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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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First of all I don't actually know how to do the things you recommended. As for the rest, yes it's a game, no I don't expect them to make a whole new language, which is why I'm theorizing they might be using Mayan numerals in this instance, or at least some. Did you take a look at the links? It's literally the same thing.
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For everyone else, I just recommend that this is, afterall, a game. They're not going to make a complete language like Klingon and require us to bring linguists...or quantum physicist, to solve this. It's fun to have wacky, deep, complicated theories, but it's a game and I humbly posit we remember this. I'll be happy whatever the solution is but my gut is saying it's going to be simpler than 90% of the theories flying around here.
Carry on!
Typing from my phone and forum stops my spell check/autocorrect. Sorry for any typos!
Tl;dr: it's just a game, don't miss the forest for the trees. Reality, Reasonable, probly not overly complicated.
Well Mayan was touted for a long time re the UA markings - thinking from this sode of the 4th wall, it's possible that the bottom two symbols might have been created with that in mind.
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So there are 6 panels to decipher. There is a clear line at around 900 Hz, separating the three more obvious panels
the bottom left panel seems to have a bigger version of the .|. symbol. Im sure once you get the settings right the big .|. becomes clearer
The panel under the top middle panel appears to have different type of data in it , as does the bottom right panel
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First of all, I was starting to think no one was gonna see what I found, so thanks for noticing. But yeah, the more I think about it the less of a stretch it seems. I mean look at that, it's literally the same symbol. And I gather that the exact placement of said markings could make a completely different number. I'm no expert in Mayan, like I said I happened upon it. But I'm willing to bet at least one of those is "26", and the other is either the opposite of it or maybe even another number entirely. In which case, it would seem that each marking is a coordinate on the graph, and the line points to a hemisphere of the planet.
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For me this part of the forums has a black background.
Plz at everyone who changed the color setting to a fixed color: set it back to "default", so it will adjust to the forum settings.
So what did I miss? Did you find out the criteria where barnacles grow?
Mayan could be possible. But the Maya wrote numbers differently; turned 90°. Also there is never a dot below a bar.
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Nevermind, there is.... -|- (turned 90°) could mean 121
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Its still a bit of a stretch. 26, granted, is similar. But then, you leap to -26, because its backwards, Mayan numbers don't have negatives. Also, the top two still have the problem of being slightly different look - the dots aren't the same. I would say though that the bottpm ones actually look more similiar to Mayan characters, but if you did apply the same to the top ones, the top left is closest to 406, if you drop the zero character entirely, and the top right would be 11.
Edit; my apologies, you don't mention negative numbers! That's just me being an idiot who has just got out of bed! Sorry!
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For me this part of the forums has a black background.
Plz at everyone who changed the color setting to a fixed color: set it back to "default", so it will adjust to the forum settings.
So what did I miss? Did you find out the criteria where barnacles grow?
same here, black background, default everyone always please.
So, if the transmission from the UP is 6 minutes long... why are we only seeing a small part of that? I think that the UP/UA talks in witchspace, or during certain areas.
Repped. Quite coherent & very clear. I think you just misread one question - Aguettinger asked what USS type UP free floaters would be in & you responded Convoy Dispersal threat 4, however that's the USS type for the current UP convoys. The correct answer is we don't know as nobody has found a free floating UP yet, but the free floating UA USS is Anomaly threat 4 & that seems likely to me also for the Wild UP.
otherwise a good post
It´s not 6 minutes long. I think they mean that a UP lives (100 to 0 %) 6 minutes in free space (while writing this I feel a logical error ... a probe should live longer in free space.. but cargo in general is degenerating in space, for whatever reason..persistance-problems maybe).
How is it literally the same thing? If it's literally the same thing then why does your theory only explain one of the symbols and a maybe on a second one. If you are going to interpret the bottom two binary symbols as Mayan numbers, then you would also need to at the very least explain the other two binary symbols as binary numbers. If you can't, then it's just speculation and coincidence.
For a theory for the UP spectogram image to grab my personal attention it would need to satisfy the following:
- A comprehensive explanation of the UP spectrogram or part of it using imagery (e.g. it's a map of a crater) or some language we can understand (e.g. it's binary numbers in decimals or it's Morse) or a combination thereof. Only explaining the central circular symbol and not even mentioning the symbols on the left and right of it is not sufficient. At least mention that you can't explain them or they are considered as noise in your theory.
- The same explanation must be applied to all similar parts of the image. For example, it doesn't make sense to interprete one of the binary symbols as a number while interpreting another as Morse. That is just trying too hard to fit the image for your theory instead of the other way around. Moreover, if you can only explain a part of the image with one explanation but not the other similar parts, then that is not very convincing either (e.g. Top left is orbital cruise height, top right is scanning the planet, bottom right is radius of Merope 5C, but I have no idea what bottom left is).
- Your theory must either explain or at least speculate what to do next or that the explanation is the final piece in itself. For example, you can say that the binary symbols say 1234, but so what? We can't do anything with just that. However, if you theorizes that the UP image says "Hello! We are Thargoids and we are watching you!", which doesn't really involve a next step in the puzzle but rather the end of it, that is fine.
- If your theory uses any data obtained from in-game (in-game location, sound), show proof (screenshot, video).
- Must make sense in Elite's lore (It's a pizza doesn't satisfy this)
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Given the Antares Memorial Galnet post, seen as a hint to a cloaked ship, then I think that is likely. Think there should be a Lagrange point between Merope 5 & 5C? I think that would be a good place to try.
Indeed. This kind of exculde mayan numbers as a possibility as there is no way to fit -|- in.
begin mini rant :
This thread is quickly becoming like the formidine rift thread #2, huge noise, low signal. If a hypothesis is not testable, it's useless.
So are half-formed "theories" based on lore and speculations on what is happening behind the scenes of the storyline. (I know it's fun
and stuff, but really it does not help).
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concerning mayan numbers:
-|- = 121
.|| = 11 or 201 (depends on the way you read it)
|-- = 7 and 102 when read the other way around.
Could really be coordinates then. Maybe worth a try.
also note that the highest number that can be expressed with 3 (single) symbols in mayan is | | | = 2105, which can be easily misunderstood for 15, which is the same symbold with less space between the |||
Edit: there are even more ways to read the numbers above.... so meh.
@Muetdhiver: I figured there is, but it seems it's usually written with bigger spaces inbetween so you don't mix up the numbers:
http://www.dcode.fr/mayan-numbers
-|- = 121
.|| = 11 or 201 (depends on the way you read it)
|-- = 7 and 102 when read the other way around.
Could really be coordinates then. Maybe worth a try.
also note that the highest number that can be expressed with 3 (single) symbols in mayan is | | | = 2105, which can be easily misunderstood for 15, which is the same symbold with less space between the |||
Edit: there are even more ways to read the numbers above.... so meh.
@Muetdhiver: I figured there is, but it seems it's usually written with bigger spaces inbetween so you don't mix up the numbers:
http://www.dcode.fr/mayan-numbers
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Similar? It's the exact same thing turned on it's side... not the first time I've seen that either. Granted the "-26" was a guess, like I said I'm no expert I tripped on this info to find it. Then again... these aren't Mayans we're talking about. If I were designing a mystery, I'd give people some sort of stepping stone and make the rest completely alien. I mean the other guy just found another possible number using a Mayan chart. And it would make sense for the "numbers" boxing the planet map to be coordinates.
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