Well that is how I play prepare3D, and I would not call that a casual game actually. So your analogy is not perfect
Is Elite Dangerous a Dad's Game Played mainly by "non-gamers"?
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Well that is how I play prepare3D, and I would not call that a casual game actually. So your analogy is not perfect
True, I got side tracked.
But the state of the game, to me, is well... "unfun"...
In sort of recent times Games prior to ED, Silent Hunter, Cliffs of Dover, Rise of Flight, WWIIOL.
I only tend to play one or two games at a time no longer a heaps at a time type so probably a proper DAD gamer here.
Over the decades way to many platforms way to many games way to much money wasted on reflection
Yes played the Original Elite on the Beeb (Tape version had more asteroids you could pop them for a credit a time - maybe half?)
Very pleased ED exists - I would like to know where the wire frame option is in the Graphics settings ;-)
I only tend to play one or two games at a time no longer a heaps at a time type so probably a proper DAD gamer here.
Over the decades way to many platforms way to many games way to much money wasted on reflection
Yes played the Original Elite on the Beeb (Tape version had more asteroids you could pop them for a credit a time - maybe half?)
Very pleased ED exists - I would like to know where the wire frame option is in the Graphics settings ;-)
I don't think you have the same definition of casual as I do, casual games are games with short session times, and the ability to gain appreciable 'gain' within that short time.
But yeah, as previously mentioned words like 'hardcore' and such are thrown around everywhere of late, same with labelling games casual for 'some' undefined reason, or simply because they don't see it as 'hardcore', the vast majority of games are neither hardcore nor casual, unless they are like many mobile games and such, specifically made to be casual, as described above.
Then the job is to explain why it is not fun and suggest solutions and realise that not everyone will agree with you.
Blaming an imaginary group of old fogies like me isn't going to help
I exhaled through my nose, lol.
OP probably believe BF or GTA is hardcore games, hardcore are more like DayZ in locked 1st person mode.
Well that is how I play prepare3D, and I would not call that a casual game actually. So your analogy is not perfect
I was talking about Elite......are you in the right forum?
Damn, as a dad of 2 I shall stop playing Witcher 3, Halo 5, Assassin's Creed Syndicate and a whole host of other titles immediately, I shall never pick up a 'modern' game, a 'gamer game' or a twitch based pvp game again. I also swear never to want a bit of variety in my gaming library with the occasional change of pace such as Elite D, Football Manager, civilisation or the like again. I would also like to offer my sincere apologies to you 'real' gamer types, how dare I/we be any good at different games, be experienced and knowledgeable.
/rollseyes /sarcasm off /will carry on regardless.
/rollseyes /sarcasm off /will carry on regardless.
I do not blame "old fogies", nor you.Then the job is to explain why it is not fun and suggest solutions and realise that not everyone will agree with you.
Blaming an imaginary group of old fogies like me isn't going to help
I said, about the state of the game, i do not blame anyone.
You can check this, it's a page or 2, 3 ago.
Well, i did put in some ideas, and some like it, some do not.Then the job is to explain why it is not fun and suggest solutions and realise that not everyone will agree with you.
Blaming an imaginary group of old fogies like me isn't going to help
Also, I gave the ideas as OPTIONAL, so those that do not like these ideas, could play the 'old skool' way.
I do respect the purists.
But some do not see this vica versa...
EDIT: Again the canopy topic: I asked for a military, sturdier variant for sale.
People that hate this, can stick with their original version, like Mr. Ziggy Stardust.
But give people like me an option as well, please?
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bah havitatcha.. you young gamers don't know you are are bloody born. if it can't be picked up in 5 mins, doesn't have a flaming roadmap, or doesn't provide gratificationism-instantaneous, it is somehow a sub par game, a non gamergamers game.. that is total nogswallop i tell you.. NOGSWALLOP!!
i jest of course, gaming is gaming, age is irrelevant. while there are certain demographics that have a preference to game type A over game type B, this game is this game. it is the modern day realisation of something started by a couple of young gamers over 3 decades ago.. there really is no other way it should be! think about it, by changing this games direction and feel, in order to appeal to a different demographic, frontier would in essence be raising a central digit to the majority of its its current player base, and turning its back on the ideology central to the game.
i jest of course, gaming is gaming, age is irrelevant. while there are certain demographics that have a preference to game type A over game type B, this game is this game. it is the modern day realisation of something started by a couple of young gamers over 3 decades ago.. there really is no other way it should be! think about it, by changing this games direction and feel, in order to appeal to a different demographic, frontier would in essence be raising a central digit to the majority of its its current player base, and turning its back on the ideology central to the game.
