Great New Article About Elite Dangerous

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this article is a great example of why the game is going to be dead in a year.

there won't be anyone left in open.

some will always play in open, but lets say you are right...... how does that make the game dead?

skyrim is still played by many, payday 2 a MP game with zero PvP gets almost weekly updates without fail (my god its a pita to be honest its constantly patching). Open =/= ED. With or without that single match making option, the game will carry on.

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This is something I just don't understand, you have people here who get butthurt and angry yet they've never got out of solo and did PVP against us and they are the first one to shed a tear and cry out loud like we are terrible people when all we really did was blowing up internet spaceships. There is literally no hard feeling when we blow you up and if you get angry then maybe it's time to take a break or play a better suited game for you.

It's a video game.

out of curiosity do you feel the same when people log on you, or people using hacks in the game... after all its only a game
 
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Porsches. Pfff. Blew one of them off the other day on my 19 year old Fireblade. [big grin] Looked like a 911. The hardest race I've had was with something with SUMO stencilled on it.

Now your talking. However you cannot put bikes down to a mid life crisis, they are a whole life crisis. I know, I've been coping with it for a long time
 
some will always play in open, but lets say you are right...... how does that make the game dead?

skyrim is still played by many, payday 2 a MP game with zero PvP gets almost weekly updates without fail (my god its a pita to be honest its constantly patching). Open =/= ED. With or without that single match making option, the game will carry on.

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out of curiosity do you feel the same when people log on you, or people using hacks in the game... after all its only a game

that's a completely different story but personally I don't get angry, there are cheaters in every video games. While it's frustrating I just move on.
 
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some will always play in open, but lets say you are right...... how does that make the game dead?

skyrim is still played by many, payday 2 a MP game with zero PvP gets almost weekly updates without fail (my god its a pita to be honest its constantly patching). Open =/= ED. With or without that single match making option, the game will carry on.

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out of curiosity do you feel the same when people log on you, or people using hacks in the game... after all its only a game

These guys come out with the quote of 'it's only pixels' and moan about people using their pixels to influence an imaginary economy/politic via group or solo. Go figure.
 
These guys come out with the quote of 'it's only pixels' and moan about people using their pixels to influence an imaginary economy/politic via group or solo. Go figure.

well we would love to play powerplay if it was done better and wasn't so badly designed but in it's current state PP and the BGS is not fun.
 
I've been flying for the SDC banner for nearly 4 months now. I was involved with them before I joined but always had a neutral stance. I do not enjoy the current state of the BGS/PP so if you've been paying attention to my previous posts there isn"t anything new from what I've said in the past. I haven't changed my mind. I don't agree or disagree with what happened with mobius and the recent twitch sniping. I personally don't get involved in these events but I'm not saying I don't find them interesting, funny and amusing.

Many people here do not understand that not everybody in SDC ride the same boat or play the same way. I just want to fly a spaceship and blow other cmdrs.



sigh...

look you think I feel better because I blow up other cmdrs? fine what ever fit your boat seems like you already made your mind on the matter anyway. However let's make something very clear in your little stubborn head. I don't put a tag on people to me it doesn't make any difference what you fly or who you are, I will blow you up if I see you and if I die then that's just part of the game, no hard feeling. Look you can make assumptions all day long and claim what ever you want but at the end of the day if I have fun killing sidewinders or eagles left and right then that's what I'm going to do whether you like it or not.

I think i've been pretty honest about how I play the game so stop saying i'm giving you excuses and dressing it in something else, got it? I'm getting tired of people like you who can't read plain text and try to make thing's more complicated than what they are when all we are doing is blowing up internet pixel spaceships in a video game. I could care less if frontier change the game or not. I would hope or I would love if they could but at the end of the day I have no expectations from them. I have no problem turning off the plug or moving on from this game unlike some people here.

I just want to fly a spaceship and blow other cmdrs, simple to understand.

You are not being honest though are you ?
You posed a question: "look you think I feel better because I blow up other cmdrs?" to which the answer is YES. You confirm this by repeatedly telling us "I just want to fly a spaceship and blow other cmdrs". Not quite the wording I would use but close enough. So - you want to fly a spaceship and blow up ships piloted by a real person not by a computer.
I've no problem with this you understand - but if you say you are honest then be honest - presumably you are not ashamed of feeling better for blowing up CMDRs rather than NPCs ?
 
So are you a faction trying to play in game as claimed earlier or are we now openly saying the only way you can find to have fun is to kill newbies with your much more powerful ship and weapons, regardless of whether it puts people off playing the game as FDev intended, and you don't care for the rest of the game?

