Aww poor little Open boy. I will remember this image every time I read something by Mr Fang. Hah!
(info) First bonus for playing in OPEN under consideration for PP
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Aww poor little Open boy. I will remember this image every time I read something by Mr Fang. Hah!
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I imagine the original comment was referring to rebuy costs only, if not and it applied to all vouchers/cargo, then that's a completely ridiculous idea as you're essentially wanting god mode (except for the travel time).
THIS! THIS SO MUCH!!!
No, unless you're attacking them (like you can do for PP NPC...)
Maybe the BGS does some background maths to simulate a bit of this or that (hence the name...), but AFAIK the changes in minor factions influences are driven only by the players.
YEs, see Sandro's post history.
That's my feeling on it too. I feel like a lot of people avoid open because they don't want to be killed. I feel like you should have the same risk of being killed regardless of your chosen mode.
Really, so all those NPCs taking goods in/out of the stations have no influence huh? You know, if you are having some problems getting the BGS to work as you think it should, I THINK I know why....
NPCs have an influence on the BGS, FD has confirmed that, it's part OF the BGS no less, which is why there's no need for anything like Sandro's proposal to be proffered for the BGS itself, it's NOT purely player driven. PP, totally player driven, nothing else, so any imbalances in PP can clearly be seen for what they are since there's no other influences at work in PP.
RE: switching Open to Solo/Group, easy to deal with, flags, already used in the game before that indicate your mode and change if you change it, therefore going into Open to start your PP actions then switching mode would set your PP activities to the mode you switched to and keep them in that state, so no cheating the system.
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Yes I used that image about 20 pages back to try and make that point.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=237822&page=74&p=3677893#post3677893
Just my 2 cents, I don't think a person makes it hard, it's more like roaming gank-squads that engage in 4v1 encounters that make things dangerous. NPC's can be a threat, we just don't see the Elite/proper-loadout ones very often.
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My rep notifications seem to indicate a dozen new users have seen it for the first time.
hahaha
edit: I gotta say your post has quite a strong slant to it
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NPCs can be positively frightening. Wings of Vultures, Clippers, or Anacondas can easily wreck someone if they're not careful. When I have run into those groups, I just run.
I would submit that a change that increases my effectiveness towards my goal is a personal gain (i.e. supporting my PP faction). Also, PP, I believe, was not meant for new players, and those that truly participate in PP to support their power, are probably no longer interested so much in other 'personal gain', i.e. credits, Navy rank, etc. anyway.
I can appreciate that you cannot say 'we will never introduce % bonuses for playing in Open, except for PP', but this idea being floated, and the people asking for exactly that (other bonuses for Open outside of PP) in this thread and others, look like writing on the wall to me. I will just have to wait for that day, and when it comes, do what I plan to do.
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P.S. I don't see minor faction operations as 'vague'. More numerous, maybe, less simplistic than 'take stuff from A to B', maybe, but not vague. This is how you support your faction:
To raise your faction influence:
- run missions for your faction only. It doesn’t matter which station you get them from, as long as they are for your faction.
- do not run missions INTO your system from other systems unless the mission text says you're delivering to your faction.
- If you bounty hunt, do NOT kill your faction ships, even if they are wanted. DO kill other faction ships.
- BH and turn in bounties for your faction, if yours is the controlling faction.
- Conduct 'for profit' trade with your faction's stations.
- Turn in exploration data to your faction stations.
Indeed, being outnumbered can get ugly quick if you're not outfitted for it!
Do you have a source for that ?
I know that FD wanted it that way in the design phase, but I also know the simulated NPCs effect was tuned down a lot during the beta phase.
And I'm 100% certain that the "simulated NPCs effect" is only a server based simulation, it has absolutely nothing to do with the actions of the NPCs in an instance (unless you're killing them, but that is a player action, not a NPC action), it is just used to spawn those NPC, but keeping an instance open on your computer near a station will not change anything to the BGS even if there are a thousand ships going in and out of the station in that instance.
Two more:
take and betray missions from other factions that help your faction
or abandon them.
The issue with that analogy is that G-Fang Plumbers are working actively against a group of bandits continuously disrupting the company's work, but B-Fung Plumbing gets no interference whatsoever. Both groups work for the government, yet the government pays both group the same.
Guess who's going to work for G-Fang Plumbers? The insane.
The forums, I'm not going to start digging through the posts for that information, but it's not exactly a secret or anything, PP is the only purely player driven mechanic in the game, everything else, including the BGS, is influenced by NPCs, and I don't mean the ones you kill.
How about telling the government not to pay G-Fang Plumbers more, but to do something about the group of bandits or to pay a bonus after direct interaction with the bandits?
I know, don't understand the example
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