UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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What if (again this damn "what if" haha) the UA was created by the Federation using Thargoid technology mixed with their own in order to find SS1 and find out who did that? Of course, that would be a pretty complex plan to retrieve a wreckage, unless it has to do with another corporation with a big influence and they need to do it in secret. Everybody thinks it's Thargoid so they can continue on their search without anybody knowing. Except Palin was about to discover it, that's why they shut down his project.

That's interesting. I like the theory. Especially considering we haven't heard much about SS1 in quite a while. Another possibility is that it's was created by the humans but is looking for stranded Thargoid vessels that were disabled by the Mycoid virus. But now that you mention SS1, that seems a bit more likely.
 
That's interesting. I like the theory. Especially considering we haven't heard much about SS1 in quite a while. Another possibility is that it's was created by the humans but is looking for stranded Thargoid vessels that were disabled by the Mycoid virus. But now that you mention SS1, that seems a bit more likely.



Thanks, unfortunately, it can't be that, the UAs appeared before SS1's disappearance, I'm stupid.
 
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There's a much simpler explanation, surely? The UAs were first retransmitting Morse that was already out there - station names, nearby bodies etc. That's how <whatever their source is> learned it, and now they're using it as a low-bandwidth transmission protocol...presumably because they want us to find them.

Let's not forget that - IIRC - the original news articles suggested that the Thargoids knew nothing about them, they didn't appear to be alien in origin and they're really, really old.

I'm guessing it's a lost colony. BSG, anyone?

That does actually fit in pretty well.

And the results? Inconclusive. The research team’s results clearly state that no known human technology could have created the relics, yet they do not quite align with known Thargoid materials. Whatever they are, they are indeed very old, with isotopic dating indicating that they could well be tens of thousands of years old.




Jean Molyneaux, a historian from France, Earth, suggests we look back at our own past to determine the home of these relics. “Imagine an alien travelling back two thousand years into mankind’s past. The varied culture, arts and building materials of the Aztecs, Greeks, the Shang dynasty, what have you, the alien could think they were all different species, if that was his way of thinking…”

A spin off human civilisation, far off, communicating using Morse since that's a common communication encoding from before the "split". I'm not that familiar with the Elite lore, has there been anything in the distant lore past about persons being lost in the void, sucked into wormholes, abducted by aliens in to Witchspace, travelling in colonisation ships, or anything like that?
 
If were going after the cargo I suggest we take out the escorts, disable the python and grab "All" the contents of the hold. it may be the combination of cargo
is significant.

Always wanted to do this with a UA convoy but never got the chance.

You could try this in a dis-connected wing; 1 fast ship takes shield on Python, fires hatch breaker and runs. Second ship wait for Medical Research canister drop and picks it up with no fuss whatsoever. If not dropped, rinse repeat. Bad Guy - Good Guy tactic.
 
That does actually fit in pretty well.



A spin off human civilisation, far off, communicating using Morse since that's a common communication encoding from before the "split". I'm not that familiar with the Elite lore, has there been anything in the distant lore past about persons being lost in the void, sucked into wormholes, abducted by aliens in to Witchspace, travelling in colonisation ships, or anything like that?

Yes, the Antares incident: a huge Colony spaceship, lost in space somewhere...
 
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A spin off human civilisation, far off, communicating using Morse since that's a common communication encoding from before the "split". I'm not that familiar with the Elite lore, has there been anything in the distant lore past about persons being lost in the void, sucked into wormholes, abducted by aliens in to Witchspace, travelling in colonisation ships, or anything like that?

Yes. More or less all of that has happened in the past, except abductions I think.
 
Medical research aside, are we sure Merope is the only star the UAs will point to? More specifically has anyone taken one to the other side of aries dark region? They may be pointing to the closest 'hot point'. Which sometimes glitches, causing a UA to point to another one unreliably. Maybe getting far away from Merope will cause it to point at another star. I say Aries dark region, because that keeps getting mentioned in GalNet. Could be a hint. I know Pleiades is in that area, but its only a small part of that area.
 
Medical research aside, are we sure Merope is the only star the UAs will point to? More specifically has anyone taken one to the other side of aries dark region? They may be pointing to the closest 'hot point'. Which sometimes glitches, causing a UA to point to another one unreliably. Maybe getting far away from Merope will cause it to point at another star. I say Aries dark region, because that keeps getting mentioned in GalNet. Could be a hint. I know Pleiades is in that area, but its only a small part of that area.
They have been dropped in several places several hundred ly away. Not categorical, but good enough for me.
 
We've talked about it yesterday, remember? I suggested California Nebula as it lays outside the line from Sol to Merope.
I also told you that it is around 1000Ly from Sol. ;)

BTW people already been there, and found no spawning SSs.

I was out there, oh maybe a month ago now. While I did not see any SS's, I did encounter a solitary SSS, around 150ish Ly from Orion, when heading back home by way of Betelgeuse.

I think that's the farthest out SS I've encountered, and it must have been really rare, as after I tried to find another for hours, and no luck.

