UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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I'd be interestep in your findings. PM me with details would love to help you take this further. I'm currently looking for another UP as my last attempt proves too deadly
Overlaying right panel on center panel in 3D on perpendicular semitransparent planes and viewing from an angle where the double arcs line up, and superimposing a sphere on those, it seemed to me like a diagram indicating to land at the north or south pole of Merope 5C. North pole turned up nothing, but at the south pole I found this strange dark-colored soil area arranged in exactly a square pattern (90 degrees angle).
Furthermore, from this position the planet Merope 5 with its twin rings was exactly at the compass bearing of 45 degrees, indicating it may be what is represented by the "double lines" (it has two rings):
Furthermore from this position, the Small Magellanic cloud is at 220 degrees and its partner is 30 degrees apart. This could be the "two lines" on the lower left of the diagram.
Note that if you drive very far from the exact coordinates in the screenshots, because you're at the pole, your compass bearing will change dramatically. What's important here is not the literal compass readings but that given the relative differences between the heading with Merope 5 at the center, and the headings with Small and Large Magellanic clouds at the center, and given that if Merope 5 is the "double arc" symbol then all it has to do is lie in the upper right quadrant, then the headings of these objects if drawn around a circle line up precisely with the markings that might represent them on the diagram.
It is probably just a coincidence, and the dark soil patch is probably just a texture artifact caused by a stitching glitch at the pole, but hey, my CMDR doesn't know he's in a simulation, so, as far as he is concerned, it's the best lead we've got so far
Now as for the arc in the upper left, well, that could just roughly represent the Pleides nebula (which dominates the sky throughout that quadrant, but admittedly, also stretches well into the upper right quadrant as well—a fact that is eased if you overlay the right-hand panel on the center and consider the right-hand panel's primary arc as somewhat an extension of the center panel's upper-left quadrant's arc... it's a stretch, I know).
In the unlikely event these are the inteded representations, then I recon that a previous poster might be correct about the "binary" codes actually representing the unit vectors, because it would make the 135-degree line the obvious Z (aka K) unit vector, (0,0,1). That would explain (1,0,0) and (0,1,0) but, what does it tell us about (0,1,1)? Heh, it's the normalized vector, (0,1/sqrt(2),1/sqrt(2)), i.e. r=1.41421, θ=45 degrees, φ=90 degrees, which is consistent with its position between a quadrant with a 90-degree angle (the upper left quadrant) and a quadrant with a 45-degree angle (the lower right quadrant).
I suspect the diagram represents a rotation with 30 degrees θ and 90 degrees φ (or vice versa) but what is the value of ρ? UA shell radius? Square root of two (vector length of [0,1,1])? If not then I believe we are dealing with spherical coordinates and a surface map; otherwise, we are dealing with spatial coordinates somewhere nearby.
Another option is the two arcs also represent the two angles of a rotation, 45 and 90 degrees (hence the [0,1,1] normalized vector being right next to the symbol). If that's the case then all we need is something to line up the origin.
Note: I logged in twice about 9 hours apart to verify the sky did not change due to 5C's orbit. It did not, but please report if these objects are in different positions to you; if they are, then it would tend to suggest that the client caches the skybox until you take off and land again, something I've suspected for awhile now due to terrain glitches persisting across relogs to different servers (open/solo).
Furthermore, from this position the planet Merope 5 with its twin rings was exactly at the compass bearing of 45 degrees, indicating it may be what is represented by the "double lines" (it has two rings):
Furthermore from this position, the Small Magellanic cloud is at 220 degrees and its partner is 30 degrees apart. This could be the "two lines" on the lower left of the diagram.
Note that if you drive very far from the exact coordinates in the screenshots, because you're at the pole, your compass bearing will change dramatically. What's important here is not the literal compass readings but that given the relative differences between the heading with Merope 5 at the center, and the headings with Small and Large Magellanic clouds at the center, and given that if Merope 5 is the "double arc" symbol then all it has to do is lie in the upper right quadrant, then the headings of these objects if drawn around a circle line up precisely with the markings that might represent them on the diagram.
It is probably just a coincidence, and the dark soil patch is probably just a texture artifact caused by a stitching glitch at the pole, but hey, my CMDR doesn't know he's in a simulation, so, as far as he is concerned, it's the best lead we've got so far
Now as for the arc in the upper left, well, that could just roughly represent the Pleides nebula (which dominates the sky throughout that quadrant, but admittedly, also stretches well into the upper right quadrant as well—a fact that is eased if you overlay the right-hand panel on the center and consider the right-hand panel's primary arc as somewhat an extension of the center panel's upper-left quadrant's arc... it's a stretch, I know).
