UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

[Cometborne]

Amazing, thanks. By data you mean small/large data caches?

No, normal exploration data. Once you have unlocked Farseer, you will get an "Universal Cartographics" menu option in their bases, where you can sell your exploration data just like at any other station. You get the same payout and rank increase, but also increase your standing with the engineer.

The same definitely applies to Martuuk (tested), and most likely also to Palin (untested, not unlocked yet). You might have to log out and log in for the menu option to appear after unlocking the engineer.

Other engineers can be boosted by other means, like bounty vouchers, combat bonds, trading, etc. Check INARA for the details.

 

[woodhouse]

Reading a bunch of files defeats the whole purpose of playing the game.

Not much more than reading the TV guide spoils watching TV.

 

[Walt Kerman]

[video=youtube;MHYL_RGIAfI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHYL_RGIAfI[/video]

Very very cool - I love this

An excellent way to appeal to Canonneers.

As Pat says - the Canonn are power neutral in all ways, but everyone is free to support whomever they wish - if this video helps persuade people to support the Border Coalition in the Rise to Power, then so be it

Its working on me

this is awesome!!!

I've been a solitair pilot for too long. done.

Great, well if individual pilots are persuaded, we have a discord leading up to the games and I have a special tag for the Canonn, some of you are already there!

https://discord.gg/0xjBNH8XrHoWwAIJ

 

[chuci]

No, normal exploration data. Once you have unlocked Farseer, you will get an "Universal Cartographics" menu option in their bases, where you can sell your exploration data just like at any other station. You get the same payout and rank increase, but also increase your standing with the engineer.

The same definitely applies to Martuuk (tested), and most likely also to Palin (untested, not unlocked yet). You might have to log out and log in for the menu option to appear after unlocking the engineer.

Other engineers can be boosted by other means, like bounty vouchers, combat bonds, trading, etc. Check INARA for the details.

oh I see, ok so I shouldn't just offload them at the first station I find in populated space then? gotcha.

 

[MadDogMurdock]

I didn't even remember a clock in Elite, but I take your word for it.
Rep for you, when I get home.

There was a date/time on the status page - hazy memories but I'm pretty sure.

 

[woodhouse]

Share away, get banned - not my problem

I didn't know about this rule, and certainly didn't expect there to be a rule, when I said "I will reveal what I feel like revealing".

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

I have several possible Barnacle-friendly worlds to report as a result of my excursion this weekend to the Running Man Nebula. Additionally, I can add to my recent post about newly-named systems in the area ( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...arnacles-amp-More-Thread-6-The-Canonn/page578 ).
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As a result of my visit, I also delivered two large data survey caches to the Canonn Institute; hopefully these may help to shed some light on events in the region. The current CG in Garoku has taken delivery of the exploration data itself. I found no Earth-like Worlds however I encountered one Ammonia World (Spirograph Sector ZU-X b1-0 3).
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Note that my own surface flybys were very limited as it was my intention to find suitable worlds for further study, not engage in a time-consuming attempt to survey the worlds I encountered. (This was partly due to the CG but also because I've been feeling close to burning out and could do with a break, not to mention catching up on some real-life things I need to do during the next couple of weeks).
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possible Barnacle-friendly worlds:

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NGC 1999 Sector PY-R b4-0 1 (temp: 394K; gravity: 0.07g; 32.7% metal)
Running Man Sector WF-N b7-0 E 1 (temp: 250K; gravity: 0.33g; 33.2% metal)
Amo B 1 (temp 484K(is this too hot to be considered?); gravity: 0.22g; 32.8% metal)
Popovich A 1 (temp: 428K; gravity: 0.14g; 32.8% metal); A2 and A3 colder but still possibly Barnacle-friendly (no screenshots right now but I can check next time I'm in-game).
Laplace A 6 (temp: 422K; gravity 0.27g; 32.9% metal)
Laplace A 7 (temp: 347K; gravity 0.24g; 32.9% metal)
Laplace B 2 (temp: 245K(is this too cold to be considered?); gravity: 0.16g; 32.9% metal)
V380 Orionis C 1 (temp: 325K; gravity: 0.40g(is this too high to be considered?); 32.8% metal); This system is at the heart of the NGC 1999 Nebula.
Spirograph Sector GH-U b3-0 A 1 (temp: 279K; gravity: 0.10g; 33.0% metal)

additional newly-named systems:

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Feoktistov (HMC and icy worlds with one landable icy moon)
Cassini (two HMC landables, otherwise only gas giants with icy moons (some landable))
Wilson (icy worlds and one HMC, no moons or landables)
Lagrange (icy worlds around distant secondary, all landable)
Eratosthenes (one HMC landable, several gas giants with icy landable moons); 1 degraded ss (threat 0)
Laplace (numerous HMC landables, inc. several with Barnacle-friendly temperatures: A6,A7,B2, circumbinary gas giants with landable icy moons); 1 degraded ss (threat 0, large dss cache collected)
Labyrinth (gas giants with icy moons, some landable, one icy world)
Walker (3 stars and one gas giant only)
Garnow (5 stars only)
Mitchell (1 star only)
Titov (1 star and 1 HMC only)

 

[two quiet suns]

Does the fact that Barnacles have two have two nektonic (active swimming) larval stages mean our Space Barnacles are related to UA's and Unknown Probes?

