UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

danubezoe · Nov 30, 2015

Popov Le Magnifique said:
..............So if there is a commodity/in-game thingy that can prevent UA damage to ships.................

Frameshifting temporarily disables damage from the UA, do the UA feel at home in "Witch Space"? I know there is that boring explanation that is more plausible but, well it's boring

King Sancho · Nov 30, 2015

clavain said:
No cueing of violins necessary - read T. James Out of the Darkness...

I don't think there was ever any evidence that UAs were being brought there, it just happened to be in the same general area where the first UA convoys were sighted IIRC. Not convinced myself that the two are connected.

The UA connection, or Alien Artifact, is from the Galaxy Map descriptions. And no, I do not think there is much of a connection between the SS1 and Anatares to Peregina. I posted that light heartedly. Though I can find it plausible that Peregina and UAs are connected.

clavain · Nov 30, 2015

King Sancho said:
The UA connection, or Alien Artifact, is from the Galaxy Map descriptions. And no, I do not think there is much of a connection between the SS1 and Anatares to Peregina. I posted that light heartedly. Though I can find it plausible that Peregina and UAs are connected.

What does the Galaxy Map at Peregrina say about UAs? I thought it just talked about the plague and the moon being out of bounds. Mind you its been a long time, and 30 or 40,000 posts ago since I looked, so could very easily be wrong.

Popov Le Magnifique · Nov 30, 2015

Damn it, I can't rep you guys!

King Sancho, you lucky mustard! I got my Peregrina Permit for that exact reason. I'll be joining you...SOON^TM.

EAGLE 5 said:
Just the sort of fun thing that a fast ship and a skilled SRV operator should be able to pull off...

I like it.

Let's organise that then. ; ) Who wants to join us?

Kyp Shard · Nov 30, 2015

Mosquito2k said:
Evening!

My thinking about UAs corrosive behavior(and itself gets hurt as well?) in our ships cargo space:

-Our ship interior temp is probably 21° C, and humidity is 40% and pressure 1 atm

-Ammonia boils -33.34 ° C in 1 atm(and if UA is ammonia-based living organism, boiling probably harm it)

-Ammonia-gas will combines water quite well.. ammonia-gas becomes ammonium hydroxide..

-Ammonium Hydroxide will rapidly react with copper, brass, zinc and many alloys, especially those containing copper and corrode them. Ship electronics probably contain copper(and copper alloys) alot..

Workable theory?

Me likey

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King Sancho said:
You can never have too much tinfoil when you link SS1, Antares, UAs, and Merope. More I say!

Btw Pop.. Too add another sheet of foil, I am chilling in Peregina and noticed that the station Talos 1, which orbits the quarantined moon Undine, is a Science Research station.

So a Scientific Research station is orbiting a moon that is locked down, with Universal Kill On Sight orders. The same system known for the Unknown Alien Artifacts being brought there.

*Cue the Shrilly violins... and DUn DUn duuuun.

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Rep button is gone so +virtual rep.

Actually - hold on.... the rep button is gone! Does this mean the forums are getting affected by UA damage now too? Who's been bring UA's to the forum??!!

Ayal · Nov 30, 2015

relayer said:
Oh no, not The Clans!

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Whew, Forums working again...

Just to say "thanks!" to all the folks who replied to my "where's the other aliens?" post. Tried multiquoting several times & only got borkage, so please forgive me for not metioning specific replies. I've had enough fighting the forums today.

Hey what's wrong with the clans ?

Im am a mechwarrior player and love the clan wolf so there is nothing wrong with them

King Sancho · Nov 30, 2015

clavain said:
What does the Galaxy Map at Peregrina say about UAs? I thought it just talked about the plague and the moon being out of bounds. Mind you its been a long time, and 30 or 40,000 posts ago since I looked, so could very easily be wrong.