Maybe you can heed your own advice and switch off and go play a game that you enjoy most of? Tbh at that point I'd just issue you a refund and save everyone a lot of trouble. There are plenty of other games out there. This is at best an attempt to manipulate and force FDev to change the whole game to suit a very few players by spoiling it for newcomers - why should anyone tolerate that?
 
You are not being honest though are you ?
You posed a question: "look you think I feel better because I blow up other cmdrs?" to which the answer is YES. You confirm this by repeatedly telling us "I just want to fly a spaceship and blow other cmdrs". Not quite the wording I would use but close enough. So - you want to fly a spaceship and blow up ships piloted by a real person not by a computer.
I've no problem with this you understand - but if you say you are honest then be honest - presumably you are not ashamed of feeling better for blowing up CMDRs rather than NPCs ?

Nothing wrong with "blowing" other players who WANT to be "blown". (I wonder if he even knows what he's actually saying here, giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming english isn't his first language). The thing he won't address is the fact that he would prefer to blow players who DON'T want it, or over whom he has a massive advantage.
 
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Blow up whoever you want. Certain actions just point out positive and negative character traits. I can't be bothered to sit in judgement. Not against EULA? Then fine. FD fail to clarify EULA? FD reveal a fundamental organisational flaw and failure of management.

Personally I'd remove hollow square sensor blips. Everyone is solid unless you tick that box that says "I consent to appearing as an immediately identifiable player Commander in the scanner, and understand that certain types of players will attempt to fulfill base primal urges on me as a consequence of this."

Or something like that.

I'd tick that box.

Fly safe. Mostly.
 
the simplest solution IMHO is if and when SDC members try to stretch the EULA outside of what it is, ban the individual players involved... If they breach the rules with regards to re-entering mobius, account ban so all copies of the game they own under that account are no longer playable except for solo mode...

same for ANY player (not just SDC) who breach the terms and conditions of the TOS, the EULA and the Code of Conduct.

Once banned to solo, they then have to request being unbanned and of course the ban could be time dependant or permanent depending on the breach... just let the player know when they are banned, why they are banned and what timeframe they are banned from the other 2 modes for.
 
Yeah, but VR is gonna have to get quite a bit better and I don't think that's part of Frontier's vision for gameplay.

If you wouldn't quote them, I wouldn't even have to see that rubbish. Meh.
"I just want to fly spaceships and blow up other players"
"But they don't want to play with you."
"What they want or not does not matter. I'm a special player , I have more say here and I demand FD to send me other players so I can blow them up. If FD fail to comply to give me my rights, I will hold my breath until they do so."
Not a very healthy attitude in an online game, but the CS championship stream yesterday had 500.000 spectators, the LoL one 240.000 so it doesn't seem to be a PvP issue. PvP is alive and kicking.
 
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This entire "conflict" is a symptom of poor game design, you should be shouting at FD to fix it rather than squabbling amongst one another. Sadly it seems that some of you are so entrenched in your positions that you either refuse to acknowledge it or cannot even see it in the first place, for every well reasoned post in this thread there are multiple that are simply mind numbing.

I don't agree with everything in Robbeh's post but this is the crux. Some of us have been saying this for so long it's ridiculous. Only one group of people is responsible for the broken and exploitable state of this game, and it's not the "pew-pew crowd" and it's not the "carebears." That certain groups of players will make use of broken mechanics to further their preferred choice of play is just human nature. But to continuously sling barbs at "opposing" groups, who are only doing the exact same thing, while ignoring the real root of the problem is futile. You're never going to make these other people go away, or change their style of play, using circular arguments. There's only one group of people who can change the way players interact with this game and by extension with other players. Guess who that group is?

Now before someone comes riding in on their ivory steed, I am not taking anything away from what FD have achieved with ED. As an audio-visual experience it's absolutely stunning, and it has the best arcade space combat of anything I've played in four decades. It's a technical marvel for which the development team should be rightly praised. But as a multiplayer game it has massive, divisive problems that need to be addressed and only FD can address them.

Maybe they are already doing that behind the scenes, but if so we're seeing little in the way of solid feedback to suggest that's the case. All we see is the occasional bit of frantic back pedalling or damage limitation when the exploitation of broken game mechanics or community policy leads to incidents like Mobius or Eravate. Stop addressing the actions, FD, and start addressing the broken game that leads to and permits those actions.

Absolutely right. Indeed I do blame FD, they need to wake up and sort their game out.

Bang on.

PS the original article that began this thread is very good, and unusually technically accurate for a gaming piece aimed in part at non-players of ED. One awkward error aside ("flipped" space stations do not try to kill former allies just because they get too close) I thought it was a balanced and well written item.
 
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