 

[crushdepth]

Personally think you'll be wasting your time but by all means have a go. I can't speak for the ice additions from FD but the Barnacles show up as 'organic' structures so if we take that to mean organic in the biological sense they want nice temperatures. AFAIK everything found so far has been at around 293K give or take (i.e standard temperature (but not pressure, obvs). So I've been looking for heavy metal planets (however that's phrased) of the right temperature and then been looking for discolouration of areas and then canyons in said areas. So far for me it's worked once and in my little sojourn I have maybe been down to 30-50 of such planets now (i.e. from when I left Pleaides on my way to California, my discovery and now since) and however many hundreds of systems inbetween. So I've found plenty of candidates but nothing, however most of my searching post California hasn't been in a nebula.

Which brings me onto a bugbear. I'm heading back to known space now so I can get an FD upgrade (I'm at 20yl jumprange in my python; it's getting tedious). I fit the criteria for an engineer but I need meta-alloy. If barnacles aren't handing it out anymore can I buy it at Merope? Somewhat anxious about coming back only to be killed by the worlds worst NPC...

You can get FSD upgrades from Elvira instead, who you unlock with Soontill relics, which you can just buy from market (forget which system but a search in here will turn it up).

 

[two quiet suns]

I am just thinking the UA stage couldbe the Cyprid Stage - looking for a place to settle and become a barnacle, so maybe there is a Nauplius stage, a more mobile stage.. Finding one of those wouldlead us closer to their origin.

 

[CookieJarviz]

I am just thinking the UA stage couldbe the Cyprid Stage - looking for a place to settle and become a barnacle, so maybe there is a Nauplius stage, a more mobile stage.. Finding one of those wouldlead us closer to their origin.

Well Im pretty sure there planted... like with a seed maybe? I dont remember but it was a couple of pages back someone said there is some sort of seed or something. So who would be planting them? And what kind of race are they? Did the original elite have anything like these?

 

[Han_Zen]

There was a date/time on the status page - hazy memories but I'm pretty sure.

Very hazy - like a black and white movie from a different time in a different universe.....

 

[MadDogMurdock]

Please observe a moment's silence for Bob the Keelback.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...e-Keelback-without-shields-but-with-a-mission!

A life that was all too brief but an inspiration to all who wonder what else is out there to see

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Personally think you'll be wasting your time but by all means have a go. I can't speak for the ice additions from FD but the Barnacles show up as 'organic' structures so if we take that to mean organic in the biological sense they want nice temperatures. AFAIK everything found so far has been at around 293K give or take (i.e standard temperature (but not pressure, obvs). So I've been looking for heavy metal planets (however that's phrased) of the right temperature and then been looking for discolouration of areas and then canyons in said areas. So far for me it's worked once and in my little sojourn I have maybe been down to 30-50 of such planets now (i.e. from when I left Pleaides on my way to California, my discovery and now since) and however many hundreds of systems inbetween. So I've found plenty of candidates but nothing, however most of my searching post California hasn't been in a nebula.

Which brings me onto a bugbear. I'm heading back to known space now so I can get an FD upgrade (I'm at 20yl jumprange in my python; it's getting tedious). I fit the criteria for an engineer but I need meta-alloy. If barnacles aren't handing it out anymore can I buy it at Merope? Somewhat anxious about coming back only to be killed by the worlds worst NPC...

Regarding upgrading your FSD: you can buy a meta-alloy from Darnielle's Progress in Maia to gain access to Felicity; although they are not cheap you only need one. Elvira asks you to bring her 3 Soontill Relics, which you get from the opposite side of the bubble to her in Ngurii (Cheranovsky City). Both of these Engineers can craft grade 5 FSDs and both accept exploration data to raise your rank with them; their skills are different when it comes to their secondary specialisations, with Felicity favouring thrusters (she can craft up to grade 3) and Elvira favouring shields (up to grade 3, although she can also do grade 2 thrusters). I would caution you to be careful of the gravity when visiting Elvira: she's based on a world with 1.2g, as opposed to 0.09g for Felicity.
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Interesting what you say about how many worlds you've visited with good conditions for Barnacles but no luck finding them. How many of those worlds were in nebulae or the sectors named after those nebulae? I suspect that they are to be found only in certain nebulae and not general space, even between the Pleiades and the California Nebula and Witch Head. This was why I visited the Running Man this weekend to look for candidates - I'm suspicious of those nebulae surrounded by permit-locked systems but which are still accessible. The renaming of systems out there only makes me think that there might be something more to come (although it is not clear to me why some of these systems were chosen - a couple have candidates for terraforming, plentiful mineral resources and even worlds with Barnacle-friendly conditions but most do not and some do not even have planets).