Clavain.. I attempted to paraphrase from memory the description, and only came up with "blah blah blah quaratine, blah blah, moon, blah blah aliens artifacts." lol

Here is a pic of the acutal description: http://imgur.com/oArmIYe

I am not jumping to any conclusions other than that this system has an intriguing description. The connection to the Alien Artifacts doesn't necessarily mean UA, but I do find the following interesting:

- Quarantined moon
- Kill on Sight orders if you enter moon orbit (not enforced in game)
- Research Station.. first I've seen. I didn't know they existed.
- System description, linking to Alien stuff, found in deep space... sounds similar to DBs original statement which started this whole UA thing.

In my mind, these are all neat indicators.

Currently, I am just looking at NPC ships, trying to find any significant names.

If anyone wants to provide me with a list of npc names to look for, I would appreciate that. ie: Ishmael Palin

Ayal · Nov 30, 2015

danubezoe said:
Frameshifting temporarily disables damage from the UA, do the UA feel at home in "Witch Space"? I know there is that boring explanation that is more plausible but, well it's boring

To me what you're saying sounds more like instance transfer bro cause the thargoids mechanics are not implemented in the game yet right mr brooks ( or Michael wherever you prefer

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knowles2 · Nov 30, 2015

Ayal said:
Hey what's wrong with the clans ? &#55357;&#56865;
Im am a mechwarrior player and love the clan wolf so there is nothing wrong with them &#55357;&#56865;&#55357;&#56865;&#55357;&#56865;&#55357;&#56865;

My main problem with clans is how they are implemented in a lot of games. A lot of games force you to join clans to get access to items.

Ayal · Nov 30, 2015

Mosquito2k said:
Evening!

My thinking about UAs corrosive behavior(and itself gets hurt as well?) in our ships cargo space:

-Our ship interior temp is probably 21° C, and humidity is 40% and pressure 1 atm

-Ammonia boils -33.34 ° C in 1 atm(and if UA is ammonia-based living organism, boiling probably harm it)

-Ammonia-gas will combines water quite well.. ammonia-gas becomes ammonium hydroxide..

-Ammonium Hydroxide will rapidly react with copper, brass, zinc and many alloys, especially those containing copper and corrode them. Ship electronics probably contain copper(and copper alloys) alot..

Workable theory?

Hmmmm that's not a bad idea actually good thinking dude ! But wee need a way to test it

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So horizons beta is up I'm downloading it now I'm gonna be exploring the merope moons should I share the data if I find anything or wait till it goes live ?

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By the way I was thinking bout which moon should we start first ?

danubezoe · Nov 30, 2015

Ayal said:
To me what you're saying sounds more like instance transfer bro cause the thargoids mechanics are not implemented in the game yet right mr brooks ( or Michael wherever you prefer )

I agree that this is the most likely explanation, I might not like it but I agree

clavain · Nov 30, 2015

King Sancho said:
Clavain.. I attempted to paraphrase from memory the description, and only came up with "blah blah blah quaratine, blah blah, moon, blah blah aliens artifacts." lol

Here is a pic of the acutal description: http://imgur.com/oArmIYe

I am not jumping to any conclusions other than that this system has an intriguing description. The connection to the Alien Artifacts doesn't necessarily mean UA, but I do find the following interesting:

- Quarantined moon
- Kill on Sight orders if you enter moon orbit (not enforced in game)
- Research Station.. first I've seen. I didn't know they existed.
- System description, linking to Alien stuff, found in deep space... sounds similar to DBs original statement which started this whole UA thing.

In my mind, these are all neat indicators.

Currently, I am just looking at NPC ships, trying to find any significant names.

If anyone wants to provide me with a list of npc names to look for, I would appreciate that. ie: Ishmael Palin

Thanks - it was looked into way back in Threadnought 1, and people also took UAs there in 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 without noting anything of interest. RedWizzard's plots showed that there was no real correlation between the convoy sitings and Peregrina IIRC. As no one got infected by flying through the atmosphere of the moon, we concluded the quarantine was likely a cover-up for something else, although some still thought the Cerberus plague might have originated there.

That said it is quite possible there will be something there in Horizons (similar to many other permitted systems that have had absolutely nothing in them, or nothing anyone has been able to find anyways, to date) so it is definitely worth checking out the surface of the moon.

