Agreed, and happens on all sides of the arguments, on most any 'official' forums for a game, they become quickly very toxic
which is unfortunate, I mean there's only around 70k people on this forum, so they only ever represent a minority.
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which is unfortunate, I mean there's only around 70k people on this forum, so they only ever represent a minority.
Ah the old whine about whine thread...
back then we believed that here comes the long awaited fourth instalment to the best space-sim series that will, just like its predecessors, put the world in awe by its unprecedented quality PG content, and old-school but modernized gameplay straight from the DDF
Then we got an early unrealistic release date, excuses, some bullsh** about the cutting room floor, more excuses, no off-line, and the release of a broken p2p mmo abomination with no online mechanics and no offline like persistence, non existent exploration mechanics, 3 station types, 1 yellow truck, repeating asteroids, and instanced univers with no seamlessness
the forums since are just a reflection of the disappointment that was the rushed release
and if it wasn`t enough the progress went to a crawl since, and has been wandering around aimlessly in different unrelated directions, from powerplay through cqc to engineers.
Then we got an early unrealistic release date, excuses, some bullsh** about the cutting room floor, more excuses, no off-line, and the release of a broken p2p mmo abomination with no online mechanics and no offline like persistence, non existent exploration mechanics, 3 station types, 1 yellow truck, repeating asteroids, and instanced univers with no seamlessness
the forums since are just a reflection of the disappointment that was the rushed release
and if it wasn`t enough the progress went to a crawl since, and has been wandering around aimlessly in different unrelated directions, from powerplay through cqc to engineers.
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Here's my prediction: I don't think it's going to work. Still, kudos for the effort.
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On first reading that I thought it was unnecessarily harsh. But having read through it a couple of times I can't actually find a single point with which I disagree. I guess that's part of the paradoxical nature of this game; no matter how unique it is, or how much we might love it, it's ultimately a disappointment when compared to what was envisioned. Ah well, love the one you're with and all that...
Typhoon Moon
Banned
luckily I have a cushy job where I can check out the forums anytime I like.....it has more story and content sadly than the actual game itself....not much in it for txt though ha ha.
Have you red Plato? It's very fun. Socrates always begins a debate saying to his opponent that he (his opponent) is much more clever as himself (Socrates), and he (Socrates) is surely wrong. The opponent agrees noisily to any point of this introduction. After that, Socrates produces such clever arguments that the opponent can only admit Socrates is right. THAT is interesting to read.
ED was not a mainstream game. Its like a super indie game. Its also evolving. Yes I agree the way solo currently works .ie you can switch between open solo is wrong. If u play solo stay in Solo. This is used by Pirates to hide out. In any case finding another human player is very rare . With all the groups its very fragmented.
when I joined back at pb1, people were helpful, I guess I was asking questions back then though, rather than arguing with people who want to remove modes because they bought the wrong game, but I also would guess people did a bit more research before buying when the game cost a bit more.
now its £20 on steam people look at the adverts and assume mmo+space = eve in cockpits, if only they kept looking until they found valkrie.
eta, lol "full spectrum of people" that's a new one on me, I will have to remember that one, I quite like "mixed ability group" personally
I agree the forums took a nosedive around release though.
who do I have to bribe to get the beta forums opened up again?
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The modes are working as intended and as advertised ( about 3.5 years ago in the ks).
Meeting other players was meant to be "rare and meaningful".
All making people pick a mode and stick to it will do is make Open even more empty. I certainly wouldn't start a new cmdr and double the work needed to progress in open.
All the previous elite games were solo. Damn fd ruining a perfectly good solo game with multiplayer and mmo tags.
Maybe if they released multiplayer as dlc we wouldn't see all this "open is the right way to play" rubbish
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El Dragoon!
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Pre release they were admittedly happier times, loyalty, fanboys (which wasn't a derogatory label then), a close knit community and a positive outlook, there was an air that FD promised little but delivered much. The game was beginning to show promise, even the faults looked like they were only temporary blips and easily fixed. There was almost a blind faith that FD could do no wrong, but then came the urge from the Devs for a pre Christmas launch of this unfinished, unpolished product, despite the pleas from the alpha/beta/gamma testers.
Once launched the paying general public who had no prior loyalty to FD, saw through the smoke screen and recognised the game for what it was - shallow and lacking. The positivity on the forums gave way to an influx of discontent, the old school defending their baby were drowned out by the new guys paying full game price for a half finished game, feeling deceived and cheated.
The forum slowly then rapidly degenerated into what we have now, it does seem increasingly bitter since Horizons and now Engineers were released.
El Dragoon!
Banned
state the forum is in now, if i met any one from the forum, in game , i would immediately grief them
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I totally agree!
This is why I have really scaled back my Bug Reporting activities. I have always suspected that FD ignores a good 90% of the submissions for whatever reason. At least I rarely see them replying to most of them. Couple that with the fact that these same reported bugs never get fixed and I think it is a safe bet that those ignored reports are truly being ignored.
It takes a good deal of time to put together a thorough bug report, so after putting in all that time by documenting all the specifics of a particular bug, and then see it go totally ignored by the developers well...
Lets just say that after you watch this happen over and over again, you get to the point where you just don't bother anymore. While I would love to see the issues I have found and reported on actually taken seriously, I have had to accept the reality of the current situation and respond in kind.
If Frontier can't be bothered to read my reports, then I see no point in submitting any more.
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Brett C
Frontier
Well, that's a possible value of around 68000 people who have visited these forums since you've created this thread then.
Happy hunting, i guess?
Brett C
Frontier
There's also the high chance that many bug reports are either not bug reports, or are duplicate bug reports.
Brett C
Frontier
You remind me of the golden era of the forums, where it was a perfect golden silence...
Well said!
I think you have pretty much summed up the situation in a nice concise commentary! [up]
It has been a sad story to watch and actually be a part of. I had high hopes for this game going in, but now I don't know what to expect for the future.
I've just recently decided to finally put ED on the shelf for the first time ever, and focus on some of my other games. Some well known popular titles that I had put on the back burner in favor of playing Elite all these many months.
But lately I have been getting no joy out of performing the same tired, repetitive and predictable things in ED over and over again. The game just feels stale lately, and when you reach that point with any game, its time to give it a long rest and see if you are later compelled to return. If that urge to return never comes, then that closes the book for you and that game. I am sure we have all experienced this at one time or another with other games. I just never thought ED would be one of them for me.
Despite the new features introduced in 2.1, I am still longing for some NEW and ENGAGING gameplay coming out of Frontier Towers. But I am just not seeing it. And the complete LACK of actual NEWS doesn't help instill any confidence that the situation will be changing anytime soon.
This is why I have shelved ED for now, but will keep my eye out for any new content, along with any major fixes to some of the more annoying bugs.
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