As I pointed out in the OP, I can't recall seeing a poll asking this specific question unbiased. The votes concerning similar topics in this forum I am aware of normally discuss the ED playing modes - open, groups, solo - but not the basic question about what people deem as more important - PvP or PvE - in ED. There might be such a poll, but I have been around since before the release of the game and - as I said - can't remember seeing such a specific and basic poll about this specific question. Hence, me posting the poll.
The unavoidable poll: PvP vs PvE!
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As I pointed out in the OP, I can't recall seeing a poll asking this specific question unbiased. The votes concerning similar topics in this forum I am aware of normally discuss the ED playing modes - open, groups, solo - but not the basic question about what people deem as more important - PvP or PvE - in ED. There might be such a poll, but I have been around since before the release of the game and - as I said - can't remember seeing such a specific and basic poll about this specific question. Hence, me posting the poll.
I don't think a case is proven until it is disproved, since anyone and everyone can make random claims that automatically fulfill themselves until it is challenged, it doesn't make rational sense. If anything the conclusion to be drawn from the forum polls that distinguish PvP players and PvE players is that there is a possibly biased sample space, not that it is representative of the actual in-game population considering that it doesn't require the confirmed purchase and experience within the game to own a forum account and vote in polls.
I did, and I stated what I derived from it.
I think it's clear who is making this a personal issue and I have no interest in having personal debates on this forum.
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As a longtime eve player myself i find it find your stance a bit odd.
If i ever knew a game that relies heavily on player coorporation, both in PvP AND PvE, it's eve. Even more important, both depend on each other.
Indiscriminitly caving each others heads in doesn't make a multiplayer game.
Both, PvE and PvP, should ideally be viable options with a purpose.
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True, asking this question unbiased is rare, now the question is the sample space's bias and what purpose is there in sampling a biased audience.
Fight? I'm a runner, not a fighter.
Yes, that was kind of my point. Any poll is going to be representative of one or another forum, but it only really tells you about the forum, not about the game.
Karl Marx brought it to the point.
When I played First Encounters, back 1991(First Encounters was and still is, a fantastic game!), the game had 3 little mistakes: it looked ugly, it sounded ugly, you where utterly alone. I wished and dreamed about a game where I could met and join other players, playing it for over 3 years. Elite Dangerous now, fixed all those shortcomings. I can see why Frontier still offers the "offline" option. Only folks switching between both options to cheat, to avoid critical game experiences.
We should be all in one boat, the connection between those two modes kills Open play.
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Depends on how the toggle is implemented.
I assume you mean "unfounded" rather than "unfunded"? Assuming you do, then yes of course, that's why I prefaced it with "I wonder". My point really is that this poll only tells you things about the makup of this forum, other forums may be different.
A valiant attempt that works in other MMOs but would instantly destroy the player-pirate aspect of the game (whether you agree with it or not, it is a valid profession).
Earl Grey, and indeed it turned out exactly as suspected, mudslinging and aggression.
Yaffle
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Again folks, just a reminder, we have Hotel California for the never-ending circular and ultimately futile open v solo debate - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=216887
No need for another of those.
No need for another of those.
Not trying to be a prophet, but I think we all know how this thread will turn out.
Yaffle
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You live in hope.
Poor mods, it's times like this I feel for you guys ;-) I can kind of imagine you all in mod HQ... a bell rings... "Oh god, another one has started..."
Ultimately, such a study would be of little value. It'd just be a ego contest and the only thing up for grabs being self-validation. People can imagine that there are hundreds of thousands of invisible PvPers secretly seal-clubbing it up in open, but the simple logistics of the game world dictate that PvP is a rare occurrence outside of a few systems where PvPers congregate either to thump each other's chests or gang up on helpless PvE players and traders. It's so incredibly pointless that I can't imagine there are more people who consider PvP the 'meat' of the game for them as opposed to PvE.
Solo/Group exist for a reason after all.
Solo/Group exist for a reason after all.
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