Is switching between open and solo play to gain new missions considered a punishable exploit?

I really don't understand why people are so passionate about regulating other peoples' gameplay.

If person A wants to mode-swap and make more credits per hour of his time, why would anyone care? He doesn't affect me or anyone else other than himself by doing so. Why could this possibly cause such a heated discussion? Is this some type of competition for how fast you can make money or something? I just don't get it, and I can't imagine anyone calling it an exploit.
I call it an exploit because it meets the definition of an exploit.

What I'm not doing is judging it as wrong, since I agree everyone should play however the hell they wish if it doesn't interfere with other players.
 
I call it an exploit because it meets the definition of an exploit.

What I'm not doing is judging it as wrong, since I agree everyone should play however the hell they wish if it doesn't interfere with other players.

Ahh, but people exploit the BB - earn loads, get bored, start ganking newbies or ram griefing others due to being bored with everything else.....

It's a chain of events !
We have to stop it at the first link in the chain, or we are doomed I tell ya, DOOOOOOMED !!!!

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Ahh, but people exploit the BB - earn loads, get bored, start ganking newbies or ram griefing others due to being bored with everything else.....

It's a chain of events !
We have to stop it at the first link in the chain, or we are doomed I tell ya, DOOOOOOMED !!!!

;)
Lets set up the Sothis Scanning Sowing Circle, where we scan every 'trader' going in and out of the station over a nice cuppa tea while discussion the weather.

Our motto can be: You'll hate us now, but you'll thank us later :)

I call it an exploit because it meets the definition of an exploit.

What I'm not doing is judging it as wrong, since I agree everyone should play however the hell they wish if it doesn't interfere with other players.
Thinking about this some more and getting my amateur psycho babble freak on.

I think people object to it being called an exploit, because they would rather believe that reloading to reroll the RNG is intended gameplay and they're making money without using tricks. That is living in denial. Embrace your inner greed-child and accept yourself as you are.
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But I'm afraid that's all we have time for, same time next week?
 
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The BGS of Sothis is a lost cause pretty much under the current madness, that much is true.

But the same applies for most systems with a lot of traffic. They are really hard to control.

And I don't know how many times I have to repeat it, but I have personally made suggestions about how the missions system regarding the BGS should be changed and I'm also continuously doing tests on the BGS regarding many of its changes. So whatever floats your boat. I do not accept RNG in important aspects of the game. If you personally call that cheating, I won't lose my sleep over that.

In the end of the day, FD has done nothing to adress any of those issues, regardless how much the BGS related player groups report their findings. We've had very little change up to date, even in outright broken aspects.

And unless you actively participate in the BGS, I don't think you will get to understand how much RNG can push you back, so this is fruitless. And unlike credits, influence updates only once per day, so pushing you back actually does mean losing a whole day.

I do understand, I've worked on pushing the BGS same as you have, I realized quickly that it's not something we can easily push around, and that is by design.

Little thing you and so many others forget, we are NOT the Heros, we don't get to decide policy or be the movers and shakers of the universe, we're just cogs in the machine. A large enough group working together in a single system can push the BGS, it has been done, so we do know what it takes, and it's a lot. A single individual isn't going to be able to push the BGS under normal circumstances, nor should they be able to. Again, we are not the Heros, we're just cogs in the machine.

Not the answer you want, I know, you want to be able to manipulate the BGS however you decide, FD didn't set it up that way because it's a really dumb idea to allow that in any game, much less a multiplayer game. So you do what you do to try and get around that design, complaining the entire time about how the BGS is broken because it's not doing what you think it should.

picocommander, why should FD change how often we can get missions? They obviously set it up the way it is for a reason, a rather simple and obvious reason no less, it's a limit on how fast you can make money, get reputation with a faction, and change influence for the factions via the BB mission system. Simple and basic game design, you limit the ability of the player to progress to a rate you deem best instead of allowing them to just blast through everything in nothing flat. Which is exactly what people are trying to do right now, bypass the built in timers.
 
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sorry to say but removing SOLO PLAY will make the game awesome...no more exploits of any kind (i can list a few) and no more "i do what i want into enemy zones since AI is programmed by babies" now its just garbage for average people. i'm taking a break of it until they will realize that the game must be online only.
It's been explained many times that they couldn't remove solo if they wanted to. The game was sold as PEGI7 throughout Europe. Can't have exclusively multiplayer and maintain the PEGI7 rating. Sorry, but solo is here to stay and you have zero chance of it ever being removed.
 
sorry to say but removing SOLO PLAY will make the game awesome...no more exploits of any kind (i can list a few) and no more "i do what i want into enemy zones since AI is programmed by babies" now its just garbage for average people. i'm taking a break of it until they will realize that the game must be online only.

On top of the PEGI rating issue .... the other thing is they originally promised an OFFLINE game .... given they dropped that and caused a stink the next best compromise is SOLO .... which puts the least strain on the network connection on the client end...