In Out of the Darkness, the human-Thargoid research lab was in the lower depths of the gas giant IIRC, and was destroyed

Edit: Also note that "alien artifacts" may not be the same thing as "unknown artifacts". These could be Soontill Relics, or Ancient Artifacts, or something else entirely (as well as possibly the UA).

Presumably it could be just story narrative for trade in leftover bits of Thargoid tech after the station was destroyed

Ayal · Nov 30, 2015

clavain said:
Thanks - it was looked into way back in Threadnought 1, and people also took UAs there in 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 without noting anything of interest. RedWizzard's plots showed that there was no real correlation between the convoy sitings and Peregrina IIRC. As no one got infected by flying through the atmosphere of the moon, we concluded the quarantine was likely a cover-up for something else, although some still thought the Cerberus plague might have originated there.

That said it is quite possible there will be something there in Horizons (similar to many other permitted systems that have had absolutely nothing in them, or nothing anyone has been able to find anyways, to date) so it is definitely worth checking out the surface of the moon.

In Out of the Darkness, the human-Thargoid research lab was in the lower depths of the gas giant IIRC, and was destroyed

Edit: Also note that "alien artifacts" may not be the same thing as "unknown artifacts". These could be Soontill Relics, or Ancient Artifacts, or something else entirely (as well as possibly the UA).

Presumably it could be just story narrative for trade in leftover bits of Thargoid tech after the station was destroyed

Some commanders are already exploring the moons on merope so hopefully we'll find something

clavain · Nov 30, 2015

Ayal said:
So horizons beta is up I'm downloading it now I'm gonna be exploring the merope moons should I share the data if I find anything or wait till it goes live ?

Wait until it goes live and has been verified again in the actual release.

King Sancho · Nov 30, 2015

clavain said:
Thanks - it was looked into way back in Threadnought 1, and people also took UAs there in 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 without noting anything of interest. RedWizzard's plots showed that there was no real correlation between the convoy sitings and Peregrina IIRC. As no one got infected by flying through the atmosphere of the moon, we concluded the quarantine was likely a cover-up for something else, although some still thought the Cerberus plague might have originated there.

That said it is quite possible there will be something there in Horizons (similar to many other permitted systems that have had absolutely nothing in them, or nothing anyone has been able to find anyways, to date) so it is definitely worth checking out the surface of the moon.

In Out of the Darkness, the human-Thargoid research lab was in the lower depths of the gas giant IIRC, and was destroyed

Edit: Also note that "alien artifacts" may not be the same thing as "unknown artifacts". These could be Soontill Relics, or Ancient Artifacts, or something else entirely (as well as possibly the UA).

Presumably it could be just story narrative for trade in leftover bits of Thargoid tech after the station was destroyed

Yep, completely agree.

Dommarraa · Dec 1, 2015

Non Spoiler Beta Info:

Reds Shell seems to be intact, they still point at Merope
Lave II is Permit Locked, so we wont be adding any new Mad Geneticists to our ranks soon
Nebula seem to be prettier than normal
You may suffer performance issues in your SRV. My FPS is halved !
I found some "normal" materials on a Moon in Merope
Beta then crashed.

clavain · Dec 1, 2015

Dommarraa said:
Lave II is Permit Locked, so we wont be adding any new Mad Geneticists to our ranks soon

Interesting. I don't suppose Lave has a moon now?

The_Thargoid · Dec 1, 2015

Just getting kinda interested in this. downloading 2.0 as we speak ... are we assuming that any numerical sequences found in the sounds of the UA's are using human mathematics... thargoids or other alien races may not be using base 10 mathematics ... this idea is stargate based i'm totally not smart enough to know the difference

irongut · Dec 1, 2015

Kyp Shard said:
Rep button is gone so +virtual rep.

Actually - hold on.... the rep button is gone! Does this mean the forums are getting affected by UA damage now too? Who's been bring UA's to the forum??!!

Yup, forums have been damaged by UA seems FD know what fixes it though.

Clumscumpher · Dec 1, 2015

Suspect it has been asked but I will be coal if I read through this threadnought quadracttica, so I'll get it out forthwith...

Has anyone punted one through a letterbox? - There are many too-choose from.