UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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@Derthek, LordZoltan about the T-Ships bug:

if you remeber, I sent a PM to Zac informing him of the T-ships unique behavior, asking if it was a bug, and he replied:

"Sadly I'm going to play this one close to my chest. It may or it may not be a bug. Either way I'm sure that over time more news and information will follow."

Full stop.
 
It would have been good if he had let us know when the question was first asked - not weeks or months later. I suppose that is an improvement (in FD's view anyways) on not answering at all, as with the Voyagers.

True would have been nice to know for sure .... But it seemed like a pretty obvious bug ... And even if we assume it wasn't... It didn't tell us anything useful .. So I find it a little laughable that people are getting all torn up about this
 
@Derthek, LordZoltan about the T-Ships bug:

if you remeber, I sent a PM to Zac informing him of the T-ships unique behavior, asking if it was a bug, and he replied:

"Sadly I'm going to play this one close to my chest. It may or it may not be a bug. Either way I'm sure that over time more news and information will follow."

Full stop.

Thanks Rizal. Thank you.
 
@Derthek, LordZoltan about the T-Ships bug:

if you remeber, I sent a PM to Zac informing him of the T-ships unique behavior, asking if it was a bug, and he replied:

"Sadly I'm going to play this one close to my chest. It may or it may not be a bug. Either way I'm sure that over time more news and information will follow."

Full stop.
Ah yes. Frontier being [redacted] as usual.
 
So I went to Merope to have a poke around and saw a CMDR who sent me coordinates for either Merope 1B or Merope 1A followed by "the magic item :)". Ive No idea if hes on a wind-up, trying to lead a novice on a wild-goose chase. I went to 1B to find the location but my game crashed and I cant get back on :(

-17.3739 -131.6169 incase anyone there fancies a look.

Thanks, please if someone could check: I turned off my PC five minutes ago, time to go to bed :(
 
So frustrating. An hour of flying round the system finding nothing. Finally something interesting, even if it is just a wind up. I get into orbit and boom! crash -_-
 
Thanks, please if someone could check: I turned off my PC five minutes ago, time to go to bed :(

Take a look at my post...

UA dropped on Merope 2D,
unrecoverable due to terrain.

Coords:
17.9632°
-131.7672°
23:1O GMT+1 17th dec 2O15
UA just destroyed itself.

Edit:
I hate the low altitude mechanics of Horizons.
My ship is doing the weird-8-gimbal move at O.2 Gs....

Edit2:

UA did not attach to asteroid.
UA did nothing special close to Merope's sun.
UA did not attach to rocky planet Merope 2D.
No shipwrecks found.

See any similarities?
If you find something, i claim bad luck on my part.
 
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So I went to Merope to have a poke around and saw a CMDR who sent me coordinates for either Merope 1B or Merope 1A followed by "the magic item :)". Ive No idea if hes on a wind-up, trying to lead a novice on a wild-goose chase. I went to 1B to find the location but my game crashed and I cant get back on :(

-17.3739 -131.6169 incase anyone there fancies a look.

Nothing at these coordinates on Merope 1A or 1B
 
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While I don't agree with exactly what's been said here (esp bits directed at MB), I do agree with the sentiment.

I'm about ready to just drop everything related to UAs and just "do something else", which is hard, but while I can't prove a "general case", I've at least proven to myself that *I* have zero agency in the events playing out before us, and with that in mind it's kinda pointless for me to try and pursue anything in regards to the UA. Palin's CG is frankly just the icing on the cake for me. To date:

- My article to announce the morse discovery was ignored (yes, I did relate it to Patreus which probably wasn't great, but lets face it, as a Patreus pledge and a major contributor to the morse discovery, why wouldn't I do that?)
- Despite overwhelming evidence that UA's are the cause of station failures, my covert run of 200 UAs to a single station achieved nothing.
- My overt announcement of where I sold the 200 UA's achieved nothing
- My CG to collect 10,000-200,000 UAs, while acknowledged as received (Thanks Zac A :) ), has not resulted in anything further.

What annoys me the most about Palin's CG is that this is a scientist who, given how quickly he seems to be moving around, is a rather small entity. I consider Sitakapa Empire League to be an "affiliate" minor faction of the Sitakapan Expeditionary Forces (My faction). Together they own two systems, 8 stations, and have holdings in half a dozen other systems. SEF is the ruling body, and is a morally ambiguous dictatorship. They have the resources and mentality (and since I'm central to the SEF, the ambition) to research UAs through a CG. They'd happily risk civilian lives to achieve this, and would put down dissenters. But instead, nope, lets cart shelters back and forth for a snailpace scientist.

