UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

King Sancho · Dec 3, 2015

Cmd Delmonte said:
If you Fancy being a bit more organised with some back up ! http://canonn.science/2015/11/30/operation-biscuit-barrel-iv-more-word-stuff/

You should know that I am not Canonn, but an Imperial Inquisitor.. doing R&D for my beloved Empire! I work towards the day that the Empire's glory will be so large, we will all be tanned from basking.

*I checked the link.. but it led to a bad page?

b_laiskiainen · Dec 3, 2015

Which system in the pleiades was it that had the weird icy/rocky body between the two main stars?

Popov Le Magnifique · Dec 3, 2015

Derthek said:
Popov you magnificent man, you! All the rep to you, good sir ô7 take a bow

clavain · Dec 3, 2015

Jorki Rasalas said:
But since that "somebody else" has to be on the stations (within the BM) to raise the purchase price, then it almost certainly rules out Thargoids-'cos the sight of just one 'goid would ripple throughout the human bubble at the speed of light (or faster!) therefore the UA price bubble is being driven by one or more of the three major powers...QED?

<cough/>INRA<cough/>. Or CIEPers. Or both. In their "pin the blame for everything on aliens" game so that folks like Huros will go kill them.

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Derthek said:
It's a rather important GalNet, which I continually forget to mention haha

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Also, pretty sure Soontill has landable moons!

Yup, but the most important place has an atmosphere unfortunately.

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Han_Zen said:
Here is a little alternative theory, based on old and recent events and articles.

Someone is lost in space. More precisely on and airless planet. They don't know where they are and they are low on resources.

Their only reference point is that they can see the Pleiades for where they are.

All hope seem lost until they discover that there are creatures living on this planet. These creatures are capable of living in vacuum and produce energy form either minerals in the ground, radiation or both. There are plenty of these creatures.

Having access to an energy source capable of operating in vacuum and high radiation, these crafty settlers starts 'upgrading' the creatures with technology that they have. Bits and pieces from ships and probes they have with them. They may even be capable of manufacturing.

These semi-organic creations are sent out in space. Programmed to go to the Pleiades and then spread out in all directions. The hope is that someone will find them understand what is going on.

Out of rep as usual. But you forgot the whales!

Jorge · Dec 3, 2015

Guido said:
Why would the simple omission of a search bar be necessary....

Derthek said:
I know right? I've had to look for the one I'm referring to so many times, I should have saved links to all the relevant GalNets somewhere

You may already know this but if you use google you can search for words within a specific site by typing your search in this format:
site:[website address] [search terms]

So, for instance, to get the article you were looking for you can type something like:
site:community.elitedangerous.com/galnet alien different species

It's important to not leave a space between "site:" and the website address.

But I agree, a search bar is sorely missed in the Galnet News website.

Han_Zen · Dec 3, 2015

clavain said:
Out of rep as usual. But you forgot the whales!

Barnacles grow on whales ;-)

CMDR Corlas · Dec 3, 2015

All this excitement and I'm stuck in Texas on business.

Jorki Rasalas · Dec 3, 2015

EAGLE 5 said:
You Sir just won. My hat is tipped.

Thank you Commander, I return your salute o7

TFW Primus · Dec 3, 2015

CMDR Corlas said:
All this excitement and I'm stuck in Texas on business.

Be sure to pick up a tin foil cowboy hat while you are there.

Jorki Rasalas · Dec 3, 2015

King Sancho said:
If I am online, hit me up, I'll help out.

Cmndr Sanchodeltoro

Also, don't get me started on theories about those Med Convoys. After my last mission, I came back to Peregrina thinking crazy things..

IE:

I was tracking the Med convoy I mentioned earlier... bouncing between two systems. On the third leg, looking for the convoy, the only thing to pop up is a Wreckage site...
I jump in, since its the only thing up, and notice its a huge wreckage site. Ok, seen this.. not gonna get excited, won't fool me again Fdev.

Until I notice this site has wreckage parts of ONLY Vultures and a Python. (85% sure the parts had Python hull, and 90% sure they were Vulture). The very med convoy I was tracking?

I returned to base, putting this behind me, before my tinfoil hat got so hot it fused to my scalp.

Sooo, verrry interesting! Perhaps it needs an organised wing to shadow the med convoys, see who/what's destroying them, & then follow that force back to wherever (assuming it's not just pirates after the UA)

Derthek · Dec 3, 2015

Han_Zen said:
Barnacles grow on whales ;-)

I didn't doubt you for a minute, HZ

LordZoltan · Dec 3, 2015

Jorki Rasalas said:
But since that "somebody else" has to be on the stations (within the BM) to raise the purchase price, then it almost certainly rules out Thargoids-'cos the sight of just one 'goid would ripple throughout the human bubble at the speed of light (or faster!) therefore the UA price bubble is being driven by one or more of the three major powers...QED?

Exactly where my mind is going with this, yes

Cosmos · Dec 3, 2015

You know I'm getting a little bored with how long all this is dragging on.. There needs to be some progress on the matter from FD and I also find the way this is managed seems like a wild goose chase. We really shouldn't be having to micro examine the tiniest little detail like we are.. Its just like the hunt for the mirage in FFE. :/

edit: How long has this nonsense been going on? six months?

When things go ARG it says one thing to me - the developers haven't created enough in game content. We are all surely being strung along.

relayer · Dec 3, 2015

Lost humans in deep space?
They may not be our brothers...

