The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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clavain

clavain
clavain said:
One minute, I'll check - in azimuth view at the moment.
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Well holy crap - changed to equatorial grid view from azimuthal, and you will never guess what appears directly over head - Polaris. Makes sense I guess. Still trying to get back down to the horizon, back momentarily.

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Hmm, a bunch of VR trees apparently.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Gypsy12 said:
Something to note here is that WE NEED A TIME. Somehow somewhere there must be a reference to what time Kahina arrived at Cambridge. (Not just time of year) Currently trawling the old news feeds in Sol, but can find a thing (Only goes back to Oct 3301)

Otherwise there is a thousand stars to choose from.

Anyone have more precise data on Kahinas visit to Earth?
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Timing is where the whole Kahina trip to Sol gets a bit weird.

She shows up on Feb 9th, saying she isn't going to be late.
Arrives at Mars High on Mar 6 and/or Mar 9, again saying she isn't going to be late.
On Mar 17, she heads out to Titan.
Back to Mars again, in time to leave on the Mar 20.
Finally hitting Earth sometime between Mar 20 and 27.
Stays on Earth until Apr 02.

So regarding Kahina being on Earth for the Equinox on the 20th, we don't know if she actually made it on time, and if this was the intention of her trip, why was she still at Mars High right up to the 20th?
It certainly doesn't square with her worrying about being late over a month earlier.
 

Gypsy12

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Well, using Azimuth at 22:45 on the 20th March 3301 the closest star to centre is HD 65626 or 54 Camelopardalis. Kahina on her camel huh? Anyhow - I will point out that Kahina did arrive on Earth on the 20th, but it seems there is some confusion when she arrived at Cambridge...

Or am I wrong about that..?
 
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clavain

clavain
And I know you are dying to know what constellation that is - it is Lacerta, aka "Little Cassiopeia": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacerta

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Well, using Azimuth at 22:45 on the 20th March 3301 the closest star to centre is HD 65626 or 54 Camelopardalis. Kahina on her camel huh? Anyhow - I will point out that Kahina did arrive on Earth on the 20th, but it seems there is some confusion when she arrived at Cambridge...

Or am I wrong about that..?
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Looked like HIP 51910 to me in azimuthal grid and zoomed in (don't forget you can zoom right in). Not counting nameless stars.
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Gypsy12 said:
Well, using Azimuth at 22:45 on the 20th March 3301 the closest star to centre is HD 65626 or 54 Camelopardalis. Kahina on her camel huh? Anyhow - I will point out that Kahina did arrive on Earth on the 20th, but it seems there is some confusion when she arrived at Cambridge...

Or am I wrong about that..?
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Galnet:

Lady Kahina is currently being entertained on Earth, where she was greeted by enthusiastically cheering crowds on arrival at the historic Cambridge spaceport before being taken to London to be met by Ambassador Waite.

So she arrives at Cambridge, then goes to London - but Greenwich makes sense for stellar observations...


Being hugely pedantic, we know she LEFT Mars on the 20th, but we have no confirmation of her being on Earth until the 27th.
She did, after all, take a month to get from the entry point to Mars High ;)
 
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Macros Black

Macros Black
clavain said:
Well holy crap - changed to equatorial grid view from azimuthal, and you will never guess what appears directly over head - Polaris. Makes sense I guess. Still trying to get back down to the horizon, back momentarily.

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Polaris seen from Reorte aligned with Riedquat just behind Reorte. Not a direct line, more a general direction.
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Gypsy12

Gypsy12
clavain said:
And I know you are dying to know what constellation that is - it is Lacerta.

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Looked like HIP 51910 to me in azimuthal grid and zoomed in (don't forget you can zoom right in). Not counting nameless stars.
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You did download the extra star catalogues for the program right? Im zoomed way in...

Ahhh. im viewing from Cambridge...
 
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clavain

clavain
Gypsy12 said:
You did download the extra star catalogues for the program right? Im zoomed way in...
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Yup, all nine of them. I'll check again in a minute, I may have zoomed back out. I'll play around with Greenwich and the 20th vs the 27th as well and see if anything interesting shows up. It is difficult without the specific time/location though, as even a couple of hours makes a big difference to what is directly overhead (or on the horizon in a cardinal direction, or whatever). I will stick with 22:45 as the start of the equinox for now.
 
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Gypsy12

Gypsy12
clavain said:
Cambridge at the moment. Will try Greenwich.
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Something is wrong here bud... We are both viewing from Cambridge, but getting different stars...

Just to proof:

Im at Cambridge.

Using a reference of 22:45:00 on the 20.03.3301. Azimuth view switched on.
 
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clavain

clavain
OK, here is a slightly zoomed out azimuthal grid view looking N from the horizon from Royal Observatory Greenwich (which isn't really that much different from Cambridge, just a slight offset or whatever the appropriate astronomical term is). The interesting thing to note in the zoomed out version, is, yup, good old Polaris once more (selected here for fun).

http://imgur.com/bLuwOXC

Edit: And just to really mess with our minds, Cepheus was the King of Ethiopia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheus_(constellation)

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Gypsy12 said:
Something is wrong here bud... We are both viewing from Cambridge, but getting different stars...

Just to proof:

Im at Cambridge.

Using a reference of 22:45:00 on the 20.03.3301. Azimuth view switched on.
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Check your timezone to make sure it is UTC (and not UTC + x or UTC - x). The default seems to be to use your system timezone, and I cannot find a way to change that even when you change locations. So for example my (seemingly unchangeable) timezone is UTC -3, so if I want 22:45 UTC I have to set the time at 19:45.
 
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Cyalope

Cyalope
simulacrae said:
Just for reference ... With the founding of Carthage.... the Phoenician and local Berber religion merged and formed a syncretic tradition which continued for quite a while... Namely the Phoenician Queen Goddess Astarte merged with the Berber Tanit ... and Carthiginian Queens were considered Chief Priestess of Tanit. While we are talking much further down the road (after all the Roman influence) I still imagine the historic "Kahina's" role as high priestess was for Tanit...
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There are very many connections between different mythologies, I believe that without new clue about it, we will only get bogged down in all kinds of tinfoil. That said, Astarte is the equivalent of Inanna / Ishtar and Ariadne. It's things like that, that give the impression of going round in circles.
 

clavain

clavain
{SAS}Stalker said:
It gives me something different every time I look at it.
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It will change depending upon your zoom level (and what star catalogs you have installed, and which star catalog identifiers you have enabled in the settings). Hint: install everything and turn them all on - then it is just zoom (edit: and field of view, see post below) that should change things.

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Han_Zen said:
Can you center that pic around 52deg latitude?I want to see the London horizon.
I think that is where the action is.
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Polaris, dead center at 52 and 0 (N) from Greenwich

Also LBN 606 HII region
 
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