Minonian
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Not by law, but be honest! To get 1.2 M signature, just within one day, that's something what you can't ignore, and simply sweep under the rug.
General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit
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Did you really not get it the first time? He is leader of an anti-immigration party, he is not some king of king of "Holland". Any why do you keep saying Holland rather than Netherlands anyway, are you a little behind of the times, or do you expect Holland to break away from the Netherlands?
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"Holland is a region and former province on the western coast of the Netherlands."
Minonian
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See above. It's just too strong to make it go away and not act, not accept it. About your home resilience? I think you don't know what it means when a rift like this opens.
Edit; But we learned it in the hard way.
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You are trolling then , as when you say you are wrong don't believe the newspapers, then can't provide you own source of info when asked twice (in fear of my reply). You say that to badger people or troll.
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Can anyone sign this online petition, ie from other countries?
Yaffle
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You could try, but I think they require a UK postcode.
you do know that the UK referendum was an internal opinion poll with no effect on UK or EU policies?
not the UKs fault if all the greedy stock holders wanna try and get a good deal by playing the markets. they played a game, maybe not remembering we are still a full (and paid up)member of the EU, with the same rights, and nothing in the UK or EU has changed in policies or law.
(yeah, we have paid up, show sum respect EU!, trying to kick us while were down and still in the EU , still one of your members... is this how you treat member that do do what you want?)
But now the EU want to get rid us us fast, so that the people that play with the market dose not F-up the EU. Why should the UK have to take the hit for greedy a-holes trying to cash in on an internal opinion poll.
where is the support from the EU on helping us exit (supporting our panniced market), and setting up deals for when we leave? aren't we still part of the EU... do we lose the right because we want to leave, even though we are paying in still? i think the UK lawyers are gonna have a field-day
like said before, markets are news driven, and this news had an effect, but its just news... The UK will take its time tank-you
Yes, ofcourse UK will leave its resignation when it wants to do it (doesnt mean that EU cant even ask them to hasten it a bit). But bear in mind, its not just EU thats suffering the uncertainty in markets, UK is paying for it too, every day.
Minonian
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They are generalizing, and put everyone into the same basket without to take a closer look. Just like a child, whom trying to force trough the triangle in the round shaped hole with the use of hammer.
Hahahahaha" Sure they were. This totally happened and that's why it was widely reported in all the credible news sources. It was a huge shock, and Sociologists and Psychologists have been working on the problem for years, trying to figure out why things got so bad and what can be done about it. I've seen the popular science documentaries about the whole phenomenon.
Except wait. I haven't, because that is racist propaganda which never actually happened. Sometimes I do wonder if you actually believe in this stuff. We have people in a "CLOSE THE BORDERS" Facebook group in Finland who get up to quite fevered fantasies inside their own echo chamber.
I suspect you think it totally happened but the "mainstream media" and "political establishment" hushed it up.
The petition states (Bolded part most relevant)
Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate
Government responds to all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures
The governments response to that will be "There is nothing we can do" .. they could get triple that number of signatures and it would still be ineffective.
Democracy has spoken, that cannot be ignored.
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Provide my link where i say "he is Holland" I never said those words.
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just realized, don't worry UK. As we are still a full member of the EU, if your economy collapse (and the EU is still okay), the EU will support us, and we have to pay in less, cool eh? we become one of there poorer nations, getting more from the EU than we pay in
And then, i guess we could turn around and say, 'we kinda like being on this side of the EU, all the free money' and stay in the EU, till we get too rich again, and the cycle continues.
just an idea
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we can then go work in Germany, and live in the UK where cost of living will be lower than Germany, but with higher Germany wages.. maybe this was the plan all along? well played
And then, i guess we could turn around and say, 'we kinda like being on this side of the EU, all the free money' and stay in the EU, till we get too rich again, and the cycle continues.
just an idea
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we can then go work in Germany, and live in the UK where cost of living will be lower than Germany, but with higher Germany wages.. maybe this was the plan all along? well played
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It is..... odd.
Not entirely unprecedented in a European context. Denmark rejected the Maastricht Treaty, and a 2nd referendum was held. Ireland rejected the Nice and Lisbon Treaties, and 2nd referendums were held. In all 3 cases, the referenda result changed on the 2nd vote.
I think a more emphatic vote - either way - would have been better. Still, a 60% threshold seems too high.
You have proven yourself to be an islamophobic racist with no regard for the truth. The article was not worth any more of my time.
Telling the truth is not racism so that is a non-argument. Flooding a country with Millions of Muslim immigrants result in that countries Crime rate and Forced Copulation rate to skyrocket, This is not a result caused by "Xenophobia, Racism, Bigotry and Cultural Racists" of the indigenous people but rather the flock of people arriving, Just look at the social experiment of Germany and Sweden. Heck, look at every single historical event where huge amounts of migration caused the Demographic, culture and peoples livelihood to change, Yes i'm talking about the native Americans, The native Australians. All wiped out and replaced as an extension of the migrating countries people and their culture.
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You claimed "Holland" is demanding a referendum. The country of Holland, or the majority of the people there are doing no such thing. Their local Boris / Trump lookalike is.
so what you are saying is that if a petition gets, lets say 10 million signatures saying that we should go to war with America, it should be followed ? .. You can submit a petition on anything and get as many signatures as you like .. some things wont be changed.
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if it does, it's not hard to find a UK postcode online.
Maybe you should try a bit harder:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/may/09/rochdale-gang-jailed-sexually-exploiting
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...trial-gang-convicted-for-sex-trafficking.html
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-leader-rochdale-grooming-gang-shabir-6859457
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