UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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I also met my NPC as a mission target. Maybe something FD slipped in to increase the chances of us meeting them.

This wasn't his NPC though, it was him as CMDR

And you've met your NPC? damnit, I'm waiting for the day I find me (my NPC name choice is my RL name) in this game somewhere :)
 
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Something is bothering me about the globe shape... I'm sure that I've seen it somewhere before...it's nagging the hell out of me. Like one of those silly little puzzles you get in a Christmas cracker.

I'm considering that there might be some merit in a cipher ring...And maybe that we should get some scissors and card out. I dunno. Might get fed up soon and head to Jacques for a beer!

Sure don't know what we have to translate though. Perhaps those noodley little shapes in the image background form something when spun around. God knows. Beer please.

It is one of those things you get in a Christmas Cracker, we just don't have the whole image yet ;)

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This wasn't his NPC though, it was him as CMDR

And you've met your NPC? damnit, I'm waiting for the day I find me (my NPC name choice) in this game somewhere :)

Yup, my NPC as a mission target - he had to die. All very traumatic!
 
As I stated earlier Merope 5C has massive images hidden on it's surface around the coordinates: -28.1990 -157.4042 0.136.
Images have been treated with the "key" from the news letter. There's so much out here!
#1: http://imgur.com/g22hTBk
#2: http://imgur.com/fK7zpjj
More treated images to follow. There's a message down here bois, lets either get crackin or try to get the probe to do it for us!

Is anyone listening?

i get it, you're just trolling, ha ha
 
How certain are we that it is 5C?

I know it points at 5C...but the lines on the image don't really work well for axial tilt etc of 5C...

MB did kinda indicate the UP pointing behavior was for a different reason to the UA...
 
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Maybe they aren't NPC's. Maybe *we* are the NPCs...and they are the humans.....mind...blown...

Tron!

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Im lost. Why put this on the front page?

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Micheal already said we need outside tools to solve this puzzle.

Because it's a nice Photoshop template to use for manipulating the different parts of the UP signal.
It's a big help for those who don't know how to use blending of layers :-D
 
All Hail Master Xenu(Xemu). For he who does not believe shall be placed at a volcano and hydrogen bombed till your soul is released into the collection ribbon. Remove your implants and show your true allegiance to the one true god of the 26 galactic star systems..............................

Sorry........Em.........So any news on whats happening and has anything else been found?
 
All Hail Master Xenu(Xemu). For he who does not believe shall be placed at a volcano and hydrogen bombed till your soul is released into the collection ribbon. Remove your implants and show your true allegiance to the one true god of the 26 galactic star systems..............................

Sorry........Em.........So any news on whats happening and has anything else been found?

Nope, just a lot of blathering and back-biting. I still think we're onto something with Newgrange, though. Too many coincidences. I don't science though, short attention span and all. . .

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THere is a problem with collating the ideas here, may be worthwhile going from thread 1 and drawing up a bit of a tree,
often an idea depends on a group of hypotheses, we could summarize all the ideas in a sort of tree starting with simple facts, and then grouping by assumptions,
like. From each assumption you can add others.

- 1) Purpose of message is to unlock more data from the audio
2) purpose of message is to give location coordinates
3) purpose of message is to signify manoevres of ship
4) purpose of message is to send us all insane and make the thargoid take over easier

This might help us with a summmary - and help us to stop repeating, becuase its quite hard to read from thread 1, and people want to have fun after all.
 
I still think if this is a "key" what do you do with a key? You twist it. I've been playing with a 360 degree protractor and lining things up and following the order to find the final coords by twisting it those degrees. I didn't have time to search last night much. But I think

Has anyone ever considered a "combination lock"? You have 3 numbers for a combination lock that require you to spin things one way, and then back the other and then back the other.

Could this lead us to a 3d coordinate of a star somewhere?

http://pickeroflocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/combination-lock-icon-1.jpg

Hmmm. . . . . there are a few parallels here.

http://winchestersafes.com/support/lock-instructions/mechanical-lock-instructions/
 
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I've genuinely given up on trying to interpret this diagram as anything specifically related to a location for now.


For similar-ish reasons to Domm earlier, but not because we don't have a good enough 'version' of it.


I don't think we need a better version of it; but I also don't think the angles are important either - it looks like a trigonometric puzzle, but it's not IMHO - it's a logic puzzle and when the correct interpretation comes along, it'll be obvious. In terms of measurements, although I was right there with the on-screen protractors - it just doesn't seem right. And even if you can come up with some angles (bearing in mind someone else will come up with different angles too!) there's no satisfying way to interpret them that isn't the equivalent of looking at Varatian Tea Leaves and thinking you're going to win the lottery.


That doesn't mean, however, that I don't think there's something we're missing - some other part which helps - I think that's incredibly likely.


For me, now, while I will still continue to stare at the image every day for a little while, I'm more interested in where the things are found 'in the wild' - where the Feds are getting them from. I think there could be something about that location that could prove interesting indeed. Not only that, but it would also give us more Probes to, uh, probe.


