Just read the latest list. Still no sign of my lucky 100
UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn
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Not necessarily. I think it's a mistake to assume that FD are only running one story, one mystery, and therefore everything is related to the UA. We have no evidence that the UA is related to Spaceship One's disappearance, let alone the rest of "The Missing". "The Missing" isn't even a single mystery, it's a catch-all term for all of these sorts of stories. Some of them will be related, but others will not.
IMO what Michael is saying is keep an eye out. Some of these missing ships/people might be found in the near future. I'm sure some of them will turn up on planets now that we can visit.
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24th century means 2301-2400. We're in the 21st century now.
He already told us: we can stop it. That's everything we needed to know.
If we stop it, the Station will be then repaired, as the "issue" will not be affecting them anymore.
No. He very specifically said we can "stop it spreading". He said nothing about curing currently infected stations. I think his wording is probably very deliberate and quite important.
In my mind, if we stop the spread, we cure the stations: it's two faces of the same coin.
I hope we'll not start analyzing his words now, please.
The only way to stop the spread is to stop the UA damage: we cannot do anything to stop people from selling UAs.
You don't want to analyse his words? So we just assume whatever meaning suits us and go with it? That is not scientific.
You say that stopping the spread will cure the stations. What are you basing that on (i.e. what's your reasoning)?
We certainly could try to stop people selling them. It's unlikely to be effective, but it's not impossible.
Edit: nevermind, I see he's clarified (making my point correct but redundant
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The powerplay summaries are written by a player, aren't they? Maybe they were busy that week?
There have been actual stories (as opposed to the automatically generated stories) that haven't made it to the website. I can't remember exactly which story I'm think of, but it was something we were interested in a while back (probably thread 1 times).
On the latest "technical troubles" story, I occasionally collate all the Galnet stories into a text file so I can search easily and I have noticed duplicated stories before. I'm reluctant to assume that this case has special significance. Perhaps if it's duplicated in game.
IMO, "The Missing" is floating the idea that, around the universe, you'll find colonies on planets well and truly outside the bubble. You won't be able to land at them or anything, but you'll at the very least be able to attack them (just like other colonies). At the very least, the RNG'ed encounters on uninhabited planets sometimes involve small structures built on planets. "The Missing" gives legitimacy to the question a lot of people will ask which is "I'm 10,000LY away from the bubble. Why is there a sentry turret, bunker and a data point here?"
For those who haven't checked out the Horizons Beta, it's interesting, since as well as Obsidian Orbital, there's a planetary colony on one of the, well, planets. It's nothing unusual though.
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The bubble is less than 300 Ly in radius, 894 Ly is well beyond the bubble. But even if they were in the bubble it wouldn't really help if we're looking for a crashed ship that appears as a POI. There are something like 70,000 systems in the bubble (20,000 inhabited). Those systems probably average more than 5 bodies that can be landed on. Many of those bodies are comparable to Earth in terms of size and we're exploring them via short range surface scans and SRVs capable of not much more than 100 km/h. So it's pretty much impossible to search the surface of all planets systematically. The only way we'll find these things is either blind luck or if they are visible from further away than typical POIs.
If there's a pattern, it's very well hidden...
You all can use the awesome http://ed-map.eu/, disable the bubbles, and press SHIFT to activate the distance plotter, that traces lines between selected systems.
If you find a pattern, I'll send a signed artwork from my personal desk...
Are there any trade routes between infected stations? Because usually T ships doing the transporting of goods.
With the station shutting down
Is there any pattern to the Economy type?
If it is UAs but some test stations are not suffering the failures, then there should be a common link between the ones that do fail.
If it isn't the UA's still; worth looking for a common link.
For example
Was the first one an exporter of computer components and the other stations on the trade routes that import them.
Is there any pattern to the Economy type?
If it is UAs but some test stations are not suffering the failures, then there should be a common link between the ones that do fail.
If it isn't the UA's still; worth looking for a common link.
For example
Was the first one an exporter of computer components and the other stations on the trade routes that import them.
I think that "Generations Ships" were sent only toward the center of the galaxy. So the search area is more of a cone (height - Sol, base - an area of 900 light years from Sol)
Wouldn't the Generation Ships be subject to time dilation? Different accelerating reference frames... Then the folk who stayed back home in Sol "cheated" and and caught up in terms of distance. Their time would be completely off, though.
