Is "Save"ing still a legitimate tactic to avoid destruction ?

I KOS people for interdicting me for reasons, it happened just the other day :p


ORLY?


I have been plauged by illegal and legal combat loggers ever since I started pirating in my DBS, yeah laugh if you want, doing it for immersion, the amount of players that start fighting back and then combat log when they can't hit me and their sheilds start taking damage is unbelievable, just make it so that if the player has used offensive modules in the engagement, the 15 sec timer resets every time they take damage and ban the illegal CLers.
 
...just make it so that if the player has used offensive modules in the engagement, the 15 sec timer resets every time they take damage and ban the illegal CLers.

People can build whatever they want. In p2p, players are hosting themselves. When they pull their network cable they are gone, instantly, and only because of a 'network issue'.
 
The fact that CODE and SDC do not invade private groups anymore says it all.
If there was no threat of being banned, you guys would still be doing it.

Thats clear enough for me.

Um... you do realize that the only incident of Code mode invasion was like... early 2015 right? And it was put to a stop not because of any stipulation, but I put forth the agenda to outlaw it in the organization around mid-late 2015?

Oh look, no research again, how surprising.

Also, the fact that you don't hear about SDC private group invasion anymore can simply means they do not announce themselves as SDC anymore. There are plenty of ways to get around the system such as VPN and there are some people in SDC swimming in money so they don't really care about the entry price.

Not saying that it is what they are doing (I'm not SDC so I won't speak for them), but I'm stating that thinking stipulations will stop people from doing what they want to do is naive to say the least.

Seems by your tone, you support invading game modes of people trying not to play with you...I may be mistaken, but that what Im getting.

Hah... maybe one day you'll realize arguing without attaching sentiment and emotion will help you see things no longer as matter of morality but matter of legality.

I don't support mode invasion, as I've stated many times in this thread already and now I've just mentioned that I actively worked against mode invasion.

Disagreeing with something and denying something's legality and practicality are very different things, these mandatory and distinguishing factors are necessary to uphold tolerance and flexibility in societies in general.

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That strikes me as just plain gullible.

It does to me, as well.
 
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People can build whatever they want. In p2p, players are hosting themselves. When they pull their network cable they are gone, instantly, and only because of a 'network issue'.



Alt F4, pull network cable, whatever, ban them, whether it be PvP or PvE, 15 sec log out from game, reset the timer everytime damage is recieved.

I actually don't understand the legal Clers, it's quicker to hi Wake.
 
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Could one of the great legal minds, professionals no less, give me their opinion on this?

http://www.report-it.org.uk/bullying_and_harassment

Would declaring people as on your KoS list for asking about a legal game mechanic count as creating an intimidating environment?

Just checking. Because I think the banning of people for what the UK count as harassment should be a formality.
 
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Could one of the great legal minds, professionals no less, give me their opinion on this?

http://www.report-it.org.uk/bullying_and_harassment

Would declaring people as on your KoS list for asking about a legal game mechanic count as creating an intimidating environment?

Just checking. Because I think the banning of people for what the UK count as harassment should be a formality.

Have fun getting a personal KoS list off a private computer legally.
 
I love this topic!

Cat jumped on my PC, and switched it off.. DOH, KOS for every PvPer in ED! Real tightrope we're walking!
 
Some groups/commanders have a KOS list that is public ;)

And, your point being? They are not hosted on FD servers or infrastructure, nor do they name people so they are identifiable, there is no legal recourse available.

Guess what, stop cheating, now I know some of you think it is a legitimate mechanic when you attack people and find out you are outclassed (including NPCs).
 
Some groups/commanders have a KOS list that is public ;)
Should make the work easier.

Here's another idea - these carebears could remember it's only a game - there's no need to get all salty you didn't get to see a big explosion and upset someone - you got to see them run away tail between their legs - YOU STILL WON, and in a way more so.

And since it's just a game we could come online and say Hey mate, no that's not really on - we get why you did it but you could have escaped in that situation as you so nearly got away - here's what to do next time and don't worry, we want a good fight not the joke of finishing clubbing a half dead seal.

As I said - toxic element, not working together - not helping anyone progress. Complaining everyone combat logs and everyone should be forced to play in open - then delcaring people on their KoS lists pretty much guaranteeing there's another one gone to Mobius or Open.

Big wins :D so many clevers.
 
Don't worry, it's not cheating. They failed to kill you in the time before you logged out, and the countdown is put in there for that sole purpose.

Anyways, you might want to start relocating periodically (once a day or so) because people are going to hunt you down over this one post.
 
FSD reboot/restart should be automatic.... if he'd been watching a timer he'd have kept running

Actually no, scratch that, it's a productive suggestion.
 
And, your point being? They are not hosted on FD servers or infrastructure, nor do they name people so they are identifiable, there is no legal recourse available.

Guess what, stop cheating, now I know some of you think it is a legitimate mechanic when you attack people and find out you are outclassed (including NPCs).

Um i was just mentioning that KOS lists are not always hidden on a "private computer"...

Personally I think its bad to use the 15 second timer to avoid re-buy screens. It is accepted and even promoted as a acceptable way to play the game by the devs! FD have explicitly stated using this tactic is not an exploit or "cheating".

Of course you lose any credibility as a PvPer if you use the 15 second timer to avoid death but i do not know if the OP cares about that anyway...
 
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Could one of the great legal minds, professionals no less, give me their opinion on this?

http://www.report-it.org.uk/bullying_and_harassment

Would declaring people as on your KoS list for asking about a legal game mechanic count as creating an intimidating environment?

Just checking. Because I think the banning of people for what the UK count as harassment should be a formality.

How much do you want to bet any judge would laugh his or her rear off if people make a harassment case out of an in-game KoS list dependent on in-game alias not officially recognized by the publisher company?

This world isn't all roses and butterfly, as far a I'm aware.
 
yes using the 15 second timer is legitimate. It is every bit as legitimate as combat logging by pulling the plug and either way you combat log, you will not be punished by FD.

I know of very few players who differentiate between using the 15 second timer and pulling the plug. Do either, and you are a combat logger to most everyone who cares about combat logging.
 
How much do you want to bet any judge would laugh his or her rear off if people make a harassment case out of an in-game KoS list dependent on in-game alias not officially recognized by the publisher company?

This world isn't all roses and butterfly, as far a I'm aware.
Judge doesn't have to, Frontier manage their ban lists. I think you might find a similar level of hilarity when you try and explain how you should be allowed to carry on in the way you do.

The world is what we make it, and Frontier's galaxy is exactly how they choose it to be - not anyone else. Oh and you're not a legal expert :)
 
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