Elite Dangerous is not a sandbox

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And thats totally cool man. For 50 bucks, 30 hours of entertainment should be worth it for you.

Others will play it for thousands of hours. Its just not a game for you..;)

There is a chance that majority of people will be done in 30 hours when they get the ship they wanted - as there is not much to do in the game.

Exploration is fun. It will be fun to go into these random systems that no one has seen before. It will be especially fun for the first 2 hours. After the next 2 hours you start to feel used to the mechanics. After another 2 hours it is all repetition, unless you benefit financially. When you have the gear you want, you dont need to benefit financially.

To keep me interested for thousands of hours? Naah, I doubt it.

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And this is where we disagree. In EVE you have someone in the help channel saying "you do whatever you want to do, and I will help you to achieve that!" And then you find your social networks and game mechanics that keep you playing for years.

In Elite no one is going answer to you, and you are realasing that all there is to do, is to get the ship you always wanted and the rank that you wanted by trading, fighting, mining and mapping.


99% of the time they tell you to go mining, missioning, or trading, and give you plenty of advice how to do it.

Massive player corporations, from what I can see, are never going to be a part of E:D, so forget it. If that bums you out, do like your saying. Plunk down your 60 bucks, 'grind out a ship' and switch to something else.

I just don't get why you'd want to do something that clearly bores you.
 
Ok. So then PLEASE enlighten me, what is the purpose of this game?
What a silly, open ended question.

What's the purpose of EvE, exactly? There are almost as many ways to play EvE as there are people playing it. It's the same with Elite.

The idea is you do what you want, within the constraints of the game. And those constraints will expand constantly, Frontier plan to develop this game for years after its release.

Be a trader, a feared pirate, a bounty hunter extraordinaire, work as privateer for one of the major powers, work as a mercenary to the highest bidder, work as a caravan escort, explore the boundaries of known space, hunt for lost civilisations, hunt for alien artefacts, hunt THARGOIDs, prospect in asteroid belts, run a cruise ship, transport VIPs, transport slaves, free slaves, assassinate VIPs, compete in intergalactic races, smuggle drugs passed the Feds, smuggle secret plans, conduct a blockade, run a blockade, courier gemstones, salvage wrecks, scoop hydrogen from the corona of a blazing star, visit a black hole, just see the sights... or do any combination of these things, or any number of other things because the game is open ended and this is entirely off the top of my head.

And if you truly fear getting to "end game" and finding nothing to do, play in ironman and do all these things... if you dare.

Someone simplified Elite (dismissively) to just "trading, combat and exploration"... well that covers a lot of ground. And we haven't even started with the expansions yet.
 
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What is silly, open ended question.

What's the purpose of EvE, exactly?

There are almost as many ways to play EvE as there are people playing it, same with Elite.

The idea is you do what you want, within the constraints of the game. And those constraints will expand constantly, Frontier plan to develop this game for years after its release.

Be a trader, a feared pirate, a bounty hunter extraordinaire, work as privateer for one of the major powers, work as a mercenary to the highest bidder, work as a caravan escort, explore the boundaries of known space, hunt for lost civilisations, hunt for alien artefacts, hunt THARGOIDs, prospect in asteroid belts, run a cruise ship, transport VIPs, transport slaves, free slaves, assassinate VIPs, compete in intergalactic races, smuggle drugs passed the Feds, smuggle secret plans, conduct a blockade , run a blockade, salvage wrecks, scoop hydrogen from the corona of a blazing star, visit a black hole, just see the sights... or do any combination of these things.

And if you truly fear getting to "end game" and finding nothing to do, play in ironman and do all these things... if you dare.

Someone simplified Elite (dismissively) to just "trading, combat and exploration"... well that covers a lot of ground. And we haven't even started with the expansions yet.

Ironman is something I completely forgot about. Great point.

If you want 'end game' try to be elite with permadeath hanging over your head. That'll get the adrenaline going!
 
99% of the time they tell you to go mining, missioning, or trading, and give you plenty of advice how to do it.

Well, if that's EVE for you then I feel sorry for you. For many, EVE is all about getting tangled into social networks (corporations), spying into a competing one for months with a help of a spy, and then have someone streaming a visual of a warp gate on a secret web page for us to see when there are no enemy freighters around and safe for us to travel, and planning for an attack in a massive scale for months. That's the EVE for many of us.
 
Ahhh espionage and back-stabbing, the need to dominate all others, and only utter victory over the greasy smears of your broken and humiliated opponents will suffice.

