UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

[madbilly]

I couldn't find mention of this anywhere else on the web or forums: The Ant Hill Mob have a base on Maia B 1 D, called Pavlou Keep. I looked around a bit but didn't find anything. I didn't do a destructive search, I don't know if that would reveal something?

TAHM are definitely pirates, they attacked me in a USS! However they also turned up as the system defence force so it was a bit confusing! Around Maia B1 I was getting buzzed by an Imperial Eagle in supercruise but no interdiction.

 

[rizal72]

You don't need the surface scanner to get the name of the body.

If I remember well, if you have NO scanner equipped, you cannot resolve the name of a body, just undefined.
You need a Basic Discovery Scanner at least. He said he had no scanner at all.
So, a bug, or the UA? Needs further testing with a ship with no scanners equipped, and a completely unknown system.

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I couldn't find mention of this anywhere else on the web or forums: The Ant Hill Mob have a base on Maia B 1 D, called Pavlou Keep. I looked around a bit but didn't find anything. I didn't do a destructive search, I don't know if that would reveal something?

TAHM are definitely pirates, they attacked me in a USS! However they also turned up as the system defence force so it was a bit confusing! Around Maia B1 I was getting buzzed by an Imperial Eagle in supercruise but no interdiction.

I'm there right now. Yes there is a nice ground base.

 

[Julio Montega]

If I remember well, if you have NO scanner equipped, you cannot resolve the name of a body, just undefined.
You need a Basic Discovery Scanner at least. He said he had no scanner at all.
So, a bug, or the UA? Needs further testing with a ship with no scanners equipped, and a completely unknown system.

To reevaluate the situation here are the steps i made to reproduce the outcome:

- Went on the course to maia
- picked up an UA on the way in an arietis system
- no scanners equipped, only basic sensors a-rated, AFMU, planetary approach suite and Interdictor
- no planetary hangar
- ship FGS
- went to Obsidian Orbital
- bought system data on Merope, planets still were named "Unknown"
- went to Merope, UA in cargo bay
- went close to unknown body, resolving to Merope 3B with a long scan at ~10Ls
- went to Maia, checked the bodies around Obsidian Orbital
- have no system data on maia
- names did resolve there aswell, below ~20Ls depending on body type and size

 

[Popov Le Magnifique]

Put the trailer into premiere to get a better look at the barnacle shot. Unfortunately compression gives us a lot of artifacts (NO PUN INTENDED) so this is the best I can get for now.

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Based on what I see and my opinion (most of which has already been stated by others) :
- Soil color is very light / sandy brown
- Same illuminated "honeycomb" as the UA's on the structure
- Structure has a "foam" look - meta-alloy construction?
- Doesn't look to be located inside of a canyon
- Background seems to be blue in hue. Color graded the clip to bring white-balance back to something somewhat balanced. Again, compression limits us a ton on what we can pull out of the shadows - total loss of detail in most of it. Clip just before this shows illumination from a red nebula, this one either has no illumination, or possibly a blue nebula? You can also tell there's rolling hills in the background, and no stars visible. Could this be out in the dark area CMDR's were attempting to reach earlier in the year? With the new FSD injections, crossing that void may not be as difficult as before.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say that in my opinion, wherever this object is, it's wayyyy out there. Also going to state that I think this object is massive, and we are potentially only seeing one "foot" of the structure. I'm gonna guess that whatever the structure is, I think we *could* be able to spot it from orbital cruise

Also, gonna agree that this is 100% not in Merope. But what is still so special about Merope that the UA's all point there? WE MUST GO DEEPER!


*edit* here's a still of the crashed t9 for good measure.
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Noticed it looks like a ship bone-yard out there. The structure on the right looks like a wing-tip of a federal drop/assault/gun ship? Structure on the left foreground looks like a piece of a hull, and the object in the back looks like another downed ship.