 

[Edd Jordan]

On my way to bubble nebula just looks different to any other. i think if Probes are looking for us then i would think they'd be in the bubble already at secret bases.uu

ps

Only 6 star systems in bubble nebula i will search all of them

over

 

[Sunleader]

Are Barnacles Found on a certain Type of World?
On my last trip the only good finds were a Metal World which gave me lods of Cadmium Selenium Vanadium etc etc.
And an System with two Gas Giants Water based Life and one Ammonia Life Gas Giant.

Something I should look out for when I am out there ?

 

[chuci]

Interesting what you say about how many worlds you've visited with good conditions for Barnacles but no luck finding them. How many of those worlds were in nebulae or the sectors named after those nebulae? I suspect that they are to be found only in certain nebulae and not general space, even between the Pleiades and the California Nebula and Witch Head. This was why I visited the Running Man this weekend to look for candidates - I'm suspicious of those nebulae surrounded by permit-locked systems but which are still accessible. The renaming of systems out there only makes me think that there might be something more to come (although it is not clear to me why some of these systems were chosen - a couple have candidates for terraforming, plentiful mineral resources and even worlds with Barnacle-friendly conditions but most do not and some do not even have planets).

Thanks for the advice re: the engineers. Take me with a pinch of salt with regards to the planets, when I find them I'll look at 2 sites at most typically before moving on. Definitely not more than 20 or so minutes at any given planet and the California discovery was a case of 'that planet fits > that topography looks nice > oo barnacles':- I may not have even found them if I'd approached the canyon from the other end. At this stage I suppose there simply isn't enough data. Convince everyone to fill out a google spreadsheet of every candidate ever however...

 

[CMDR Corlas]

On a different note, does anyone have a timeline for which sectors started permit locked, and which ones gained a permit lock/we noticed it/it was bugfixed to be locked?

I am wondering if there is a pattern to the locks; if we can tease some new insights out of our known unknowns...

 

[vinnieboJ]

i insist:

there is something strange in the eagle nebula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTrMPWjg3Q0&feature=youtu.be

these stars are in strange positions

a glitch/bug ?
intentional ?

it seems to me like a message of some kind, like a DNA code or a word composed by some alien runes.

i am very tempted to go there... but 8000 yl.. it's a looooong trip.

as a matter of fact i am somewhat on my way there. I noticed the strange star placement as well as i was planning my way to Sig A. gonna pop by and see what is what. barnacles?

 

[Jmanis]

On a different note, does anyone have a timeline for which sectors started permit locked, and which ones gained a permit lock/we noticed it/it was bugfixed to be locked?

I am wondering if there is a pattern to the locks; if we can tease some new insights out of our known unknowns...

So, I was under the impression that *before* a bunch of the permit lock regions disappeared (can't remember which patch it happened in, maybe Wings?), the Barnard's Loop sector (as well as Horsehead Nebula) were permit-locked. Barnard's loop sector isn't permit locked anymore.

Unfortunately my google-fu is weakened by the fact that every man and his dog talks about "Barnard's Loop Region Permit Lock" these days :/

Just curious also, are there any systems where Barnacles have been found besides Merope/Pleione that actually reside inside a nebula, or have they all been "around" the nebula? Just because the bunch of sectors permit-locked around Barnard's loop would be good candidates for searching for barnacles there... although I think not everything is permit locked around BL?

Also still running with the idea that Merope/Pleione are outliers to what we're looking for. Could just be confirmation bias but the things that don't fit to-date are:
- Merope or Pleione / Not Merope or Pleione
- Inside Nebula / Not Inside Nebula
- Variable Rock+Metal content / 66% Metal 33% Rock +/- 1%
- Volcanism / No Volcanism (I *could* be wrong on that one, don't have all info)
- MB said these were harder to find / MB didn't say anything about these^

Other stats are variable. This doesn't rule out confirmation bias... we're having luck finding them in out-of-nebula planets with those stats, so we keep doing it. If someone found a barnacle literally *inside* the Witch Head / California nebula (not just the sector) it's one strike against the idea that these aren't part of the typical model. I get the feeling by discovering the Merope/Pleione ones first, we applied our own confirmation bias and defined search criteria that fit them. But now they aren't starting to fit the rest of the pattern.

Unfortunately I'm not the one to look for them as frankly ^ the difficulty of finding a barnacle to begin with, which was literally just fly around til you stumble on them, and therefore equal for all barnacles. The fact it was mentioned the Merope one was a "harder to find" one doesn't sit right one bit with me.