And to think, that only a few moments before, those same individuals were your friends and allies, and they trusted you.

No thanks.

I smell bees chomping cigars. I'm going to stock up on bug spray.
 
Well, if that's EVE for you then I feel sorry for you. For many, EVE is all about getting tangled into social networks (corporations), spying into a competing one for months with a help of a spy, and then have someone streaming a visual of a warp gate on a secret web page for us to see when there are no enemy freighters around and safe for us to travel, and planning for an attack in a massive scale for months. That's the EVE for many of us.


Good grief. I never said anything about any of that, other than how Corporations, as E : D stands now, aren't going to be a part of the picture.

You're making it sound like a noob can start up and be a part of high minded politics and scamming. You can't, and many don't even know it's a part of the game when they quit.

Elite isn't about ruling the galaxy with a bunch of guildies, it's about being a small cog in an infinitely large machine. Which, to me (and many of us,) is very appealing. I, for one, hate the idea of having to join a guild to get anywhere in a game. I usually don't like them and I'd rather do my game my way.

EDIT: (just to be clear, I love(d) EVE. My name is on the monument in Iceland too... I just want to be my own person more than that game allows.)
 
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Be a trader, a feared pirate, a bounty hunter extraordinaire, work as privateer for one of the major powers, work as a mercenary to the highest bidder, work as a caravan escort, explore the boundaries of known space, hunt for lost civilisations, hunt for alien artefacts, hunt THARGOIDs, prospect in asteroid belts, run a cruise ship, transport VIPs, transport slaves, free slaves, assassinate VIPs, compete in intergalactic races, smuggle drugs passed the Feds, smuggle secret plans, conduct a blockade, run a blockade, courier gemstones, salvage wrecks, scoop hydrogen from the corona of a blazing star, visit a black hole, just see the sights... or do any combination of these things, or any number of other things because the game is open ended and this is entirely off the top of my head.

In other words - trade, fight or map unexplored systems or do some randomly generated missions by NPCs to get the ship you wanted. Once you have explored a bit and obtained the gear you wanted, nothing you have described will have any importance to you. All this will take approx 30 hours to complete.

Exploring the unkown will be cool for a while. Seeing an alien artifact floating in space will be cool once, but the second time you don't care.
 
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In other words - trade, fight or map unexplored systems or do some randomly generated missions by NPC's to get the ship you wanted. Once you have explored a bit, and obtained the gear you wanted, nothing you have described will have any importance to the player. All this will take approx 30 hours to complete.

If that is the case, then prove it. At release simply do a blog or whatever the latest fashion is, and see just what you can (or cannot) accomplish in 30 hours in Elite.
 
If that is the case, then prove it. At release simply do a blog or whatever the latest fashion is, and see just what you can (or cannot) accomplish in 30 hours in Elite.

I can see it now.

Hours 1 - 5: Started game, got my first ship

Hours 6-15: Pew pew'd until I got a bigger ship

Hours 16-30: Got a really big ship... Done!
 

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I know one thing elite has that no other game will have. You will never go to every single star system.
 
Well, good for your picnic. I will grind my way to the best ship in 30 hours and be disappointed if there is nothing else to keep me busy, and I'll switch the game. I bet there are many others who are doing the same.

You make it sound as if the community will miss you when you are gone.
As much as I doubt your ability to grind your way to Elite and the best ship (which more will be coming) in 30-ish hours I applaud your attempt to do so, Sir! I suppose FD will have the $$ so if that's what pleases you then you should search out your next 'instant gratification' goal! One thing I learned from MUD, EQ, WoW and others is that 'different strokes for different folks'!
I can't even count how many times people leave and come back for new content. It is a 'to each their own' thing! I stopped faulting people for wanting new thrills & spills long ago.
As to proving to you why you should remain or telling you reasons to play or trying to convince you to pay into Elite: Dangerous I'm sorry but that isn;t MY job (no me trajallo, senor). If you don;t want to join the Elite universe then DON'T. If you do, then WELCOME! Don;t try to get the community to plea bargain with you to join us. TBH, folks with attitude tend to create more issues than they are worth (in the long run) and I'm sorry if this sounds blunt but choose for yourself and live with your own decisions. Don't try to blame us for your choices. 'Nuff said and we'll see you in space! (or not)


Dammmmm! All this explaining.. I missed the herd! /sigh.. New martini, now cargo, another port... Enjoy!
 
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