In the unlikely event these are the inteded representations, then I recon that a previous poster might be correct about the "binary" codes actually representing the unit vectors, because it would make the 135-degree line the obvious Z (aka K) unit vector, (0,0,1). That would explain (1,0,0) and (0,1,0) but, what does it tell us about (0,1,1)? Heh, it's the normalized vector, (0,1/sqrt(2),1/sqrt(2)), i.e. r=1.41421, θ=45 degrees, φ=90 degrees, which is consistent with its position between a quadrant with a 90-degree angle (the upper left quadrant) and a quadrant with a 45-degree angle (the lower right quadrant).
I suspect the diagram represents a rotation with 30 degrees θ and 90 degrees φ (or vice versa) but what is the value of ρ? UA shell radius? Square root of two (vector length of [0,1,1])? If not then I believe we are dealing with spherical coordinates and a surface map; otherwise, we are dealing with spatial coordinates somewhere nearby.
Another option is the two arcs also represent the two angles of a rotation, 45 and 90 degrees (hence the [0,1,1] normalized vector being right next to the symbol). If that's the case then all we need is something to line up the origin.
Note: I logged in twice about 9 hours apart to verify the sky did not change due to 5C's orbit. It did not, but please report if these objects are in different positions to you; if they are, then it would tend to suggest that the client caches the skybox until you take off and land again, something I've suspected for awhile now due to terrain glitches persisting across relogs to different servers (open/solo).
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Can someone hire Nicolas Caje for solving this misrtery?
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First off; I like your approach. Think of something, now go out and test it. Good job!
Second Merope 5 is not a planet, it's a Brown Dwarf (Class Y). Sorry, just had to.
Third; It looks like Merope 5 is more like 35 degrees compass bearing in your picture. 45 degrees is on the outer edge of the rings. So, close, but not quite.
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I need to dig out the recent photo where me and my friends went to a trivia night all wearing Nicolas Cage masks from different films...
EDIT: But I still have the masks... and yes, that's Jon Travolta (Faceoff) and Groot (The Groots)... they totally count
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please!
Ok I have worked out how to do this in google sketch up (project a 2 d image onto a sphere) with this tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDFHIo5ir6Y
first attempt - Nothing. Maybe i need to keep the logarithmic on, maybe adjust the sphere
i'll post some pics
I'd also like to note my strong disagreement both with the content and wording by of this message.
If coded SETI type messages are easily decodable by everyone then I can't buy in to the mystery of the story arc at all. Even though I don't understand half of the stuff people are throwing up as they go through the science, I'm thoroughly enjoying just watching everyone doing it, and flying over M5c myself wondering if il be the one to stumble upon some vital clue.
FD should be ashamed? Outrageous. They've done a great job in my opinion. You should be eating your words, soon.
It just means that Log_x
You're my new hero.
I like you LZ you are ok in my book. I have to disagree with you though. I mean thousands of people have contributed here sure, but there also are 1.5 million people who bought it. Imagine if there were real content and real puzzles and real cool stuff in this. You'd be getting 100x more action in these forums. Just look at the names of the games with more players ahead of ED in the rankings and you'll see all it takes to be successful when it comes to that sort of thing.
I do agree though that yes I am a little frustrated. I do like puzzles and challenges very much. This is really the only puzzle within our grasp. We've been DYING for any sort of exploration content in this game. Alien races, all sorts of cool things that could have been done. Don't get me wrong the story is fantastic its just too removed from the general population that could have made this game even more mainstream. Don't mention the BBC either. I'm sure this whole story among many others could have been prodded along much faster than it has been and the galaxy could have been seeded with thousand of really creative and unique things for us to find. There isn't. (Yet) and that is my frustration.
As I stated elsewhere in the post, it only matters that it's in the upper right quadrant. Also, it's the rings that matter, not the star; and the rings are definitely at 45 degrees.
he said do your home work guys and go solve it he doesnt have to provide evidence he gave a tip, you dont give someone a tip then give proof it doesnt work like that lol your option is to prove or disprove his tip
I thought that one claiming something has to prove it. just trusting someone saying something in a stream could become a new religion. :*
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not really someone giving a tip doesnt require proof
only MB provides tips without proof, if you want to think tehy are tips. the rest of human mortals provide theories, opinions or proof.
That's what she said.
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