List of combat loggers has reached 250 recorded loggers, with 322 total logs. Frontier, this is a problem
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Yaffle
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It is not muddled. You are linking to a site that is naming and shaming. We do the same to list of Player Killers.
Rinzler o7o7o7
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I put him on that list myself!
Yes it does, secret bans have absolutely no impact on cheater populations its long been studied/practiced, player psychology has always dictated that cheating isn't worth the effort if your going to get caught (except for edge cases) you aren't interested as a developer in meeting out justice to the few your interested in less cheaters, you don't get less cheaters by pretending your doing nothing, while actually doing nothing.
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I dunno, I've reported many combat loggers who I know have combat logged at least 5 or 6 times before. We have bets on how fast they will log if you try and even say hello.
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Robert Maynard
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I was trying to suggest a change that would not lead to more players in ships incapable of combat choosing to play in game modes with fewer players....
Rinzler o7o7o7
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I didn't say "muddled", but rather it "muddied" the water a bit regarding information backing up my claim.
Well, that's usually what it means.
All the other online gaming companies are very vocal about their "ban hammer swingerfests".
And reddit is filled with the rage of those .. 5 or so .. "innocent" bannees that have done "nothing wrong" .. until someone brings up videos of them doing exactly what they claim they didn't do.
Good. You seemed very intent on pounding in a puzzle piece with a hammer rather than paying attention to the contours of the outline. Through 10 pages now people have been trying to explain why there's no reason to be sharing a list of people that have logged out via the menu, yet you intentionally turned a blind eye to logic every time.
What is the number of "non menu based" combat loggers?
That might be sufficient, no naming & shaming in numbers
PERCEPTION is key here.
The fact they don't publish stats will be their own undoing (Blizzard do - plenty of video's supporting the fact that stremers were banned live - whilst the problem will never go away with people cheating at least you know Blizzard do something about it) If you do take time to look at that subreddit you will see some commanders have done the combat log (FDs definition) a few times - ergo, the PERCEPTION is that it's not working.
Anonymise the stats and publish them - take a public stance and announce "cheaters will not be tollerated" as right now it's a joke. (Hence the heat in this thread and similar)
They're all the same aren't they.
I forgot who it wasm but recently we had a poster claim: "I never Combat Log!" Cue video of him combat logging. "That was a long time ago, and only once, is that all you got HAHAHAHA".
Gawd I love the internet [heart]
Robert Maynard
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If your contention is that Frontier is doing nothing with regard to punishment of players who Combat Log then I'll have to agree to disagree on that point.
Robert. In that game at now everyone can succesfully flee by high wake. High wake is 15 seconds.
Menu-exit should not be more efficient way to flee than high wake, because this is game about starships, not relogging. At now you are allowed to flee by relogging (because this is most efficient) and to make money by relogging (Robigo), because this also is most efficient. Even if you want to have a better rank, the most efficient ways is, guess what? Yes, relloging.
This game should name Elite: Relog, because every activity, ranking, making money, and even combat (15 seconds delay approved (sic!) by devs) are more efficient than playing. I can log and relog to my Windows, i do not need Elite for this.
Increasing timeout to over 45 seconds to everyone sounds reasonable. It just make high-wake more efficient. Playing instead of relogging - that how it should works or i am wrong?
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Not sure what exactly you are trying to tell me there - you seem to be against "self-defined win conditions" but I have no idea whether "to the death" is that self-defined you are criticising, or whether it is "if the other ship flees, I have won".
I've found T7s and T9s log at roughly the same speed followed by shieldless Cutters.
Group of rabid PvP'ers stomp all over the game and engage in extremely ungentlemanly behaviour.
Same group of rabid PvP'ers then scream when others engage in ungentlemanly behaviour.
The irony. I can't stop laughing at this thread
Also: the game is ruined!!!1 because they have logged 250 or 322 "combat logs" while apparently including logout to the menu. Anyone want some extra storm into their tea?
Hi Robert, is this just conjecture or do you have any evidence to support this statement?
Change that to any "Wanted" player. That would work much more readily. (and probably be more popular)
Robert Maynard
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