge... Surely we, as the system/station's overlo... uh, administrat... well, bosses could determine what is and is not ilicit cargo? Something to check with Zac there, I guess.
As for expansion, yeah, definitely - and more than just nice it would be strategically essential for fear of being stuck in one foxhole come any troubles.

That is a good point.....as when the Imperials take a system imperial slaves are allowed there.....I think we should be able to change some things though I think frontier may restrict as to what due to well......what would you do if a system next to you allowed a comoddity that was used for weaponary like halfnium? Most would fear them and try to take over the system or something like that.

 

[RedWizzard]

Kotaition isnt a bad one. Lack of a black market of any description seems to be its biggest failing. I dont know what RES situation is like. On the slightly minor points, stations are not VERY close to the star, nothing major, but if you have a blown canopy 1400ls is a long way. It also looks a little dull, no pretty planets for screenies.

I cant find Lugungi

It's Lunguni.

 

[bitstorm]

God I'm a right miserable sod but I honestly can't see a home system being of much relevance.

The system thing just seems to be a mechanism for Frontier to push groups into fighting over territory, in that if it's your own group you'll be more invested that fighting for them rather than <insert random pp figure here>.

Tech level, what outfitting it has, I don't see as being important, it's unlikely anyone is going to be "based" there, nor or is likely we will be defending if some other power decides they want to take over, we are not the type of group that's going to be tied to a system. Talking about we must have this or that means nothing because people meet where ever is most convenient, and log in and log off where ever. If it doesn't have a black market or an outpost, in the end so what? It's something to talk about I suppose but in reality it's a total non-issue.

We could say tomorrow, our home system is Beta Sculptoris, but it wouldn't mean anything. I would not be any more likely to visit there unless something interesting happened like a bunch of UAs were spotted.

It would be nice to have a system that's interesting lore-wise attached to the Canonn name but beyond that I don't see the point of it except that Frontier says every group needs to pick one.

 

[EAGLE 5]

Could it be that the free floating (not yet picked up by a convoy) ones are probes out there to discover metal rich planets for exploitation by whoever created them?

Same as we hunt for metal rich places to go mining or res farming?

Out of interest, were the free floating locations also places with res?

This classifies for tinfoil fedora but what if the Thargoids want to get even? We created a bug that are through their plastic organic ships they are working on one that eats through metal hence why they need plenty of it to test and the UAs corrosive nature?

If there is indication that the UA is 'interested' in metal, I think it should be tested.

- Drop UA in Metal Rich ring. Deep inside.
- Drop UA in Metal Rich astroid belt.
- Drop UA inside dropout zone of a metal rich planet (Higher content is better).

My guess if this is the case, is that the UA will indicate the presences of Hafnium 178. Bring a mining laser tho check the closest hunk of rock. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/images/icons/vbposticons/icon12.gif

I read up on Hafnium yesterday. Interesting uses especially the weapon controversy with the gamma rays emissions... Also pretty scary.


Question is... Who is making the UAs and what is their weapon of choice..

Walken without rhythm and you won't attract the Worm.

That is my weapon of choice. You win today sir.

 

[RedWizzard]

God I'm a right miserable sod but I honestly can't see a home system being of much relevance.

The system thing just seems to be a mechanism for Frontier to push groups into fighting over territory, in that if it's your own group you'll be more invested that fighting for them rather than <insert random pp figure here>.

Tech level, what outfitting it has, I don't see as being important, it's unlikely anyone is going to be "based" there, nor or is likely we will be defending if some other power decides they want to take over, we are not the type of group that's going to be tied to a system.

It would be nice to have a system that's interesting lore-wise attached to the Canonn name but beyond that I don't see the point of a home system except that Frontier says every group needs to pick one.

The minor faction is tied to the system. So if we want to expand the minor faction we'll be spending a fair amount of time there. Of course we could choose to ignore this stuff and just be a player group, but I think it's really cool to have an official presence in the game. I feel a lot more interested and excited about this than about (e.g.) powerplay.

 

[Gorrister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAhvRNNS7M

Ah. Ok. Thanks.

 

[Dommarraa]

It's Lunguni.

Ah, there it is:

Not a terrible system itself, but it isnt Hi Tech, is the rump-end of nowhere, and miles from any UA activity. Plus no selfy planets

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God I'm a right miserable sod but I honestly can't see a home system being of much relevance.

The system thing just seems to be a mechanism for Frontier to push groups into fighting over territory, in that if it's your own group you'll be more invested that fighting for them rather than <insert random pp figure here>.

Tech level, what outfitting it has, I don't see as being important, it's unlikely anyone is going to be "based" there, nor or is likely we will be defending if some other power decides they want to take over, we are not the type of group that's going to be tied to a system. Talking about we must have a black market or outpost means nothing because people meet where ever is most convenient, and log in and log off where ever. If it doesn't have a black market or an outpost, in the end so what? It's a total non-issue.

We could say tomorrow, our home system is Beta Sculptoris, but it wouldn't mean anything. I would not be any more likely to visit there unless something interesting happened like a bunch of UAs were spotted.

It would be nice to have a system that's interesting lore-wise attached to the Canonn name but beyond that I don't see the point of it except that Frontier says every group needs to pick one.

I mainly agree, I think Timocani would do just fine and dandy. I hope we get 2 votes, 1 for a "good" system, 1 for a "canonn" system

 

[RedWizzard]

Ah, there it is:

Not a terrible system itself, but it isnt Hi Tech, is the rump-end of nowhere, and miles from any UA activity. Plus no selfy planets

I mainly agree, I think Timocani would do just fine and dandy. I hope we get 2 votes, 1 for a "good" system, 1 for a "canonn" system

What sort of planet is selfy-worthy?

Timocani is lacking a station. I think that's a pretty big negative.

 

[Derthek]

God I'm a right miserable sod but I honestly can't see a home system being of much relevance.

I personally don't have time to progress another minor faction besides my own so I'm in the same boat.

Although there are some fantastic cmdrs among us who I know will enjoy the prospect of a "Canonn System" & "Canonn Faction" my home will always be sol.

Despite my stance, I'm happy to see the devs putting in this kind of effort!

 

[bitstorm]

The minor faction is tied to the system. So if we want to expand the minor faction we'll be spending a fair amount of time there. Of course we could choose to ignore this stuff and just be a player group, but I think it's really cool to have an official presence in the game. I feel a lot more interested and excited about this than about (e.g.) powerplay.

But why the chuff would we want to expand the minor faction, honestly, who cares. I mean it's just Powerplay under another name.

One group of humans have decided they "own" some systems? So what? The Canonn could own half the populated bubble and it still wouldn't matter at all to anything the Canonn does.

 

[nikos]

God I'm a right miserable sod but I honestly can't see a home system being of much relevance.

....

It would be nice to have a system that's interesting lore-wise attached to the Canonn name but beyond that I don't see the point of it except that Frontier says every group needs to pick one.

Why not try to tick all boxes? A lore-friendly, high-tech system with a station, a research outpost, a black market and a few gas giants with RESs.

This way, you're happy even if not interested in faction expansion, but people who are can play their game too.

 

[clavain]

But why the chuff would we want to expand the minor faction, honestly, who cares. I mean it's just Powerplay under another name. Which humans "own" which systems? Meh. The Cannon could "own" half the galaxy and I still wouldn't give a monkey's.

This, +1. And some extra characters.