Jesus, I didn't think it could be worse than I already thought. I stand corrected.
Powerplay Powerplay "meeting" with FD
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Jesus, I didn't think it could be worse than I already thought. I stand corrected.
Careful with naming and shaming, I got a post deleted in this thread earlier today for saying something similar.
I find this whole thread amusing, FD all ready talks to leaders of the giant BGS groups, but for some reason its a sin to talk to the leaders of the PP groups?
So for those of you who don't know, Jezza is just trying to stir the pot.
Please just let this thread die.
I kindly refer you back to my responses back on page 3 of this thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=260975&page=3&p=4031859&viewfull=1#post4031859
It's just not the case that there has been "zero word" from the organizers. It's that you're ignoring every thing we say. You're so intent on being outraged that you aren't even dealing with the facts any more, and you have started to impugn our character and intentions despite already having all of the information you need to know that what you are saying is not true. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are not consciously lying, but have instead just seriously lost the plot.
A group of people got together, setting aside their differences as mutual enemies to worry together about the effects of the Cycle 53 bugs. From out of that conversation came the idea of contacting Zac as a group, rather than individually. We then decided we should make sure to get one person from each faction's planning/leadership teams to broaden our perspective. Nothing more sinister than that happened. As someone already pointed out in the thread, it's little more than a glorified bug report. All of this fury and talk about legitimacy and representation, etc., etc... it's all over nothing. It's beyond ridiculous.
Can we please just let this die already?
I'm so wondering would happen at the end of the cycle if Patreus was to stay in turmoil. Either the servers would die or Patreus would get screwed big time.
Good question. It's been explicitly stated as a bug but it hasn't been fixed. We don't know what will happen.
If anyone, Frontier should listen to me about Powerplay. I have only played this game in the Elite franchise and I am an old fart, so I don't harbor any nostalgia to cloud my vision. Further, after reading about the whole system it's clear to me that the whole thing is a complete waste of my time and does little more than paint a target on the player's back, while also limiting their movement around the bubble. The whole system actively detracts from the game. So... why would I want to use that, at all?
So what would I say to them?
I dunno, can't say that I give a hoot!
So what would I say to them?
I dunno, can't say that I give a hoot!
So. Meeting delayed.
We tick to another cycle.
The data (and true state) is ever more divergent from where it should be. A rolling lie.
Powerplay was dead at last cycle tick. It's no more dead now. Just dead. You can't turn a 0 into a 1 without some input.
Thing is, FD have left it in a Zombie state. Yup, Bela Lugosi's dead. Bela is dead.
On topic "Jezzadramarama"
We tick to another cycle.
The data (and true state) is ever more divergent from where it should be. A rolling lie.
Powerplay was dead at last cycle tick. It's no more dead now. Just dead. You can't turn a 0 into a 1 without some input.
Thing is, FD have left it in a Zombie state. Yup, Bela Lugosi's dead. Bela is dead.
On topic "Jezzadramarama"
The fix for the preparation problem was bad. But adding another fix now would be even worse. Because, exactly as you say, the current state has moved away from what it could have been.
There is just one thing to do now: accept the current situation and move on. The longer people stay in denial, the harder it will be to accept it.
Good morning from Australia we here as well as the rest of the southern hemisphere and the states are too far away to attend anything, i would like to make one observation you lot take this all too seriously it,s just a game get some perspective if what happens in this game actually effects your real life you have bigger problems than Power-play. I,ll give you a bit of mathematical fact if you have spent 3000+ hours playing this game that is approximately 1% of your entire waking life think about that. Far from an achievement to be proud of.
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Yes, by all means let's have this meeting in a large stadium with free admission so anyone in the world can attend. That way, the actual publishers of the game won't have any say as to who can attend their alleged meeting and more ignorant self-important twits can scream at them about how they think the game should be designed. [wacko]
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PowerPlay Big Brainstorming Meeting, June 2016
I agree 100% but at the same point I don't even care anymore. It simply took way too long with PP. :/
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Now if you want to talk about closed doors and influencing development of Elite... That's a good place to start.
I tease mostly. I know backers paid for that right. Though I wish I had access to be quite honest.
Thing is, the DDF discussions are archived and available to read for anyone who wants to look at them.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=36
If you check my back history, you'll see I've argued the exact same thing that I have here previously, but regarding the skype conversations frontier has with the player group 'elite'.
But the problem is, this isn't the real world. It's a game. My concerns, as are a few other of the few detractors who are writing here, is Why should such a discussion need confidentially clauses in the first instance?
I agree. I walked away from Powerplay when I realised I was spending 1hr every morning before work updating spreadsheets and drafting orders for the group I was with regarding where to undermine next, week in, week out.
Yeah I kind of lost hope for powerplay too, the main thing I'm worried about is these people pushing their pro-powerplay agenda onto the devs. I've seen some really terrible ideas proposed like I mentioned before, which would ruin the game for non-powerplayers.
My guess is to stop rumours of features that may or may not happen causing the usual uproar on the forum.
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The conversation apparently isn't about implementing changes to game mechanics though, it's about highlighting issues inherent with Powerplay.
If anything transcripts or the ilk would lessen the usual uproar (by showing any change wasn't an idea that sprang from these discussions) than worsen the usual forum out cries.
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There is always going to be uproar, drama and 'salt'. No matter what FD, the Shadow Cabal of Evil Illuminatus™®, Jezzas or the Silent Majority™ say or do it shall be so, until the end of Elite (depending on your views is tomorrow, this year or never).
I'm just depressed that even trying to help is shot down instantly.
I'm just depressed that even trying to help is shot down instantly.
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Rubberboots has pointed out the purpose of the meeting and the fact that the goal is not to influence future mechanics or make any kind of requests to future functionality. A fact that all the naysayers seem to ignore in their paranoid delusions. I'm sure the group that are going to the meeting are all reading this thread and laughing maniacally while twisting the ends of the moustaches as they think up new ways to ruin Elite for everyone.
As a way of making sure that no one can influence FDev on future functionality I'm calling for an end to all bug reports - it's not fair that a single player can push their own agenda on FDev without consulting me. This is effectively what you guys are calling for, the meeting it to present a bug report as a group to give it more weight. Shame on you all. These are some of the people that selflessly give their time to organising groups and managing the data. As well as attending inter-power meeting to head off wars and the like. All for no reimbursement. As for self-appointed, these guys didn't get voted in and can behave as they like for 4 years with no recourse, they have to do what they say they will every day. They can be removed from power at the drop of a hat, you think it a privilege... I think it's a huge amount of hard work with very little thanks. You should all be thanking them for their efforts, not castigating them as they don't represent you... everyone needs to get a grip.
The way you have all acted with your self entitlement make me sick.
As a way of making sure that no one can influence FDev on future functionality I'm calling for an end to all bug reports - it's not fair that a single player can push their own agenda on FDev without consulting me. This is effectively what you guys are calling for, the meeting it to present a bug report as a group to give it more weight. Shame on you all. These are some of the people that selflessly give their time to organising groups and managing the data. As well as attending inter-power meeting to head off wars and the like. All for no reimbursement. As for self-appointed, these guys didn't get voted in and can behave as they like for 4 years with no recourse, they have to do what they say they will every day. They can be removed from power at the drop of a hat, you think it a privilege... I think it's a huge amount of hard work with very little thanks. You should all be thanking them for their efforts, not castigating them as they don't represent you... everyone needs to get a grip.
The way you have all acted with your self entitlement make me sick.
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