Your system actually has planetary stations, including the famous Lockwood Arsenal.
Have a look:
So as I said, don't take the local news too serious. Can't help you with your expansion though, sorry!
A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim
- Thread starter Walt Kerman
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Your system actually has planetary stations, including the famous Lockwood Arsenal.
Have a look:
So as I said, don't take the local news too serious. Can't help you with your expansion though, sorry!
seriously +1 a million times over for this one. It'd be freaking b-e-a-utiful. It'd be like having that "check galaxy map" in the transaction and bulletin board now. Remember when we didn't have that? Wow... I'm a "back in my day" player lol
Your system actually has planetary stations, including the famous Lockwood Arsenal.
Have a look:
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So as I said, don't take the local news too serious. Can't help you with your expansion though, sorry!
Wow....lots of planetary stations. Your assistance is much appreciated CMDR.
[RP]I am in Yembo and when I landed here, I checked EDDB and noticed it was well out of date within a 30LY range and most importantly was missing most of the planetary stations. I have asked my pilots to install a small module in there cockpits that only pops up on docking to help update this information https://github.com/Marginal/EDMarketConnector/wiki [/RP]
seriously since horizons a lot of information is missing from eddb so don't rely on it but help to update it as its a useful tool for every pilot.
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Yeah we continue to work on it, but a lot of outlying areas are just waiting to be profitably traded to , so perhaps stations arent being upgraded due to opportunisitc and intelligent pilots finding and running the routes
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Yeah that system has a lot of planetary stations almost as many as maroi
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=234480
Direct confirmation that the maximum expansion range for a minor faction is infact 50LY not 30LY i think the mercs of mikinn guidebook on minor faction expansion ranges now needs to be updated asap.
Direct confirmation that the maximum expansion range for a minor faction is infact 50LY not 30LY i think the mercs of mikinn guidebook on minor faction expansion ranges now needs to be updated asap.
Apologies if this has been asked before but I need clarification on the effect bhing has on minor factions.
If I go to my local haz res with a kws and attack wanted npc's affiliated with my enemy faction, and then travel out of system to cash in Bounty's, will this negatively effect their influence?
If I go to my local haz res with a kws and attack wanted npc's affiliated with my enemy faction, and then travel out of system to cash in Bounty's, will this negatively effect their influence?
I had the suggestion to increase my search radius for my missing expansion to 50ly range from QA Mitch yesterday....raised the possible systems from 125 to 400+, I checked out to 35ly.
I found 4 systems with 4 or less minor factions, still no sign of my minor faction, giving it up as lost now as this is a space sim not a map reading sim.
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In our system we had 2 wars at the same time both between an interloper (no stations) and a native faction.
13/02/16
14/02/16 @ 16:00
14/02/16 @ 23:00
15/02/16 between 19:50-20:50
B vs E
At this point I decided it was an opportunity to test trade against combat and the troupes where restless, so everyone was asked to get involved in B vs E war on the side of B and after a few cashing in in the wrong place, continued that until today.
We fought on the side of B and tried cashing in at the home system of F and they wouldn't allow it so we went to home system of E (try it on) but no way.
We finally had to cash them at the home station of our native faction B which caused them to lose influence even though we where fighting for them.
C vs F
During this time I traded
16/02/16 720 individual trades into station C (buggy race)
17/02/16 589 individual trades out of A into C
18/02/16 720 trades out of A 420 trades into A
18/02/16 Between 11:50 - 12:00
20/02/16 @ 11.57 (I wasn't waiting)
Today first war has been in ceasefire 2 days (Ticks) with both parties pending Boom and the rest in boom.
POP 5.4 Mil
What did I learn?
Firstly trading does have an influence but!. One test involved 10 x 2 ton trades into C (ground station) influence went up 2%.
but 729 trades in & out of A made little difference.
The war I traded ended sooner.
We moved influence between the wars but it stayed locked up.
There is a difference between combat bonds and bounty bonds and how they are wielded.
