Have you purchased Horizons
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Achilles7
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Sorry?! *rubs eyes*
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Firstly, may I commend your prioritising skills..having teeth is definitely more important than getting the Elite expansion!
No need to buy now as its part of my Kickstarter package although I definitely would have bought it if I didn't already have it.
While I don't like quite a few aspects of the game, it's certainly been worth my investment and I clearly like it on balance after seeing the new 'Estimated time in game statistic'... 6W, 1D 23H 19m or over 1000 hours! its starting to encroach on my X2/X3 hours and its only been out for a year!
While I don't like quite a few aspects of the game, it's certainly been worth my investment and I clearly like it on balance after seeing the new 'Estimated time in game statistic'... 6W, 1D 23H 19m or over 1000 hours! its starting to encroach on my X2/X3 hours and its only been out for a year!
As above, in nearly 35 years of gaming on C64 Amiga and now Pc I have never found a game that's 100% perfect or that I 100% love but as long as it entertains me in the hours I have spare its a good game, and Elite before and now after Horizons does that for me.
As the OP I would say the admin adding the last choices is a bit misleading because if you paid for a lifetime expansion pass then you have purchased Horizons but really the idea of the poll was to get a very rough idea of uptake and some feedback both positive and negative so I can see why they might of felt adding that option would help.
Someone posted they could only make one choice but the poll was designed to allow for two selections as the some overlap (and/or) options.
My takeaway from the responses so far is that there has been pretty good uptake (outside of kickstarter and expansion pass) but that figure will be skewed a little as people still engaged enough to visit the forum regularly and vote are more likely to have made the purchase IMO.
Second the majority that have purchased are happy with the product and direction it is being taken in but there is also a significant minority that are not satisfied as yet though many of those are in wait and see mode as this a 1 year development cycle.
I think therefore it is important to ED's future that they deliver on this first expansion and do not make the same mistakes as they did with the initial launch - namely throw in disconnected mini games and ignore building engaging content that is a part of a dynamic and persistent universe.
In that regard we should ask questions such as, "When does a point of interest become uninteresting?"
Someone posted they could only make one choice but the poll was designed to allow for two selections as the some overlap (and/or) options.
My takeaway from the responses so far is that there has been pretty good uptake (outside of kickstarter and expansion pass) but that figure will be skewed a little as people still engaged enough to visit the forum regularly and vote are more likely to have made the purchase IMO.
Second the majority that have purchased are happy with the product and direction it is being taken in but there is also a significant minority that are not satisfied as yet though many of those are in wait and see mode as this a 1 year development cycle.
I think therefore it is important to ED's future that they deliver on this first expansion and do not make the same mistakes as they did with the initial launch - namely throw in disconnected mini games and ignore building engaging content that is a part of a dynamic and persistent universe.
In that regard we should ask questions such as, "When does a point of interest become uninteresting?"
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Wellington
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What has gouging customers, inflated prices and deliberately vague descriptions of upcoming "content" got to do with development??? Please keep your fanboyism under control, there is no real way to explain away the way FD have behaved regarding horizons and future "content" other than greed/intent.
He is entitled to his comments, as are you. Personally I don't think the price is inflated, as for greed they are a business, and as with most businesses they have a profit margin to fulfil, and we are all entitled to either agree with their pricing policy and buy the expansion, or disagree with it and not buy it.
Ditto, bought the LEP in the pre-Horizons period so possibly paid more for the whole package than someone who bought in at day 1 but to my mind that point is irrelevant (the choice was a personal VFM decision pure and simple - although it was not a simple just buy it situation for me).
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The current level of functionality and features added by Horizons is roughly what I personally expected at release and the level of functionality purported to be added as part of Horizons over the next year will probably be worth a full game price. If any individual is still not convinced, then they should probably just sit and wait till they are (or ignore Horizons completely).
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If you are not after planetary landings, the ability to carry certain smaller vessels in larger vessels, in-game avatar customisation, nor the ability to crew your friend's ships (or visa versa) then Horizons will probably be not of interest to you. In such a case, if you own the original ED then you can still play the base game which essentially is an (arguably) enhanced version of the original 1980s Elite. However, if the list of features does interest you then Horizons may be of interest to you either now or some point in the future (currently we only have Planetary landings from that list).
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ED/EDH is far from perfect but it is extremely rare (if ever) that any game is (other than perhaps the most simple of games).
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It will be interesting to see how the progression from ED to EDH to future seasons pans out in terms of functionality progression and cost to both existing and new players but IMO FD are not price gouging like some would like to assert.
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Lifer here, so the more expansions the better. Provided the expansion doesn't break the game, of course. I would be disappointed with the expansion launch content had I paid €60. But as it is I'm happy as long as there are more expansions later.
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Yep, got it for £40 with the Beta since I had the base game which I also paid £40 for...generally happy with it as I've been about long enough to know they'll fix what isn't quite working as intended like some missions and other things.