Taking advantage of your post here, I pop up just a minute to say this:


I'm still very much convinced that the two bottom glyphs ARE NOT RELATED TO THE TOP ONES.
They are too much different in size and spacing to be related: they are a red herring.

I've the clearest image of the spectrogram ever made in front of me now, and those two bottom symbols seems more to me like:
| - - FROM TO - - |


So what if the circle is not four quadrants but just two halves?


And they are telling us WHERE the UP ARE right now?
I mean the UP SHELL location?
A map for them then?

The left part is the FROM and the right part is the TO. A RANGE.

Like the UA bubble that is 135 to 150 Ly from Merope.

Cheers CMDRs

Mt1aK6i.jpg
 
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THere is a problem with collating the ideas here, may be worthwhile going from thread 1 and drawing up a bit of a tree,
often an idea depends on a group of hypotheses, we could summarize all the ideas in a sort of tree starting with simple facts, and then grouping by assumptions,
like. From each assumption you can add others.

- 1) Purpose of message is to unlock more data from the audio
2) purpose of message is to give location coordinates
3) purpose of message is to signify manoevres of ship
4) purpose of message is to send us all insane and make the thargoid take over easier

This might help us with a summmary - and help us to stop repeating, becuase its quite hard to read from thread 1, and people want to have fun after all.

See page one., and thank you for volunteering :)
 
If you turn the UP image symbols into hexagrams, the circular method gives [-l- -ll] "Articulating" (Can also mean limiting), and [--l l--] "Exceeding Small" as in surpasing small, going beyond small. Infinitesimal?

Taking the top pair and bottom pair as hexagrams gives [-l- -ll] "Articulating"/"Limiting" and [|-- --|] "Swallowing"/"Jaws"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hexagrams_of_the_I_Ching#Hexagram_27

The great thing about bringing in the I Ching is that it still functions correctly if you assume the beeps are random!
(although it kinda sucks that you will never get certain ones because its not a complete set of possible random beeps- you cant get qian or kun, number 1 and 2 in the whole list, cause there no --- or ... :())
 
What about ||| and --- ?

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We do not need them at all!
In my theory the glyphs are not binary nor anything else if not markers, or placeholders for the quadrants in the drawing. Every purrs triplet represents one of the quadrants, so what we achieve in the end is a sequence of quadrants.
Anyway I understand Arguendo's concerns about that we don't know where the beginning of the UP transmission is, and if the transmission is consistent or it does in fact change at every recording. So far it seems it does. So I've put it in stand by until I come back from holidays.
 
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the term you're looking for is radar/lidar...along with other terms for particular wavelength mapping technologies.. which is essentially sonar but with EM waves instead of sound.
 
Taking advantage of your post here, I pop up just a minute to say this:


I'm still very much convinced that the two bottom glyphs ARE NOT RELATED TO THE TOP ONES.
They are too much different in size and spacing to be related: they are a red herring.

I've the clearest image of the spectrogram ever made in front of me now, and those two bottom symbols seems more to me like:
| - - FROM TO - - |


So what if the circle is not four quadrants but just two halves?


And they are telling us WHERE the UP ARE right now?
I mean the UP SHELL location?
A map for them then?

The left part is the FROM and the right part is the TO. A RANGE.

Like the UA bubble that is 135 to 150 Ly from Merope.

Cheers CMDRs

http://i.imgur.com/Mt1aK6i.jpg

just to be a wet blanket- the reasoning that the top and bottom binary numbers* are different is mostly based on them being bigger on the bottom, and then on making them fit whatever the theory someone is trying to sell. They are absolutely bigger on the bottom, but there is also a lot more noise down there, and there's no (( symbol in the way. It's just as possible that the artist made them bigger because there was room and so why not, and because it made them easier to see.

tl:dr im firmly in the camp that says those glyphs are all numbers, either part of one big number or a list/sequence. Once you start saying the same number is one thing in one place and another in other, you can make them fit anything.

* (im calling them binary because there's 2 symbols, i know it doesn't prove they encode numbers or anything)


I'm getting to the point where I will be        if we figure this out, because it means Frontier is just being obtuse for lulz. :mad:

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the term you're looking for is radar/lidar...along with other terms for particular wavelength mapping technologies.. which is essentially sonar but with EM waves instead of sound.

we need a generic term for radar, but i think Dar might be too short

Dardar?
Darrrrrrrr
 
just to be a wet blanket- the reasoning that the top and bottom binary numbers* are different is mostly based on them being bigger on the bottom, and then on making them fit whatever the theory someone is trying to sell. They are absolutely bigger on the bottom, but there is also a lot more noise down there, and there's no (( symbol in the way. It's just as possible that the artist made them bigger because there was room and so why not, and because it made them easier to see.

Actually it's even simpler than that, I think... remember that logarithmic scaling was used to convert the audio frequencies into the image, so there are just different amounts of resolution available in the top and bottom.
 
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