I know when i'm playing on my laptop and head into a popular area i simple cannot play in OPEN ... the game drops to around 10 fps because of the inefficiencies in the network stack .... if i jump into SOLO the fps is around 30-40 ie. playable

SOLO is required to make the game available and playable on low-bandwidth and low-spec machines.... on-top of the fact i wouldn't let my kid play in open on the basis i don't want him exposed to potentially foul language at his age if i can help it so the PEGI7 option is ideal for kids
 
I really don't understand why people are so passionate about regulating other peoples' gameplay.

If person A wants to mode-swap and make more credits per hour of his time, why would anyone care? He doesn't affect me or anyone else other than himself by doing so. Why could this possibly cause such a heated discussion? Is this some type of competition for how fast you can make money or something? I just don't get it, and I can't imagine anyone calling it an exploit.

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On top of the PEGI rating issue .... ...

The game has a different rating in the U.S. to what it has in the E.U. - discovered that in another thread a few weeks ago.

IIRC the U.S. has ED marked teen game and the E.U. is PEGI 7 - so 2 completely different audiences. I think this causes a lot of friction.

For none-E.U. people, this is how ED is sold in Europe;

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I have to laugh openly at people that forget its a game, it is meant to be fun. Do whatever makes it fun for you and don't worry about others. Of course that is only true as long as your actions are not directly effect other players game play.

Definitely true.

Also, being focused on how other players progress in the game is completely meaningless since the game is by nature NOT competitive in any way. At least not unless you insist on making it so.

If someone else "cheat" their way to a conda slightly faster than they otherwise would have - what's it to you?


As for the OP's question - using the game 100% according to how it is implemented is never ever an exploit.
 
Seriously, whoever is hung up on this just has too much time on their hands. Who cares? It doesn't hurt anyone. This game doesn't even have an open, player driven market so you can't claim it disrupts that. Some people get their shiny expensive stuff a little faster. So?

The alternative is that they nerf it so that relogging solo/open doesn't regenerate missions, so when you decide to go ranking up it'll take you even longer than it takes now because you can't get good missions to spawn. Oh joy, that sounds like fun. I really hope FD won't listen to complainers in this instance.
 
Stuff like this and Open vs Solo is what makes me hate online aspects of games nowadays more and more. People keep forgetting the difference between competitive games and games that happen to have a couple competitive aspects. Just let people do whatever the hell they want to do. Want to get credits as fast as possible? Fine. Want to play solo? Fine. Want to play what you enjoy with low credit yield? Fine. Want to play online? JUST DO IT.
Stop trying to make people adjust to your messed up picture of what's right or wrong if it doesn't affect you.

For crying out loud, half the people here probably also yell at people wearing clothes they don't like or throw garbage at gay people because that's "just wrong". Considering the average age of players (according to the polls) makes these kinds of "discussions" even more embarrassing. Grow the hell up people.
If it doesn't affect you - just keep your mouths shut for once.

Is switching modes for more missions punishable? Not that I know. Should it be punishable or prevented somehow? Maybe. Let the devs decide.
 
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Stuff like this and Open vs Solo is what makes me hate online aspects of games nowadays more and more. People keep forgetting the difference between competitive games and games that happen to have a couple competitive aspects. Just let people do whatever the hell they want to do. Want to get credits as fast as possible? Fine. Want to play solo? Fine. Want to play what you enjoy with low credit yield? Fine. Want to play online? JUST DO IT.
Stop trying to make people adjust to your messed up picture of what's right or wrong if it doesn't affect you.

For crying out loud, half the people here probably also yell at people wearing clothes they don't like or throw garbage at gay people because that's "just wrong". Considering the average age of players (according to the polls) makes these kinds of "discussions" even more embarrassing. Grow the hell up people.
If it doesn't affect you - just keep your mouths shut for once.

Thank you for being sane. There are way too many people who genuinely think they have the right to decide when others are having fun wrong. Even when it doesn't affect them in the slightest.
 
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The game has a different rating in the U.S. to what it has in the E.U. - discovered that in another thread a few weeks ago.

IIRC the U.S. has ED marked teen game and the E.U. is PEGI 7 - so 2 completely different audiences. I think this causes a lot of friction.

For none-E.U. people, this is how ED is sold in Europe;
And where does it say that online only games can't be pegi 7? I searched and couldn't find anything. Iirc splatoon is pegi7 and online multiplayer only.
 
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Thank you for being sane. There are way too many people who genuinely think they have the right to decide when others are having fun wrong. Even when it doesn't affect them in the slightest.

Are there no scenarios where this type of gameplay would "affect them in the slightest?" Okay..Let's play devil's advocate. What if the player who just rammed you from behind in the mail slot with an Anaconda and their buddy who then pursued you and destroyed your ship in their tricked out Python got their virtual toys by using this exploit. Impossible you say? Hardly...
 
Because it's too cliche. I find it unfair for him to have a monopoly in dogmatism.

Like comparing someone to the KKK? ROFLMAO!

Anyway...if you understand the words that are coming out of my finger...I was being a devil's advocate. I pointed out that assuming this style of gameplay has no effect on other players is just that...an assumption.
 
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