I kinda saw this coming waaaay back when Community news and Player Factions were first mentioned. This didn't sound like agency to carve out your own story, it just sounded a bit like a popularity contest. I imagine FD must be looking at my suggestions in the same way I looked at some friends I dungeon-mastered for. I presented an elaborate mechanical device which they needed to "figure out" in order to get a key and proceed. For the purposes of the scenario and maintaining "canon", it was not a magical device. I put a lot of thought and effort into how they could interact with this thing, but what I didn't think of was their warrior going hulk-smash on the device, pick the key up and use it. But I let them, because in other scenarios I had been presented similar suggestions and "pretended they weren't serious" and tried to hint them towards the "proper way forward", and this very quickly lead to them being disenfranchised with the story I was telling, and their agency in it.

FD have clearly intended to demonstrate these things are dangerous. What I get the feeling they didn't anticipate was players wanting to face that danger head-on and do dangerous things with them, whether it's out of game with CG/galnet submissions, or in-game literally transporting incredibly dangerous amounts of these goods intentionally. This is clearly not popular with FD's vision of this story, and that's fine, it's fundamentally their game to do with what they will, but ignoring these specific going-ons basically strips me of any agency in this plot whatsoever... and I'd rather not participate in something where my participation or lack thereof achieves the same outcome.

I hope someone in staff reads this, not so they run back going "Oh sorry Jmanis, we were wrong, have your CGs and Galnet articles", but to just realise that if you're going to tell an interactive story, you need to allow interactions with it.

At least we can turn Slaves into Master Chef's though...
 
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Okay, so I know what I'll be doing for the next 2 weeks. Hauling Evacuation Shelters while sourcing materials for jumponium. I might even go bounty hunter as well.
In the 2 weeks after that I'll be sourcing more materials for jumponium and getting my Anaconda ready for Distant Worlds.
In the middle of January, I'll be heading out for the Far Rim with a couple of hundred other Cmdrs struck by the wanderlust bug.

What this means is there will be very little time for anything UA related for the next 6 months unless something supremely important happens.
I'm not saying "I'm out". I'm saying that my game time is limited and I would rather use it to do something that is personally satisfying.
 
I've spent a lot of time on Merope 5C .. something odd about this moon that would knock it 75% off its orbital inclination... it wouldn't be naturally occurring.. something would have had to pass thru the system or a collision to knock it off its orbit like this.

So far only a federation beacon with a data point..

Actually found a base buried in the side of a mountain with defense turrets.. but all human so far :)
 
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Just letting you know that, while I do NOT support the abrasiveness of your post or personal attacks on MBrookes, I do agree with your over all sentiment.
The pacing in this particular thread is agonizingly slow. The community involvement has been minimal, and very picky choosy. Kind of like do only what we want you to do.
The Canonn offers Palin the freedom and space to do his research. He refuses. Why? Cause Micheal(or whoever his author is) doesn't want him to.
He is essentially author insert(the author creates a character to do his bidding), which I hate when not used ironically and especially when used on major characters.

Elite has amazing scope and depth, but very little substance. The UA adds unique substance to an otherwise pretty bland game, but it hasn't changed much since 1.2.
It was a reason to play for some people. I love Elites mechanics and gameplay, but there isn't much of a reason to do anything, aside from acquiring credits. But I'm content with the Diamondback explorer, so I don't need credits. And PP isn't for me.
Horizons adds substance, but it also adds more scope and gameplay, therefore compensating for all the substance it adds and then some.

What Elite needs is more UA-like content. These obviously don't have to be mysteries or even related to exploration gameplay, but they need add flavour and substance to the experience. I'm holding out that Loot and Crafting will add a little substance. A little personal gameplay reason for doing something.
 
On the scanner - do you mean the sound the scanner makes for different materials? Are you saying it makes the same sound as your ship does, or crashed ships, canisters etc, i.e. metal stuff?

Because I'm planning to listen to a UA from the buggy to find out exactly that, and you could save me the bother.

I checked when I called my ship (UA on the ground) but did not know that the ship has another UA.
On the wave scanner ship and UA have the same visual indicators and sounds. Probably because of the second UA inside the ship.
I'm going to do a lot of tests later today (seven hours later).
 
I'm sorry that I raise this question (again!), But I want everything to be crystal clear.

UA does not draw the T-ships (if thrown by them) - it's a bug.
But!

Is this a bug of the game? Or is it a bug of UA(Intentional)?
 
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HELLO, fellow tin foils! The name is CMDR Marco Armstrong, and I am ready to join the tin foils!

Most of the help I provide will be on this forum and the Canonn website I am joining up with now. I am good with audio engineering, astrophysics, and making WAGS.

I will read this thread with my cereal and see how I can help.

I love your work and dedication so far, and hpoe to help move the thread forward, and discover what will happen next.

Well, I better finish putting up this sign.
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