I would tell you what system exactly it was in, but there was this pretty little AI Relic, you see, and then there were Anacondas everywhere, so it was boost, boost, boost, hi-wake, forget where I came from. :( I couldn't even find the system again, despite the aforementioned hours of looking.

Our experience seems to show that SS spawn rates are not always static though, so it might be worth someone going back out there.
 
May I throw another crazy theory here? The UAs were first discovered in convoys right? (Only Federal ones?) They are from semi-extraterrestrial origin given the fact they also emit morse and are apparently able to give a visual representation of our ship. Now, I've been thinking about other events involving ships and non-celestial bodies, like stations or super massive ships...Yeah, I'm talking about Starship One.

What if (again this damn "what if" haha) the UA was created by the Federation using Thargoid technology mixed with their own in order to find SS1 and find out who did that? Of course, that would be a pretty complex plan to retrieve a wreckage, unless it has to do with another corporation with a big influence and they need to do it in secret. Everybody thinks it's Thargoid so they can continue on their search without anybody knowing. Except Palin was about to discover it, that's why they shut down his project.

Anyway, I've just made myself another tinfoil hat (named it Solid Tin) and thought I'd use it a little bit.

I like it, but aren't the UA way too old for that?
 
Yes. More or less all of that has happened in the past, except abductions I think.

Let's think about this for a second. The Thargoids did pull traders off into witchspace... let's imagine that they weren't killed but imprisoned and sent off somewhere and that maybe some successfully escaped captivity. Armed with only improvisation and whatever the Thargoids had laying around, it would be feasible that this separate human civilization would develop using some mix of Thargoid tech to resist their captors. An interesting possibility is that these humans may be trying to contact the rest of humanity and that the reason they survived this long is because of A. the advanced tech they repurposed and B. the Thargoids probably retreated when they lost the war and subsequently relations became peaceful.

I would think that these humans would be very much in a state of alert much like the Japanese solider who guarded that one island in the pacific by himself decades after WWII had ended. This could be a VERY interesting plot twist that could spark a war or introduce similar belligerent Thargoids who also didn't get the memo that everything was done because they were off chasing after the human rebels.


blank slate = awesomeness, are you listening FD?
 
Let's think about this for a second. The Thargoids did pull traders off into witchspace... let's imagine that they weren't killed but imprisoned and sent off somewhere and that maybe some successfully escaped captivity. Armed with only improvisation and whatever the Thargoids had laying around, it would be feasible that this separate human civilization would develop using some mix of Thargoid tech to resist their captors. An interesting possibility is that these humans may be trying to contact the rest of humanity and that the reason they survived this long is because of A. the advanced tech they repurposed and B. the Thargoids probably retreated when they lost the war and subsequently relations became peaceful.

I would think that these humans would be very much in a state of alert much like the Japanese solider who guarded that one island in the pacific by himself decades after WWII had ended. This could be a VERY interesting plot twist that could spark a war or introduce similar belligerent Thargoids who also didn't get the memo that everything was done because they were off chasing after the human rebels.


blank slate = awesomeness, are you listening FD?

Maybe they arent probes as much but pointers towards themselves? And they only started pointing after verifying the contact is human?
 
There was a post on Galnet about that old colony ship approaching Sol at near lightspeed a while back.

Yes I know: we've talked about it in this thread when we tried to link the UA with virtually EVERYTHING in game ;)

I was out there, oh maybe a month ago now. While I did not see any SS's, I did encounter a solitary SSS, around 150ish Ly from Orion, when heading back home by way of Betelgeuse.

I think that's the farthest out SS I've encountered, and it must have been really rare, as after I tried to find another for hours, and no luck.

I would tell you what system exactly it was in, but there was this pretty little AI Relic, you see, and then there were Anacondas everywhere, so it was boost, boost, boost, hi-wake, forget where I came from. :( I couldn't even find the system again, despite the aforementioned hours of looking.

Our experience seems to show that SS spawn rates are not always static though, so it might be worth someone going back out there.

Do you know that, if you enable the verbose logging in the AppConfig, you can read all the systems you visit in your log?

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=116684

Then you can use tools like EDDiscovery to see all the statistics of your trips ;)

http://edcodex.info/?m=tools&entry=10
 
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Maybe they arent probes as much but pointers towards themselves? And they only started pointing after verifying the contact is human?

If everything panned out the way I speculated then yes that makes perfect sense.

In the simplest of ways the UA may be doing this (INITIATE SCAN.... IF TARGET IS NOT AN OCTAGON THEN "OVER HERE!!!!" ELSE SELF DESTRUCT)
 
Yes I know: we've talked about it in this thread when we tried to link the UA with virtually EVERYTHING in game ;)

But did we think of the offshoot civilizations back then?

What if those people actually settled somewhere, developed a whole different civilization and tech, and the UA are theirs?
 
But did we think of the offshoot civilizations back then?

What if those people actually settled somewhere, developed a whole different civilization and tech, and the UA are theirs?

It's a theory that i like very much, unfortunately we don't have anything right now... But dropping more than one UA in Merope could be a good start to see if something changes...
 
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