Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
Is anyone else seeing reduced timings for state timers in the last couple of days?
A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim
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Don't think so. In fact we had an expansion last 2 days longer than it should. Was just about to raise a bug report, but it's cleared this morning.
But don't forget the states still changed on Sunday even though the number didn't. Is that the reduction you mean?
We were inserted into the furthest with the most. 27.99ly and 9 factions
'Working as intended' ?
Is there a system within 50 ly (or at least 30 ly) that has <5 factions?
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
No we've had no state/pending state/active state and new pending state in 3 systems in 3 days. Its like the state hamster is running faster. In one of those its ea new expansion pending 6 days after the last one.
Many many. This was system 205 out of 205 in terms of likelihood
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
Was it your 1st expansion into a >4 faction system - I ask because we have an example of the last possible place going for the 1st >4.
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Ah perhaps this has something to do with it https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/56cdd9c09657bae3419aaddc
FD seem to writing us into their storyline. Maybe some behind the scenes tweaking
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Ah perhaps this has something to do with it https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/56cdd9c09657bae3419aaddc
FD seem to writing us into their storyline. Maybe some behind the scenes tweaking
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I normally view bumping a post as bad form but my question was the last post on the previous page and the first reply on this page gave rise to a sort of different 'range based' debate.
So is there any known way to influence the choice of where a faction will jump *to*. I know you can influence the *from* part.
For instance in all the conversations I've found I never saw anybody comment on the influence rating of the top or bottom ranked faction in the target system, only the total number of factions.
Maybe it's too obvious and was shown not to matter long ago or maybe folks just missed that out of the set of candidate systems you always jump to the system with the lowest top ranked influence or you always jumped to the one with the lowest separation between bottom and top (which is more likely to be close for a small set of factions). Then it would be easy to control where you jumped to by playing politics with the set of target systems before boosting your faction.
Thanks in advance.
Lockdown - "Activities have no effect for the duration"
I#m wondering about that MB quote:
Lockdown: "Activities have no effect for the duration"
- i think, we see in our system no influence effect for our (system and stations controlling) faction during the current lockdown : - no effect of influence increase by selling exploration data, cashing in bounties, trade etc., but influence effects of destroying ships of that faction - anybody with the same impression?
- we assume, bounty hunting helps to shorten duration of lockdown (because it helps not to get into lockdown) - anybody with the same assumption? /EDIT: here is MB's quote on bounty hunting reducing duration of lockdown: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=71327&p=1665470&viewfull=1#post1665470
I#m wondering about that MB quote:
Lockdown: "Activities have no effect for the duration"
- i think, we see in our system no influence effect for our (system and stations controlling) faction during the current lockdown : - no effect of influence increase by selling exploration data, cashing in bounties, trade etc., but influence effects of destroying ships of that faction - anybody with the same impression?
- we assume, bounty hunting helps to shorten duration of lockdown (because it helps not to get into lockdown) - anybody with the same assumption? /EDIT: here is MB's quote on bounty hunting reducing duration of lockdown: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=71327&p=1665470&viewfull=1#post1665470
dynamicbob
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at sirius inc we got confirmation the other day from the devs on our missing ( we found it in the end) expansion could be up to a mximum of 50ly not 30ly ( so 50ly is the max expansion range for a minor faction at the moment) so if you have one have checked 30ly or less ( push those searches out to 50ly)
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50ly max range. And if it aint a 4 faction system it can be up to a system with 10 factions ( 1 of those will be pushed back) and youres can be inserted. Of course as range gets bigger search area gets bigger and with no local newsletter explaining where the expansion went to (which should be easy enough for fdev to add) and save us all a lot of work and bug reports
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50ly max range. And if it aint a 4 faction system it can be up to a system with 10 factions ( 1 of those will be pushed back) and youres can be inserted. Of course as range gets bigger search area gets bigger and with no local newsletter explaining where the expansion went to (which should be easy enough for fdev to add) and save us all a lot of work and bug reports
I'm the first to admit that maths was never my strong point, so I'm quite prepared for someone to point out the flaws in my reasoning. There are obvious assumptions about regularity of distribution and calculations are on the basis of stars that must be listed for inspection and not whether they are inhabited, but as a rule of thumb:
1 The volume of space contained in a region of 30ly radius is approximately 113,097 cubic light years.
2 If this volume contains 15 systems, this gives a density of 1 system per 11,310cly.
3 The volume of space contained in a sphere of 50ly radius is approximately 523,599 cubic light years.
4 Given the same distribution pattern, isn't the potential number of stars to be listed in the expanded region equal to 523,599 / 11,310, or roughly 463?
5 A density of 15 stars in a sphere of 30ly radius gives roughly 1042 systems within a 50ly radius.
If these calculations are correct (and I repeat, there's quite likely to be an error somewhere so please highlight the problem), at what point does the BGS become a full-time job?
Whoa there....maths!!! I put into eddb where I was and to search for systems with stations and it came back with 413...despite what I originally said I have continued the search, now out to 43ly still no sign after 4 hours of 'gameplay'.
Believe me typing names into the galaxy maps using a Xbox controller is no fun at all...it also gives me a wonderful 'buzz crash' to Xbox dashboard after 10 (maximum) system displays.
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The BGS is a fulltime job!
Posted a thread requesting in station news stories for letting us know where the hell our guys went!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=235089&p=3615049#post3615049
Posted a thread requesting in station news stories for letting us know where the hell our guys went!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=235089&p=3615049#post3615049
I saw that and it makes complete sense: as the devs can see where factions have expanded, it's clearly a policy decision not to reveal these destinations. I didn't want to add my calculations to your thread before someone else had checked my working out.
I checked one of our home bases and it returned 30 inhabited systems under the 30ly mark (which suggests 4167 inside the 50ly boundary), and we're not in a dense region.
It's possible that FD uses an unsupervised algorithm for resolving expansion points and no-one in human management had appreciated the implications of searching an enlarged region.
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For this on the Xbox I tend to either use the smart glass app, allows copy/paste into it, or streaming to windows 10, though usually just switch to the PC cmdr in that case.
My home system has 76 inhabited systems within 30ly and I'm near the edge of the bubble. If expansions are going out to 50ly we really need an indication of where it went.
System we track is 78 systems at 30ly rising to 348 at 50ly. So yeah it's a huge difference in potential destinations to check.
At the moment you can generally use the displaced faction, if there is one, to work it out but as factions get shuffled around even this won't always be reliable.
Morning, just a couple of things i have been asked
In an anarchy system, does murder and piracy have the same effect? After all, bounties aren't issued for murder and piracy.
Second, are bounties relevant in an anarchy?
Do we have any reason to treat anarchy any differently than the rest when working on tactics?
Bounty bonds and combat bonds!
Are they effectively the same when cashing in but just collected differently?
How does it work when bounties are collected from another system?
Combat bonds I assume are system specific.
Sorry I concentrated on trade and ignored this side of the game until getting involved in the BGS
In an anarchy system, does murder and piracy have the same effect? After all, bounties aren't issued for murder and piracy.
Second, are bounties relevant in an anarchy?
Do we have any reason to treat anarchy any differently than the rest when working on tactics?
Bounty bonds and combat bonds!
Are they effectively the same when cashing in but just collected differently?
How does it work when bounties are collected from another system?
Combat bonds I assume are system specific.
Sorry I concentrated on trade and ignored this side of the game until getting involved in the BGS
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Are you aware that you can connect a wired keyboard to one of your Xbox USB ports? And so, type directly in your comms panel like you do on pc?
Works like a charm.