You can't cash combat bonds out of system (assumption). May already be known.
And I am not sure if 2 wars in the system is a common occurrence.
Not sure if there is anything to be learned from this but I thought I would put it up anyway.
All times CET game time +1
13/02/16
A) our faction 63.8% Lockdown
B) Native 1 8.8% War vs E
C) Native 2 6.2 None
D) Native faction 3 6.9% None
E) interloper 1 7.0% War
F) interloper 2 7.3% Boom
B) Native 1 8.8% War vs E
C) Native 2 6.2 None
D) Native faction 3 6.9% None
E) interloper 1 7.0% War
F) interloper 2 7.3% Boom
A) our faction 63.6% None
B) Native 1 8.5% War vs E
C) Native 2 6.4% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.7% Boom
E) interloper 1 7.3% War vs B
F) interloper 2 7.5% War vs C
B) Native 1 8.5% War vs E
C) Native 2 6.4% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.7% Boom
E) interloper 1 7.3% War vs B
F) interloper 2 7.5% War vs C
A) our faction 63.8% Civil unrest
B) Native 1 7.9% War vs E
C) Native 2 7.8% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.5% Boom
E) interloper 1 6.9% War vs B
F) interloper 2 6.9% War vs C
B) Native 1 7.9% War vs E
C) Native 2 7.8% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.5% Boom
E) interloper 1 6.9% War vs B
F) interloper 2 6.9% War vs C
A) our faction 63.5% None
B) Native 1 7.2% War vs E
C) Native 2 8.9% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.8% Boom
E) interloper 1 6.7% War vs B
F) interloper 2 6.9% War vs C
B) Native 1 7.2% War vs E
C) Native 2 8.9% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 6.8% Boom
E) interloper 1 6.7% War vs B
F) interloper 2 6.9% War vs C
At this point I decided it was an opportunity to test trade against combat and the troupes where restless, so everyone was asked to get involved in B vs E war on the side of B and after a few cashing in in the wrong place, continued that until today.
We fought on the side of B and tried cashing in at the home system of F and they wouldn't allow it so we went to home system of E (try it on) but no way.
We finally had to cash them at the home station of our native faction B which caused them to lose influence even though we where fighting for them.
C vs F
During this time I traded
16/02/16 720 individual trades into station C (buggy race
)17/02/16 589 individual trades out of A into C
18/02/16 720 trades out of A 420 trades into A
18/02/16 Between 11:50 - 12:00
A) our faction 62.9% Boom
B) Native 1 6.3% War vs E
C) Native 2 11.6% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 7.4% None
E) interloper 1 6.7% War vs B
F) interloper 2 5.1% War vs C
B) Native 1 6.3% War vs E
C) Native 2 11.6% War vs F
D) Native faction 3 7.4% None
E) interloper 1 6.7% War vs B
F) interloper 2 5.1% War vs C
A) our faction 63.2% Boom
B) Native 1 7.9% War vs E Ceasefire on 21/02/16
C) Native 2 10% None
D) Native faction 3 7.2 None% Boom
E) interloper 1 7.3% War vs B
F) interloper 2 4.4% None
B) Native 1 7.9% War vs E Ceasefire on 21/02/16
C) Native 2 10% None
D) Native faction 3 7.2 None% Boom
E) interloper 1 7.3% War vs B
F) interloper 2 4.4% None
POP 5.4 Mil
What did I learn?
Firstly trading does have an influence but!. One test involved 10 x 2 ton trades into C (ground station) influence went up 2%.
but 729 trades in & out of A made little difference.
The war I traded ended sooner.
We moved influence between the wars but it stayed locked up.
There is a difference between combat bonds and bounty bonds and how they are wielded.
You can't cash combat bonds out of system (assumption). May already be known.
And I am not sure if 2 wars in the system is a common occurrence.
Not sure if there is anything to be learned from this but I thought I would put it up anyway.
