New Station in Pleiades..... is a Pirate Hub ??!??

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CMDR i Tetsuo

CMDR i Tetsuo
FalconFly said:
The Explorer's Association doesn't exactly sound like their goal is to extend Anarchy into deep space, does it? Neither are they the Pirates' Association, nor the Smuggler's Association....
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You can't "extend Anarchy" into deep space, deep space is anarchy! People always seem to confuse the word for Pirates/criminals whereas anarchy just means;
a person or society "without rulers" or "without leaders."
It's less "punks in space-barges spray painting slurs on the bathroom walls" and more "no central control" which makes total sense this far out from the occupied bubble of human space.
 
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Walt Kerman

Walt Kerman
Also to be clear. I don't believe Hagglebeard was informed before hand that he was even having a player faction named after him. This was not given to a player group. Hagglebeard, in understandable excitement, created a player group after the fact.

I'm saying this because I've been reading back through the thread and people are saying "Frontier is catering too much to player groups! Its turning into a game of thrones board game!". No. No player groups involved here except the groups that came together, about 17 and lobbied frontier for this CG in the group leaders forum. Frontier simply put some nice easter eggs, that are supposed to be fun, in the faction tab that people are misinterpreting.

Frontier allowing groups to name their own faction hurts you in no way. Moreover, this is not the case here. In fact, the player group names usually stick closer to immersion. The Pioneer's Cooperative is actually the name of the Cooperative of 17 player groups that came together lobby frontier for this CG. Not actually a player group itself, but a loose collection of players and groups. Of all the one's that name is probably the only one that Frontier didn't think up as a surprise (maybe the others chose the names of their factions, but judging by their reactions it was a surprise). No one is complaining about that name.

Sorry that this has rubbed me the wrong way, but its a constant theme I see. Frontier tries to do something nice with the community, it inevitably isn't exactly how someone wants it, and the community lashes out. Lets all just concede that Frontier is absolutely awesome for supporting this, it was fun. Everyone got a nice toy. Some outstanding members of the community who made it possible got their names on a minor faction. What other game developers involve the community like this? Few.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
I think perhaps some of you guys are confusing the reasons for some people's concerns voiced in this thread. It's more or less a moot point now anyway though.

Ironically, this is perhaps one of the reasons the station should have been sent to a real nebula. But, it was a community vote and I voted for it too.

Good luck, guys. The Thargoids specifically don't actually hold all that much interest to me.
 
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DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
When The White Templars weaponized UAs against Delaine to shut down Harma it was called Xenoterrorism.

And I'm inclined to agree.
If this shutdown is a deliberate Player Action, that is a real turd in the swimming pool.

Anyone from this thread so grumpy they would do this?

Cannon crew, I'm looking at you here.


You wouldn't do that would you?
Must be FDev messing with our heads.
 
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Walt Kerman

Walt Kerman
Whatever, it was inevitable. There is going to be a CG where we collect UA's and deliver them to the new surface research facility. Just you watch. I don't actually know this for sure, but I have a pretty good record on calling these things ;)
 

Malkevin

Malkevin
Maybe the lack of computer components made the station's overloaded control systems crash out, and isn't actually related to UAs at all?
 
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ocflyer

ocflyer
Kicks said:
Trickier than you think ;)

Other than the donation missions, the rest are all back to the bubble. I'll smoke you a kipper, you'll be back for breakfast? :)
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What do the long haul missions look like (cargo requirements, cargo status, distance, payout)?
 

DragoonKnight

DragoonKnight
mortenfischer said:
Where lies the betrayel in this? Does it matter who "controls" the station. You can still dock there you know.

When you think about it, it makes no sense that a place - that far from anything - should be heavily controlled place in the first place.
You have the option to work towards a flip of control to another faction there also.

In any case, that station will not be more or less dangerous anything else.
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The betrayal is that the community worked hard to build this station. It should be for everyone, not benefiting one group of players more than others. When FD gives a player faction control of a system, that comes with a nice 60% influence boost which entrenches them there. Combine that with a broken BGS and there is no real way to fight this.

FD already betrayed the community once before when it gave Anlave to a player controlled group. Anlave is a system with a lot of lore behind it, why should any player named faction be there?
What's next? Player named factions in SOL?
IMHO player named factions should only be allowed in systems that do not have a lot of lore or history to them. There are hundreds of star systems around and enough to make this happen without FD favoring small groups of individuals like this.

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Halèks said:
See the linked pic above : Nebula Goat society (not kidding), Hagglebeard's heroes, Ant Hill mob and pionners cooperative.
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A community effort to flip the system to the Nebula Goat Society would be hilarious.
 

Walt Kerman

Walt Kerman
DragoonKnight said:
The betrayal is that the community worked hard to build this station. It should be for everyone, not benefiting one group of players more than others. When FD gives a player faction control of a system, that comes with a nice 60% influence boost which entrenches them there. Combine that with a broken BGS and there is no real way to fight this.

FD already betrayed the community once before when it gave Anlave to a player controlled group. Anlave is a system with a lot of lore behind it, why should any player named faction be there?
What's next? Player named factions in SOL?
IMHO player named factions should only be allowed in systems that do not have a lot of lore or history to them. There are hundreds of star systems around and enough to make this happen without FD favoring small groups of individuals like this.

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A community effort to flip the system to the Nebula Goat Society would be hilarious.
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You are wrong. Frontier did not give the system over to any player factions.

Please read this: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=214720&page=7&p=3308496&viewfull=1#post3308496
 

Nyres

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I have to say I'm ashamed Frontier even let that happen I get it emergent gameplay but this has to be an act of trolling that needs to be rescinded. There's no reason to let the only station outside the bubble to be shut down other than to say "Haha thought you might have actually done some good via CGs too bad". Its a punch in the gut to anyone who contributed to the goal and an even bigger one to the person the Station is named after. I strongly request that Frontier override this nonsense and open Obsidian Orbital back up to full operating capabilities. Honestly I think a fair act of protest would be to boycott any station or base building CGs until Frontier does not allow them to be trolled in the manner that Obsidian Orbital was.
 
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