UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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@han_zen's Thargon *has* to go in there.

Also - I hope you got the permission of the owner of that account to post it on the open interweb! It'll be receiving all manner of amazing email from Nigeria and from Russian 'ladies' already; and there'll be bots spaffing all the popular websites trying to login with it!



Either way, though, this is brilliant. Such excite! Many coverage!

Yes I did. I'll remove it tomorrow.
 
this is very interesting.

maybe the instruction could be:

''this is your compass''
''keep the central point, is Merope 5c''
''we give you two points to lock (the two left bottom lines)''
''Follow the line at 5 o'clock''

I don't think it's that similar.
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The parallels aren't parallel on the UP image and the longitudes don't curve enough.

But If it's still a match, I think its a hollow circle in the middle of the big UP circle.

That would mean that M5C should be kept directly behind, not ahead. [yesnod]
 
Has anyone tried honking a UP or UA while having a blown canopy?

Theory: a wave that results in an audible noise could potentially sound very different if it's not attenuated by the thick canopy & cabin atmosphere (and it's coded as such, obviously). Probe-to-human neural data transmission would also be more likely.

If this is a space-faring (semi-) biological entity, then it could require *direct* communication.
You don't need a blown canopy to get that muffled effect to sound. Just turn off life support. :cool:
 
From perusing the comments, it looks like the problem is isolated to the FossHub site, and not a problem with Audacity itself, but twitter feed confirms they also infected Audacity download on the FossHub site:

"@CultOfRazer So did you compromise more downloads on FossHub, or only the one for ClassicShell?"

"@AuraTheWhiteHat We also compomised Audacity. FossHub was fully compromised, including (temporarily), the admin's email."

Source: https://twitter.com/CultOfRazer/status/760668803097296897
 
I believe you've missed my point in there. The result you'd get by "subtracting two spectrograms" wouldnt be equal to the result youd get by "subtracting two audio signals (by phase inverting one of them, then adding two together) then looking into spectrogram of the added signal." The reason is that you lose the phase information on the spectrogram.

I did pretty much this a while back (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...7-The-Canonn?p=4265333&viewfull=1#post4265333). Phase shifted the left channel 180 and added it back to the right channel. The spectogram in that link is the result. As expected it largely washed out the signal. What I found interesting is it ended up highlighting some of the time varying wideband spikes.
 
As suggested by Bungalo of The Canonn, I have performed a couple more experiments in an attempt to determine when a UP will light up and wail and when it will not. The data recorded can be found in the post linked in my signature.

It seems that the UP will wail when in proximity of a planet, but not a (main) star. With proximity I mean when the bottom left panel of your ship's HUD says the name of the nearby celestial body. The UP will not wail when in deep space. The significance of this is unclear.

During the last test of these experiments, I lost my UP when I disconnected while I had it out. You can see in the last video that I franctically and clumsily tried to scoop the UP when I noticed that my connection was dying. I managed to scoop the UP at the client-side in the end, but this couldn't salvage the situation. I disconnected shortly after and upon relogging, the UP was not in my cargo hold. A ticket to FD support has been sent in the hopes of getting it back.
great work cmdr - now we now why we didn't find the honk-response straight away perhaps and we can end the "it only started working cos fdev turned it on like magic" bit

this could suggest the search for free floaters may be better focused around planets than stars or deep space
 
Ok, I apologise for adding another idea to the pot. Unfortunately, my 3D skills are nowhere as good as needed for this, so I open it up to you lot to try and do something with it.

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Basically, if you take a globe, stick X, Y and Z axis in there, rotate it until it matches the image you see in the probe and then look at the centre point, I propose this is a coordinate on probably a planet. Unfortunately, my 3D skill are not good enough to extrapolate this into a number.

I am also thinking the symbols around the outside are either axis markers, or numbers to help with the alignment.

I would appreciate if someone with better skills than me could take this to the next level and see if it leads anywhere.
 
It seems that the UP will wail when in proximity of a planet, but not a (main) star. With proximity I mean when the bottom left panel of your ship's HUD says the name of the nearby celestial body. The UP will not wail when in deep space. The significance of this is unclear..

This is very interesting. So the symbol could be a generic description of a "celestial body"
 
Ok guys, i'm 99.9% sure the UP image is a distortion of our ship's hud, because http://i.imgur.com/xBSV6l9.jpg

That matches the grided circle in the UP image. (Which is big here)



The full spectrum image even has shield bars on the right and some random lines on the left that match the area where your selected target appears.

The curious thing is, only one of the 4 arcs in above picture appears in the UP image along with other random symbols. What if our first step is figuring out what this distortion is trying to ADD to our huds? Might help narrow down what we need to look at.

It was stated that it might be a hud distortion before MB said some theories were close. In case that's important to people.

Its a decoder ring... also. for anyone who does not bellive me. speed up the UP passive sound 5x. there a distinct chirps in there.
 
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I'm away from computer and can't do this right now. Go to merope 5C in the system map and scroll ALL the way in. There are wireframe models of planets when you get close. Merope's might be different and match the UP signal image...?
 
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Ok, So here is a working solution,

THe key is actually the top far left panel
there are two images
/ and / the second is less complete than the first - after this is the remainder between the two
. .

THe image has a < under which is a block, with a dot adjacent to the block indicating the message is within the block of audio

Top left of the sphere is a .|. analogous to the circle in the box on the golden disk, once you are deconding correctly you see this symbol.

UNder these panels at frequency of 200 to 900 Hz is data in three panels, the first panel is the test sequence.

All you need to do is subtract the left audio from the right audio and the test panel resolves into .|.
http://i.imgur.com/7DCSBvD.jpg


I've done this with the middle panel but my alignment is out,

i am however getting the middle line of text a little clearer, -11.15
http://imgur.com/a/m6vy4

- the noise is cancelling out and a signal coming forward
 

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great work cmdr - now we now why we didn't find the honk-response straight away perhaps and we can end the "it only started working cos fdev turned it on like magic" bit
I am not sure how you make that deduction, as the wails are independant of the Honk. The UAs also wail, and they do not send an image when honked.
 
I believe the top line reads 18th Aug,

the middle line is -11.15 (the sphere has longitude -45.00)
so the location is longitude -45.00, lattitude is -11.15 On Merope 5 c Matching Merope rings rising.
 
Ok, So here is a working solution,

THe key is actually the top far left panel
there are two images
/ and / the second is less complete than the first - after this is the remainder between the two
. .

THe image has a < under which is a block, with a dot adjacent to the block indicating the message is within the block of audio

Top left of the sphere is a .|. analogous to the circle in the box on the golden disk, once you are deconding correctly you see this symbol.

UNder these panels at frequency of 200 to 900 Hz is data in three panels, the first panel is the test sequence.

All you need to do is subtract the left audio from the right audio and the test panel resolves into .|.
http://i.imgur.com/7DCSBvD.jpg


I've done this with the middle panel but my alignment is out,

i am however getting the middle line of text a little clearer, -11.15
http://imgur.com/a/m6vy4

- the noise is cancelling out and a signal coming forward

I see.... noise. Nothing else. Sorry.
 

Arguendo

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Its a decoder ring... also. for anyone who does not bellive me. speed up the UP passive sound 5x. there a distinct chirps in there.
It's an ice-cream cone...also. for anyone who does not believe me. 3D print it and taste it.

Will you either add some substance to that theory of yours, or quit spouting non-substantiated claims filled with vague hints? You have been asked several times by different people to do this, but your comprehension seems lacking unfortunately.
 
Hey, who organised the operation "get them" (UPs)? I need to talk to him and can't seem to find the thread.
 
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