Great post, can't rep you just yet, because of the mobile theme. I agree, I doubt the temple is in Merope. The FSD Injection might be helpful to reach the lizard people from...Andromeda(e). The name (Andromedae) is interesting (not procedurally generated) and it's quite hard to reach if you're not in an ExploConda. Does anyone know if there are landable planets there? I thought about going there myself, but having no Internet at home, I'll have to postpone my expedition.

So if you guys are interested in having a look, help yourselves. For biscuits!

 

[Julio Montega]

*tinfoilhattery*
Hmm.. thinking about Merope, one entry in wikipedia states she was mother to Daidalos,
the engineering genius.
Who set stage to Ariadne, a daughter of Helios.
Now Daidalos had a son, Ikarus, who went to close to the sun and crashed.

Totally gonna check out the sun of Merope again.

 

[rizal72]

To reevaluate the situation here are the steps i made to reproduce the outcome:

- Went on the course to maia
- picked up an UA on the way in an arietis system
- no scanners equipped, only basic sensors a-rated, AFMU, planetary approach suite and Interdictor
- no planetary hangar
- ship FGS
- went to Obsidian Orbital
- bought system data on Merope, planets still were named "Unknown"
- went to Merope, UA in cargo bay
- went close to unknown body, resolving to Merope 3B with a long scan at ~10Ls
- went to Maia, checked the bodies around Obsidian Orbital
- have no system data on maia
- names did resolve there aswell, below ~20Ls depending on body type and size

Now you should do the same, but without an UA.
Easy.

 

[Vasious]

Negatory, i didn't scout for too long though.
Will give it another shot tomorrow.

So you can confirm that without UA and with discovery scanners deactivated
you can resolve a planet's name.
Hmm, maybe let us try to completely remove the d-scanner and have no UA fitted.
Might be a bug, having the d-scanner only be required to be present.

What i can tell you, is that the scan of the planet sounded a ot like the older discovery scanner sound, mixed with some UA snarls.
I will try to set up shadowplay for tomorrow and go test out wreckages with the UA deployed aswell.

You dont ned a discovery scanner to complete a level 2 scan, so long as you can target the celetial object you can scan it,
This has been the normal SOP since the discovery system was in place.
Winging up is the best example of how this can work, ship A sends out the ping with the discovery scanner, ship A & B received the new contacts, both ships can then level 2 scan (or level 3 with Detailed surfaces scanner)

Any Unknown Planet can be scanned.
The Discovery scanner's place is to added them to the system map as a unknown celestial object - ie discovering it.
The ship can level 2 scan any unknown celestial object with out any other equipment, discovery scanner or otherwise
Detail surface scanner provides a more detialed level 3 scan.

this in not something unqiue to merope or UA or anthing of the sort.
It is the Dicsover scanner than finds unknonw celestial objects and the ships on board system scans then, the Detialed surface scanner is an upgrade suite to the shipboard scanners not the discovery scanners

 

[bitstorm]

FWIW I'm taking a jaunt out to Trifid of the North again (UA-less).

Stopping off at nebulas on the way, I'm gonna take rock samples at various points and keep an eye out for anything that looks like it might not be entirely natural. =p

Found a couple of POIs at California HW-W C1-7, just standard human built structures though.

Good hunting CMDRs!

 

[Julio Montega]

Now you should do the same, but without an UA.
Easy.

Will do after i did my tests.
It quite eats up money to have it in my bay

You dont ned a discovery scanner to complete a level 2 scan, so long as you can target the celetial object you can scan it,
This has been the normal SOP since the discovery system was in place.
Winging up is the best example of how this can work, ship A sends out the ping with the discovery scanner, ship A & B received the new contacts, both ships can then level 2 scan (or level 3 with Detailed surfaces scanner)

Hmm i can't remember any point in time from 1.0 to 1.4,
where i was able to simply go and target an unknown body to have it's name resolved.
Will try it out tomorrow.
Did i miss a change?