'The Crime and the Glory of Commander Suzdal' - Cordwainer Smith

^^^^^^ worth your time to read. You'll love me for it.

Elsewise...

Why would the Thargoids use Morse? We came into contact with them before; we could talk to them before; we surely didn't use Morse! No, I suspect the UAs have something human about them. If you wanted to get a message out to another civilization with no common vocabulary or linguistics, you'd use science: something like the Periodic Table of Elements, which would be common knowledge to an advanced civilization. There's no "mistranslation" of atomic numbers. I would venture that the Thargoids have no knowledge of an obscure human language/code like Morse.

Given that the sleeper ships/generational ships left Earth long ago, Morse seems to me to connote a human source. They aren't trying to contact another civilization; they are trying to contact humans...

Szyslak22 · Dec 3, 2015

Popov Le Magnifique said:
I didn't follow the Cerberus Plague, could somebody tell me how the cure (Heike Tea) was found?

I didn't see anyone answer you, so I thought I'd chime in as a Bast Vet. No one found the cure for Cerberus in game. Once a CG was finally completed to halt the spread of the plague (Bast), FDev put up another community goal that said to bring the Heike Tea to Bast to cure as many people as possible. So basically it was all FDev's story line. The advancement of the story line came when everyone banded together and tried to complete one CG (out of multiple) by bringing medicines to Bast.

They were waiting for us to join together as a community and complete one out of what seemed to be 3 impossible CGs. There was no hint from FDev that this is what we were supposed to do, or that it would lead to a "Cure" CG. The rare that cured the plague could very well have been triggered by it's distance to the system where the medicine CG was completed. They might have had many different rare CGs queued up depending on which system advanced the story line.

Gated content based on player activity. Seems familiar, right?

clavain · Dec 3, 2015

Cosmos said:
You know I'm getting a little bored with how long all this is dragging on.. There needs to be some progress on the matter from FD and I also find the way this is managed seems like a wild goose chase. We really shouldn't be having to micro examine the tiniest little detail like we are.. Its just like the hunt for the mirage in FFE. :/

edit: How long has this nonsense been going on? six months? When things go ARG it says one thing to me - the developers haven't created enough in game content. We are all surely being strung along.

See! It's not just me.

BTW can barnacles survive in a vacuum?

Han_Zen · Dec 3, 2015

Derthek said:
I didn't doubt you for a minute, HZ

You are to kind

Here is some real science on metal based life: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20906-life-like-cells-are-made-of-metal/

clavain · Dec 3, 2015

Something else that has been bothering me. Why Merope?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merope_(star)

What is so special about it compared to any other star in the Pleiades?

It is not the brightest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#Brightest_stars

It is not the most obvious or central in terms of the layout of that cluster, unless you count furthest "south" as somehow distinguishing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#/media/File:M45map.jpg

As 23 Tauri, it is not the most obvious feature of Taurus (nor are the Pleiades themselves really): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#/media/File:Pleiades-Taurus-Stellarium.png

The Merope Nebula is not even in ED: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_1435 and http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-NGC-1435.htm and https://www.naic.edu/~gibson/pleiades/

It is not even the most important or main "character" of the mythos: https://www.naic.edu/~gibson/pleiades/pleiades_myth.html

Although dammit it certainly feels like all we are doing is rolling boulders uphill to watch them roll down again so we can do it all over, again and again.

So either there is something bloody obvious we are missing, or there is nothing at all to find until the next morsel of UA content is released. The only obvious Pleiades meme is that it is a constant figure in early cultural folklore because of the visibility of the cluster with the naked eye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_in_folklore_and_literature

The only other known in-lore connection is the FFE infamous crashed Thargoid vessel at Pleione, but as we know that specific location in the system is not the same any more in ED.

Edit: Oh, and despite our best and most silly efforts, we have been unable to connect any of the markings on the UA to the Pleiades, Taurus or Merope - at least in any satisfactory and accepted manner.

EAGLE 5 · Dec 3, 2015

clavain said:
Something else that has been bothering me. Why Merope?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merope_(star)

What is so special about it compared to any other star in the Pleiades?

It is not the brightest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#Brightest_stars

It is not the most obvious or central in terms of the layout of that cluster, unless you count furthest "south" as somehow distinguishing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#/media/File:M45map.jpg

As 23 Tauri, it is not the most obvious feature of Taurus (nor are the Pleiades themselves really): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#/media/File:Pleiades-Taurus-Stellarium.png

The Merope Nebula is not even in ED: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_1435 and http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-NGC-1435.htm and https://www.naic.edu/~gibson/pleiades/

It is not even the most important or main "character" of the mythos: https://www.naic.edu/~gibson/pleiades/pleiades_myth.html

Although dammit it certainly feels like all we are doing is rolling boulders uphill to watch them roll down again so we can do it all over, again and again.

So either there is something bloody obvious we are missing, or there is nothing at all to find until the next morsel of UA content is released. The only obvious Pleiades meme is that it is a constant figure in early cultural folklore because of the visibility of the cluster with the naked eye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_in_folklore_and_literature

The only other known in-lore connection is the FFE infamous crashed Thargoid vessel at Pleione, but as we know that specific location in the system is not the same any more in ED.

Switch Kirk with Brookes and you have the UA's mystery in a nutshell: http://captainjamestgod.ytmnd.com/

Derthek · Dec 3, 2015

If I remember correctly Merope is the oldest star in the Pleiades, according to the ingame GalMap on the system info page. What that means, or how that effects the mystery, I cannot say.