All times CET game time +1
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1 station, 1 plpanet, only 2 factions, at war ...... no combat zones ... any ideas?
Only to log as a bug....I have had the same 3 times now, on all occasions doing BB missions still increased factions influence while the war (that wasn't) was on going.
my mate needs the cz's to win the station
Same with me currently... No CZ's but now 22% more influence than who I am fighting (or not) against...FDev have had to manually end the ones before and will have to this time too, System ownership will change then.
Apologies, I know this is an often asked question I'm just looking for confirmation.
I have a small system where we're essentially done promoting the last place faction to the controlling faction and it will soon start expanding. I've mapped all the systems within 20 LY (I'll do to 30+ but it grows quickly).
There are 15 systems within 20LY, I have a catalog of each recording the distance, populaton (2K to 50M), number of factions (3 to 6), number of stations (0 to 7) and whether they have a secondary industry (or are just have one like just extraction or just industrial). Our adopted faction does not exist in any of these 15 systems.
These are all factors I've read in this thread and elsewhere that contribute or are believed to contribute in some small way to target selection. There are one or two systems I'd certainly like to see us expand into and 2 or 3 I definitely don't want us to expand into (e.g. 1 station no planets) I'm basically looking for confirmation that there's not any active role I can play at this stage to effect the selection. Later on if/when we've expanded we can control where we jump from but there's never any direct control for the 'to' portion.
Is that correct or did I miss some subtle game we can play with the potential targets to reduce (or increase) the odds of them being selected.
Assuming the above is correct our long term plan (months) is to let the RNG do its thing and then promote the faction whenever it happens to land in favorable systems and just let them languish (but not enter into bad states) if they jump into unfavorable systems unless that system is favorably located to reach some plum system in which case we'll promote it over all other systems.
Again I know this gets asked but it would be painful to discover I missed something and I really appreciate all the hard effort folks have put into de-mystifying some of this.
I have a small system where we're essentially done promoting the last place faction to the controlling faction and it will soon start expanding. I've mapped all the systems within 20 LY (I'll do to 30+ but it grows quickly).
There are 15 systems within 20LY, I have a catalog of each recording the distance, populaton (2K to 50M), number of factions (3 to 6), number of stations (0 to 7) and whether they have a secondary industry (or are just have one like just extraction or just industrial). Our adopted faction does not exist in any of these 15 systems.
These are all factors I've read in this thread and elsewhere that contribute or are believed to contribute in some small way to target selection. There are one or two systems I'd certainly like to see us expand into and 2 or 3 I definitely don't want us to expand into (e.g. 1 station no planets) I'm basically looking for confirmation that there's not any active role I can play at this stage to effect the selection. Later on if/when we've expanded we can control where we jump from but there's never any direct control for the 'to' portion.
Is that correct or did I miss some subtle game we can play with the potential targets to reduce (or increase) the odds of them being selected.
Assuming the above is correct our long term plan (months) is to let the RNG do its thing and then promote the faction whenever it happens to land in favorable systems and just let them languish (but not enter into bad states) if they jump into unfavorable systems unless that system is favorably located to reach some plum system in which case we'll promote it over all other systems.
Again I know this gets asked but it would be painful to discover I missed something and I really appreciate all the hard effort folks have put into de-mystifying some of this.
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I have only done as most...read this thread and drawn my own conclusions from what i have seen myself...I'm no expert!!
Following an expansion you ' should ' be inserted into the nearest system containing less than 5 minor factions, it certainly has been with mine (6ly, 18ly & 26ly). With that in mind you can take a best guess to where you will be expanding to and even pave the way for your arrival by lowering the influence of the minor faction in control of that system.
Following an expansion you ' should ' be inserted into the nearest system containing less than 5 minor factions, it certainly has been with mine (6ly, 18ly & 26ly). With that in mind you can take a best guess to where you will be expanding to and even pave the way for your arrival by lowering the influence of the minor faction in control of that system.
Looks like it's not an uncommon probem: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=234347