Relativity Theory was never really my strong point and I had a really rough night, so maybe another psycisist can chime in?
Relativity Theory was never really my strong point and I had a really rough night, so maybe another psycisist can chime in?
As they travelled closer to the Speed of Light, their time frame extended. If they get close to the speed of light, we would meet the original occupants that boarded Earth at the start of their trip and they would have only aged a short time. All their relatives on Earth would be long dead.
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So do we keep the "The Missing" topic inside this threadnaught as well?
I think it is a separate mystery, but an intriguing one. I saw on twitter, that Drew is already preparing an info write-up on generation ships, like he did with the Thargoids. I'm impatently waiting for that. With a collection of information, we can estimate the area where they could be found.
In addition, I'm glad we have commanders joining the Distand Worlds expedition. I believe there is a strong possibility for them to find some interesting things out there.
And who knows, everything is possible. Maybe a generation ship has still an active colony far out. Maybe they made contact with alien races. Maybe alien races also had generation ships flying towards us...
I think it is a separate mystery, but an intriguing one. I saw on twitter, that Drew is already preparing an info write-up on generation ships, like he did with the Thargoids. I'm impatently waiting for that. With a collection of information, we can estimate the area where they could be found.
In addition, I'm glad we have commanders joining the Distand Worlds expedition. I believe there is a strong possibility for them to find some interesting things out there.
And who knows, everything is possible. Maybe a generation ship has still an active colony far out. Maybe they made contact with alien races. Maybe alien races also had generation ships flying towards us...
Too much good stuff from RedWizzard to call out here - agree with everything he's said above ^^^
So who's going to volunteer to land an SRV on top of the Christmas tree & be the Christmas Fairy?
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More likely tied into the call for more exploration, and Horizons materials improving FSD jump ranges
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No no no... 5 days until we get a new set of analytical tools, what we do with them is (should be) science!
Sorry - who exactly is issuing KOS orders on behalf of the Canonn?
The Canonn will not, and has not, issued KOS orders to anyone for any reason - that's not what we're about.
Please - if you, or anyone else, has made that announcement on 'behalf of the Canonn' then I personally ask you to remove it or rewrite it.
We do not and cannot control the movement of UAs, and engaging in PvP over it is absolutely pointless, unless you just want to get labeled as a griefer. To break everyone's 'immersion' for a second (urgh!), remember:
Trading affects the BGS + stock levels in private groups and in open - if UA sales lead to shutdowns, then they could be being done in a PG, entirely untouchable by anyone.
Issuing a KOS order is only 'valid' (but still wrong) if everyone always played open, but they don't.
You can't infiltrate every private group - so the whole idea is pointless and nothing more than trying to windmill into a bun fight with one hand tied behind your back.
Our request to stop trading via Galnet was based on prudence and that it fit with our group's ethos, not for one second did we actually expect CMDRs to 'obey' us - the whole thing was meant to be a suggestion. People still choose their own path with that - some might agree, some might not.
If someone shoots me, I'll shoot then back (and probably lose - ask a CMDR from the other night - he knows who he is
) but I for one certainly have no interest in engaging in PvP just because someone has a UA in their hold. That's militia behaviour - and that's not Canonn.Now, I'm not 'the group' - but I think most people are going to agree on this.
So, please, rescind that order - or at least remove all association to us with it, because we do not support it at all.
I will happily exclude anyone from the Canonn site found to be engaging in this and broadcasting it as 'policy'.
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What's not sensible about tea? Are you trying to start a TEA flame war? (I'm a coffee drinker - perhaps that's the answer this time?
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No. He very specifically said we can "stop it spreading". He said nothing about curing currently infected stations. I think his wording is probably very deliberate and quite important.
You don't want to analyse his words? So we just assume whatever meaning suits us and go with it? That is not scientific.
You say that stopping the spread will cure the stations. What are you basing that on (i.e. what's your reasoning)?
We certainly could try to stop people selling them. It's unlikely to be effective, but it's not impossible.
Edit: nevermind, I see he's clarified (making my point correct but redundant
You're right
It seems this time I was wrong: I'm human after all, I was hoping so much to be an AI
BTW, closing the Black Markets doesn't seem a viable option to me: to really stop the spread we should close all the Black Markets in all the stations, around all the Bubble. Because just closing the BN in the affected station could be not enough at all, being people capable to sell UA anywhere else.
There must be another way, right?
EDIT: not mentioning the definitive end of Piracy
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