Don't bother giving these people advice, they don't want to learn, they want the AI to simply sit in front of them and explode in pretty colors. They don't actually want to learn and improve because its too hard for them. Just ignore them and move on.
If it brings nothing new and worthwhile, then do something else! Simple as...
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I kitted out a shieldless cobra with no engie upgrades and I went off to Sothis tonight for the first time, I got absolutely bored rigid going about collecting stuff and driving for hours in an SRV for the engies.
I put on up to lvl 3 upgrades all over my corvette, I cant really see much difference.
I think 3/4 of the player base are in Sothis area. I went back and forwards doing data missions about 5 times, got bored, no interdiction's at all. I took more damage landing on a pad than anything else.
So I took 1 snakey snake 3m'ish mission back about 400ls away, had 1 elite DBE interdiction, lost 20% hull, that's it.
I believe they are doing a lot on the server side everyday and fiddling with the NPC ai, we just don't get told much, probably why no dev update this week. A lot of meetings going on in FD and probably some heated debates.
I put on up to lvl 3 upgrades all over my corvette, I cant really see much difference.
I think 3/4 of the player base are in Sothis area. I went back and forwards doing data missions about 5 times, got bored, no interdiction's at all. I took more damage landing on a pad than anything else.
So I took 1 snakey snake 3m'ish mission back about 400ls away, had 1 elite DBE interdiction, lost 20% hull, that's it.
I believe they are doing a lot on the server side everyday and fiddling with the NPC ai, we just don't get told much, probably why no dev update this week. A lot of meetings going on in FD and probably some heated debates.
What is this? Salt about salt? You a salty sea dog, mate, that's totally meta-saline.
Absolute rubbish it's an on going issue. How is MP an "issue" when every other game in existence pretty much does it perfectly fine? It's unbelievable it's in the shoddy state it's in right now and they had to add "Wings" like it was some marvel of the universe or something. They even boast (lol) about it in their list of "Expansions" we had through the first season like they just invented it or something. It's so lame it's laughable but also incredibly frustrating. Just admit you don't know how to code MP!
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Did anyone stop to think passed..."multicrew"? So I'm in my ship and I pick you up - what exactly are you going to do in the co-pilots chair? Manage the pips? Sit in a turret? There's not enough to do on your own let alone another crew member and going by the half hearted, unfinished products we've had so far, this will be another one.
You'll get your own seat in the cockpit, and you'll be in control of at least five buttons...
That's five whole buttons?
Tell me more about these buttons; are some illuminated?
Head of Safety. Five buttons. I'm in!
This is the worrying thing isn't it...
The Engineers has simply rebadged exactly what we've been doing for the last 18 months. ie: Now it sprinkles Materials randomly through the old gameplay for us to pick up.
So 2.2 will allow us to do the same gameplay as we've been doing for the past 18 months, now with an extra fighter to hand.
And 2.3 will allow us to do the same gameplay as we've been doing for the past 18 months, now with a group of CMDRs on a single ship.
Just imagine if the development time for "The Engineers" had implemented some gameplay that 2.2 and 2.3 could have utilised? eg: Convoy escort/protect missions, ideally with Wing support and/or NPC wing craft you could jsut instruct attack this/defend that/retreat. Straight away, in 2.1 you'd have that new gameplay to enjoy. And then with 2.2 and 2.3 those new mechanics could then be employed within it to. eg:-
- In 2.2, you could instruct your main craft what to do (defend this!), while you do something else in your fighter.
- In 2.3, a CMDR (multi-crew) could be instructing the NPC Wingmen what to do.
Add to this, those same missions/mechanics could have also been used in Powerplay/CGs maybe?
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It's weird to read all these posts about tedium and not enough to do because many of us have been screaming this since day 1, that the game needed more depth to it and back before any updates were released there was a whole crowd saying how "perfect" the game was - at 1.0! This is exactly what many people feared that if FD kept on going down this road, it was going to spell disaster for the game. With all the negativity that this patch has caused with even more grind and then the complaints about the way too difficult AI (coupled with the decision to include AI with modded weapons) so people are now saying they're too scared to even launch, it's about time they hired a lead game developer who knows what they're doing before they release the next massive grindfest and kill the game for good.
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This is a dev team of 1 guy, all by himself.....
[video=youtube;Kti6jlpKFIU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLmfwphtkQOc64s6uyIhBBMNRZo4Oqa8TN&v=Kti6jlpKFIU[/video]
That's problem created, not problem solved.
You are saying if I get a reward of 2 tons of Modular connectors, that I know I need for an Engineer mod (longer FSD jump range) but don't yet have one material, your solution is I should throw the commodity away? How does that solve any problem? That just loses any and all progress I just made, especially when some of these mission reward cargos are rare. We need a way to store these items off-ship.