 

[Kalearne]

Has anyone tried triggering technical malfunctions at planet side black markets yet. Someething i might try between HIP 18987 (pickup point) and ngalia ( planet side black market cant remmeber which one but there is one on planet 1)

Don't give them a planet!!!
Maybe that's what that temple structure is, an infested outpost

 

[fyo]

Bear with me for a moment: now that is possible to use Heat Sinks in SC, (because you know it's possible right?)

Ahhh, so THAT'S where my heat sinks went. I'll have to be more careful in the future.

 

[Hoboner]

Looking at this still frame again, the pods/buds on the "pillars" look like they are blossoming to me. Whatever these things are, I think it's safe to say they are growing and alive rather than being just some sort of mineral deposits on rocks. The structure itself also looks like it could be growing from top to bottom (if it's not a constructed object) gaining height by growing/expanding from the ground level. The fact that the bottom is porous, getting more solid as it reaches the next "levels" of growth makes me think it's possibly growing in this way.

 

[rote1]

Long time reader, first time poster.
Has anyone ever dropped an UA for a NPC pirate to pick up?
Maybe something interesting happens

 

[rizal72]

Long time reader, first time poster.
Has anyone ever dropped an UA for a NPC pirate to pick up?
Maybe something interesting happens

Yes. So many times. Even outside a station.
They simply scoop it up, and then fly away. Without even saying thanks.

 

[rote1]

Yes. So many times. Even outside a station.
They simply scoop it up, and then fly away. Without even saying thanks.

Damn it, was hoping for a fun result. Thanks for the quick reply. I shall be following this thread with great interest, outstanding work from you guys (and girls, presumably)

 

[RedWizzard]

Someone mentioned that answers/hints/clue was 'before out eyes' or something like that. The -eye- missions in beta alluded to bits of literature. Merope Gaunt is a character in harry potter, noted because her eyes look in opposite directions. Well, opposite of Taurus from sol, is Piscis (ish) which contains the star Fomalhaut. Fomalhaut has a debris field that looks like an eye. I'm going to check it out, just for personal interest. Might as well let you all know in case you smart people see a similar connection somewhere.

This "right in front of our eyes" thing has been bought up anecdotally at least three times recently. Does anyone know the source of that statement? I'm concerned it might be a misinterpretation of comments from a mod (I think it was Kerrash) that we were "overthinking it" very early on, and now it's being accepted as fact/a clue/official word without reasonable justification.

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can someone link me to the original post where FD said it was "right before our eyes" or "right in front of us" or whatever it was? I've seen many different mentions of that "clue," if it was one.

Glad I'm not the only one with reservations about this!

 

[Allant Doran]

So I'm floating about in and around Maia, scanning in my Anaconda. If anyone knows anything of interest in the Pleiades I can go see that relates to the UAs/Barnacles/ Horizons Trailer Alien Temple thingies, let me know. I'll have a gander and see what I can see

 

[knowles2]

I'm pretty sure only Brookes and the programmers who work directly on the UA knows exactly how the UA storyline is going to play out,, I'm not trusting anything from anyone else. An looking through his forum posts he made no such comments.

I somehow doubt he would give us such a direct clue anyway. Not in the first few days of Horizon, if we get no where by January/February may be he will chuck us a bone but even then it probably be a Galnet post from our friend Mr Palin, where everyone can see it rather than a post on the Forum.

 

[Vasious]

I dont know if this has come up yet, but

if we are looking for eerie green glowing stuff, makes more sense to make fly bys on the night side, Green should be quite distinct.

 

[clavain]

This "right in front of our eyes" thing has been bought up anecdotally at least three times recently. Does anyone know the source of that statement? I'm concerned it might be a misinterpretation of comments from a mod (I think it was Kerrash) that we were "overthinking it" very early on, and now it's being accepted as fact/a clue/official word without reasonable justification.

Yes. Kerrash I think. And I am too damn'd lazy to go back and find it. So I blame Kerrash anyways. It's easier that way.