Just takes a little time for them to work through these things.
I don't have an issue with the price and I'm not super-rich or anything and I'm a lot happier with ED's pricing structure than WOW's or others which cost a great deal more for a years worth of support and content.
I'll not even mention franchises like COD and Fifa where you just throw one away every year.
Just takes a little time for them to work through these things.
I don't have an issue with the price and I'm not super-rich or anything and I'm a lot happier with ED's pricing structure than WOW's or others which cost a great deal more for a years worth of support and content.
I'll not even mention franchises like COD and Fifa where you just throw one away every year.
"obvious cash-grab," "gouge the players," "close up shop"
I'm so glad we have these folks here to tell us exactly what FD is doing. Because any company that does something other that exactly what I want it to do is obviously an evil conglomerate hell bent on depriving me of money I'm not forced to spend on trivial and frivolous things like computer games. Really, if it weren't for their insider knowledge of FD's strategy and accounting, we'd only be left with baseless speculation and impotent rage over things that don't always go the way we wish they would.
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No other explanation is ever possible. It's always some dark, conspiratorial money grab. Always.
Again, so glad to have this person who obviously shares a psychic connection with Braben.
I bought Horizons and I'm happy with it.
I also look forward to the improvements and additional content I hope are on the way, but I'm happy with Horizons for the same reason I'm happy with Elite: Dangerous: I've gotten over 100 hours out of the base game, and expect to get another 100 at least out of Horizons.
I've spent $120 on the game (total). $120 divided by 200 hours would be $0.60 per hour of entertainment. That value absolutely trumps anything else in the entertainment industry. Books, movies, and music are all more expensive to purchase, when considered from the perspective of how long they entertain me. I'm about to drop $15 or more to go see Star Wars, a movie that will last ~2 hours (haven't seen actual run time). That's $7.50+/hour of entertainment. Therefore, the entire Elite: Dangerous and Horizons purchase of $120 is actually a better value than the cost of going to see Star Wars, when considering how much entertainment I'm getting out of it.
Would you spend 60 cents to be entertained for an hour?
I would but entertainment is a subjective valuation.
I purchased beta access to ED at £50 and have probably only played about 3 hours because I wasn't particularly entertained,
So by the same subjective metric I have paid about $25 ph for something that didn't entertain me.
To use the logic of your allegory, I could watch someone who is politically correct try to make a nuanced argument and be entertained for hours for no fee at all making politically correct people far better entertainment value then elite Dangerous.
Truth is subjective appraisals of what is value and what is not only make sense to people of a similar mindset and in that sense we are both preaching to the converted and falling on deaf ears so it doesn't advance things at all.
Bottom line is Frontier and the game will live or die by people voting with their wallets.
If enough people feel as you there will be no need to worry about the opinions of people like me, but also the reverse is true.
It is nigh on impossible to make a game that caters to everyone's tastes and whims for sure but I do feel there is a strong undercurrent of opinion that frontier need to make the game more engaging with content adding depth and continuity/persistence while making the dynamic aspects more conspicuous so that we feel we are a part on the world and what we do reflects upon that world and changes it even in small ways.
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Nope, got ganked with the lifetime pass and now have to buy horizons again after already spending the $75 on the beta that supposedly came with the lifetime pass. Plus seeing how the limited tech demo called Horizons is not even close to being complete....no point in throwing more money away. When it gets better...then yes....the money will be worth it.
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i will be waiting till its atleast 75% off on steam, mainly because both fd and steam are still trying to peddle elite dangerous by its self for £30
Got it with the Lifetime Expansion pass. Played "jump the dune buggy over craters and cliffs" during beta. Ran mouse+keyboard on the SRV, so I could drive - couldn't figure out keys to go to turret and shoot. Got planetary landings out of my system.
Haven't been in Horizons since launch. Fun, but so is 1.5. I'll eventually fire it up. Planetary landings won't be on my radar, unless I can get a gamepad configured. Mouse+KB won't cut it.
Haven't been in Horizons since launch. Fun, but so is 1.5. I'll eventually fire it up. Planetary landings won't be on my radar, unless I can get a gamepad configured. Mouse+KB won't cut it.
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Yes, and I am very happy with the current offerings of the expansion.
If future expansions continue to follow the pricing trends we've seen, it'll be a bargain in my book.
If future expansions continue to follow the pricing trends we've seen, it'll be a bargain in my book.
People like the game, as shown by the poll and replies to this thread. Personally I waited 31 years or so to land on planets in this game, so you'll have to forgive me for actually enjoying the first part of the Horizons season. I also enjoy the game as a whole, sure there's stuff wrong with it, but that's just like life. It's given me nearly 300 hours of enjoyment at £3.50 an hour and plenty more to come. It really is that simple. You don't feel that way and it's cool, but there's no need with the passive aggressive 'fanboyism' stuff.....