Problem 2. Assuming I have all the materials needed for the mod blueprint, I then cannot take the ship I want upgraded to the engineer unless I buy a cargo rack for it and I cannot do that without swapping to the ship that doesn't have a cargo rack without discarding the cargo. Now need to do mission again (assuming it is even available).
There are gaping holes in the Engineers game mechanic right now that can only be worked around, by only ever working on one blueprint at a time that requires commodities and getting them last, after all required materials. And having cargo racks on every ship.
Without the means to "hand in" commodities to the engineers prior to blueprint completion or a storage mechanic that is off-ship, there are problems. Throwing stuff away is a setback, not a solution.
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What he means is that nothing required for crafting should take up cargo space. That's how I read it.
Just uninstall Horizons - 1.6 all the way, baby!
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In FE2 you picked up a passenger. If you didn't have a cabin installed when you got to the other end you were scratching your head why you had a ton of frozen meat instead (ROFL - loved that about FE2). Now on the way you might get attacked by someone after that contact but the poster answering you is saying they'll be more complex but how?
What is in the game right now to support anything more complex and what else is there to do with them other than deliver them from point A to point B with some tiny variation. Given they way things have been developed, I fully expect "passengers" to be half baked.
Additional: Thinking more about it, you're going to need cabin space so expect a new module or 2 and how is that going to help you collect materials for Engineers? Swap the cargo rack for cabin space and...... say goodbye to upgraded ENG modules.
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Instead building upon the game there is constant fixing, adjusting and changing basic mechanics. Seems like you do not think ahead, validate design before coding.
Galaxy is big, make those alien races finally and give them those super weapons instead equipping every single pirate with the high tech upgrades.
I really wish the 'fair' play would return, and auto scaling enemies to your rank/ship would be gone.
It's like a Bethesda game, no matter where you go, you always find enemies scaled to your level. This makes game shallow and boring once you figure this out.
Galaxy is big, make those alien races finally and give them those super weapons instead equipping every single pirate with the high tech upgrades.
I really wish the 'fair' play would return, and auto scaling enemies to your rank/ship would be gone.
It's like a Bethesda game, no matter where you go, you always find enemies scaled to your level. This makes game shallow and boring once you figure this out.
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Sorry....
This is Powerplay all over again.
A messy onerous design is created. It frustrates the players, so it's made "less annoying" by simply trying to "reward" CMDRs more/expose them less to it.
It does nothing to address the core design issue, the inane cynical design, but simply tries to throw a cheap fix out in order to make the problem go away.
Infact, the thought of even MORE UNITS getting spawned for example in bounty hunting hits me as just making it even more annoying. Even more spam!
Unsurprisingly, I'd much prefer The Engineers to simply step away from this cantankerous overzealous design, by the more laid back approach I proposed here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ole-level-of-faff-out-with-very-minor-changes
This is Powerplay all over again.
A messy onerous design is created. It frustrates the players, so it's made "less annoying" by simply trying to "reward" CMDRs more/expose them less to it.
It does nothing to address the core design issue, the inane cynical design, but simply tries to throw a cheap fix out in order to make the problem go away.
Infact, the thought of even MORE UNITS getting spawned for example in bounty hunting hits me as just making it even more annoying. Even more spam!
Unsurprisingly, I'd much prefer The Engineers to simply step away from this cantankerous overzealous design, by the more laid back approach I proposed here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ole-level-of-faff-out-with-very-minor-changes
So how does making it easier, making it easier and making it easier make it more rewarding? Maybe the gameplay itself should be designed in the first place to be so? Strangely just loading the dice so we throw nicer numbers is not "more rewarding" IMHO.
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Pretty impressive for 1 person.
I might look into this game. Been looking for other space exploration games to play.
NeilF is right, rather than wasting time and resources to create unique new gameplay (which are really bad by the way) like powerplay or engineers that are isolated from one another, they should rather focus on improving already great gameplay's and ally them together to create even better gameplay and interactions.
Get rid of the RNG, stop creating useless and random mechanics, and start working on the true core of Elite -> missions, basic professions bounty hunter, traders, pirates, explorers, smugglers...
Stop wasting our time and your time and begin to create some usefull stuff.
Get rid of the RNG, stop creating useless and random mechanics, and start working on the true core of Elite -> missions, basic professions bounty hunter, traders, pirates, explorers, smugglers...
Stop wasting our time and your time and begin to create some usefull stuff.
Well, there is this tourist thing.
It could of course be something funny.
But as things have developed, I fear that tourist-missions will be much like slavery-missions; only legal.
What are the tourists to do, once at their destination?
Just look at some pretty planet?
Most suggestions included nothing but pretty pictures of this.