List of combat loggers has reached 250 recorded loggers, with 322 total logs. Frontier, this is a problem
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It's way more then 300ish combat loggers, those are just the ones posted on reddit... I'v personally encountered at least 100, I've recorded them all. 95% of which were NOT graceful exits... they were power button ejects.
Hell, I've heard people ENCOURAGE it, that tells me it's a problem. People do it to spite, save a rebuy and some even log right when another player says hi. For Gods sake man.
I don't give 2 craps if you log against an NPC, I care if you fight me (yes I've had people interdict me then log when the fight goes the wrong way)! I don't know how it can be addressed, maybe we just need to report grievous loggers. Then maybe have more than 10 cases of clear combat logging for them to get timeout or something, even a credit fine would be enough for some to stop!
I know it seems like a ridiculous thing to some people, but it does need to be addressed in some fasion.
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Hell, I've heard people ENCOURAGE it, that tells me it's a problem. People do it to spite, save a rebuy and some even log right when another player says hi. For Gods sake man.
I don't give 2 craps if you log against an NPC, I care if you fight me (yes I've had people interdict me then log when the fight goes the wrong way)! I don't know how it can be addressed, maybe we just need to report grievous loggers. Then maybe have more than 10 cases of clear combat logging for them to get timeout or something, even a credit fine would be enough for some to stop!
I know it seems like a ridiculous thing to some people, but it does need to be addressed in some fasion.
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In that case I'd call it Karma
Bless .. you ran out of ideas, realise you're wrong, but to remian relevant you shift the goal posts.
Cute.
Let me make it real easy for you to which I suspect you will gain more support (especially from me):
- Remove all the legal menu loggers from your subreddit
- Change the definition of combat logging (as we are adhering to FDs definition, not yours, being they are the authority for ED)
- Request FD "do something" about the combat loggers
- Gather opinions here on the forum to support your request and I can almost guarrantee that everyone will be on your side.
Robert Maynard
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Regarding the 15-second timer, I'd certainly be in favour of significantly increasing it for the player who initiated combat....
Maybe they would be happier PvPers if they would stop making up their own win conditions?
I've somewhat followed the PvP League and it's development and it seems that agreed competition and win conditions is a known concept in the "PvP circles".
Noone brings his 200 rebuy ships to the battle.
2.1 engineering updates will not be allowed for the finals (I doubt Adle's would mind "grinding" that stuff in record time - seems they're already pretty well prepared for the upcoming changes .. their opponents need some breathing room, so as good sportsmen they agree on the common ground).
Now all of a sudden it's open world open PvP and some strut around defining their own win conditions and expect everyone around them to play along? eh..
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Being a SDC member or not should not factor in at all, it is the definition of combat logger.
Actually Combat logging as per Sandro's Definition should enjoy punitive consequences.
for the Menu Log out, you cannot punish them as the rules have not been broken.
Push for the rule to be changes, longer timer etc is fine and encouraged, but not the punishment of those who have not broken any rules.
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100% behind you (for the 95% of your cases I add)
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Yeah, logging out that way is legit, but it's still dirty....
In that case I'd call it Karma
It isn't Karma anytime a thread comes up about player populations in open we get called lazy retards for not policing griefers and a hundred other things FD should be doing instead of us, why do you think nobody can stop griefers legitimately?
Open is worthless if they don't support it, they can have all the good points it currently has without any of the complaints if they just admit they don't give a monkeys and change the model to a PvE open
Group of rabid PvP'ers stomp all over the game and engage in extremely ungentlemanly behaviour.
Same group of rabid PvP'ers then scream when others engage in ungentlemanly behaviour.
The irony. I can't stop laughing at this thread
Same group of rabid PvP'ers then scream when others engage in ungentlemanly behaviour.
The irony. I can't stop laughing at this thread
OK, thanx for link, i missed that.
I focused on it:
So in the conclusion an exit to menu is 'gracefully' way to flee from destruction. I congratulate the logic
If dev claiming a fleeing to menu is OK, in a multiplayer game, then nothing to do here. Right moment for play No Man Sky, Blood and Wine, or Doom.
P.S.
It looks Ziggy you can flee to menu with a clear conscience in everytime you want.
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Liqua is wise, listen to Liqua
Apples and Oranges but please carry on with the misunderstanding of what people are opposing here: NOT the banning of people who cut their internet connection to avoid destruction but the inclusion of people who use the game menu to log out which is perfectly legitimate in a name and shame thread.
And you Liqua, you've been around way too long to believe this
don't blow smoke up his backside even legitimate threads about combat logging get shot down and filled with defenders for the noble tradition of cheating.Nice to see a balanced post.
No action since this was pointed out as a problem in Alpha suggests this wouldn't help either though.
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Hey Troy Mclure!
Don't see the problem myself. Its about the same duration as a high wake, and when preparing a high wake you can use countermeasures and take evasive actions, something that isn't possible whne you exit to the menu. So, if you are going to complain about the duration of the menu logout, you probably should also complain about the high wake mechanism as well
Of course, many of us have seen how even experienced CMDRs sometimes have a problem high waking, and resort to the menu "combat logging"... i believe you know someone who had this particular problem.
By the way, did that particular CMDR make your list of combat loggers?
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The only thing left is to push FD into action regarding the rule breakers.
Whilst they claim they do something it's not evident, or worse - it's not working. (Based on the acedotal evidence of others claiming they're being encouraged to combat log)
Why for only the guy who increased combat? What would that achieve? Apart from maybe some Adle's Armada guys getting a longer log out time for example and make logging through the main menu harder for PvE players.. nevermind good idea, would still like an increase for everyone, whether you initiated combat or not but atleast your idea ain't all bad.
Rinzler o7o7o7
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For the third time, there is a column in the list that specifies what kind of log it was. If you only consider taskkilling to be cheating (like Frontier), sort by taskkill. If you consider both to be cheating, leave the list as-is.
If Frontier wants to look at the list for their purposes, obviously they would disregard the 15s timer logs.
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