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E: D is a game you can take at your own pace. Hence it's good for most folk.
I only have a limited time to play, as I work full-time; so I'm not a student, or retired.
I've played numerous games since 1969 (started at work), including the original Elite (in 2 versions), and the 2 follow ups, Wing Commander, and follow ups, the whole X-BTF series, the whole Civilization series, Command and Conquer series, and very many others. I also played Wolfenstein (the original FPS) and finished it, and other FPSs, but am not as keen on them as some others.
So, I think I've played a little more than average (46 years gaming and counting, but the first few years were somewhat lean!)...
Elite (1984 original) was when games grew up. I've enjoyed all sorts of games in the past, and hope to in the future too.
Yes, I'm not a young gamer (was working in 1969, so go figure)... but I do have a wealth of gaming experience to draw upon, and there's very little I've not seen before.
So yes, I'm one of the older gamers here, but that doesn't mean I can't compete, or that I stick to solo or group (I'm not even a member of Mobius).
A game these days has to give me a challenge (still), which is why I play the Civ series, and why I like E: D (always did like space sims anyway). However, these games are what you make of them... do you play Civ on a setting you know you can beat, or one you're challenged by? Do you go to a RES and pick out the Elite Anaconda, or the Competent Adder, or something in between? It's always your choice, and neither is wrong, after all, it's your game.
I only have a limited time to play, as I work full-time; so I'm not a student, or retired.
I've played numerous games since 1969 (started at work), including the original Elite (in 2 versions), and the 2 follow ups, Wing Commander, and follow ups, the whole X-BTF series, the whole Civilization series, Command and Conquer series, and very many others. I also played Wolfenstein (the original FPS) and finished it, and other FPSs, but am not as keen on them as some others.
So, I think I've played a little more than average (46 years gaming and counting, but the first few years were somewhat lean!)...
Elite (1984 original) was when games grew up. I've enjoyed all sorts of games in the past, and hope to in the future too.
Yes, I'm not a young gamer (was working in 1969, so go figure)... but I do have a wealth of gaming experience to draw upon, and there's very little I've not seen before.
So yes, I'm one of the older gamers here, but that doesn't mean I can't compete, or that I stick to solo or group (I'm not even a member of Mobius).
A game these days has to give me a challenge (still), which is why I play the Civ series, and why I like E: D (always did like space sims anyway). However, these games are what you make of them... do you play Civ on a setting you know you can beat, or one you're challenged by? Do you go to a RES and pick out the Elite Anaconda, or the Competent Adder, or something in between? It's always your choice, and neither is wrong, after all, it's your game.
See, this I do not ask for.
I do not want to take the game away from the purists.
But still, things can be added without these interfering with purism, no?
i don't believe so no, and it isn't about purism.. its about the feel of a thing.
(porridge with salt, is simply not the same thing, as porridge with sugar)
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Well, I have the same, but I fail to find it in ED.
I also like very much to be amongst human players, joke around, tell stories (or rather hear them), company is a bloody good thing in a game.
Which is why I joined Mobius in the first place.
Where space is a living, vibrant 'entity' almost, where "birth, war and death" is a constant thing, ED is beyong dead, seems.
And this has been said many a time on this forum.
Some like this, but I fail to get into that.
I abhor Jazz, for instance, but i won't ever say "it's bad", or "It's not real music".
It CAN'T be bad if thousands listen to it and enjoy it.
ED ain't bad either, but it lacks some things for my taste.
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'More grey' and 'Equal or less grey'?
Did you miss the bit where I said I just finished dark souls (having finished DkS 2 before that) ... plus I never once mention "hardcore". I bet you probably think hardcore means pong or something else I have no evidence whatsoever of asserting, in fact there's evidence to the contrary but I will say it anyway. Just like you.
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One thing always baffled me:
Why do some folk who don't like a game, endlessly knock it on the game forums?
Haven't they got anything better to do, other better (to them) games to play?
I suspect some of the same people may be the gankers who like to kill sideys in starting systems.
Why do they bother?
Why do some folk who don't like a game, endlessly knock it on the game forums?
Haven't they got anything better to do, other better (to them) games to play?
I suspect some of the same people may be the gankers who like to kill sideys in starting systems.
Why do they bother?