UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Mr_Zeno

Mr_Zeno
It has been mentioned that the barnacles are a genetically altered version of an ancient lifeform.
What if the creators are ancient too, then their starcharts would be out of date as stars move and change type. At a far enough distance the light from the changes won't be apparent for millennia. So, what if the probes are trying to locate old enough stars that they can match to the older maps and update them accordingly, the oldest stellar items are White Dwarfs, Neutron Stars/ Pulsars and Black Holes. Using these as reference points you would be able to update a map and get your bearing etc.
With a new map you can plan your invasion.
 

BluWolve

BluWolve
I still believe the probes are man made, based on the UA but as defensive measure. I believe Prof. Palin to be the designer due to his history, and due to his engineer description. If you have not read it before I have a screenshot below -

https://account.xbox.com/en-us/scre...lve&scid=764b0100-8a71-477f-9136-941262e969ad

If it does happen to be the case, then I would guess the most logical places for free floating defensive technology would be a shell around something worth defending. The places I can think of in no particular order -

A. Maia, where Palin is located.
B. Sol, if it is federal ships carting them around then they may be protecting their home
C. The whole bubble
D. Merope because that's where they point
E. Somewhere no one wants a discovery scanner honked.

This is just speculation of what the UP could be if it is not designed to give us a message. I could be wrong and the UP was created by another race and designed to give us a message. However until anyone knows for a fact where they come from, who/what they came from and what is the intended purpose then Professor Palin is my prime suspect. Based on that, those are the most logical places I can think of to search for freefloating UP.

Fly safe o7
 
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GeneralGhostt

GeneralGhostt
someone said that the alliance is way to quiet abaut this stuff maybe we need to knock on their door
cause they might know whats going on afterall they did had a thargoid waship given to them so
if its the thargods they might allready contacted the alliance and they just dont want to share the alien tech with us!
 

CMDR CAHN

CMDR CAHN
There is something I find very weird about ED universe and how it is portrayed in Galnet (since it is our only cannon source for news). It is a science fiction universe right?. It has a simulation, there is a reaction for every action in the universe. For example when the feds move in on something, imps respond. When one side sends battlecruisers, the other sends aswell. When one of them is building new ships, the other builds new ships aswell. Etc. Yet this is not really the case with the UA/UPs. News and happenings are missing on this huge topic somehow it seems. Humanity finds some alien artifacts and this common knowledge across the galaxy. We know it is being researched. Yet no information is released to the public about the nature of these things. No autopsy(assuming these things are living things), no chemical analysis, no lab research done on these is released afaik. This makes no sense! Not just tinfoil folks like us but pretty much every person in the galaxy would be going nuts about these things even in 3302 and demanding answers.

Lets try to find an excuse to this lack of action/reaction: superpowers do not release their research on the UA/UPs to the public. Fine, but how about civilian researchers? Pretty much anyone can get their hands on one of these, research them and then release the information to the public. Then there is Professor Palin, he's supposedly researching these, he collected a lot of UA's and tens of thousands of meta-alloys. What is his reseach results so far? We dont know. And this makes no sense.

Lets consider the possibility that Galnet is somehow censoring these news. It would not matter, news of such things would spread anyway because there is so much technology everyone. We all know censorship is less and less effective with advances in communication technology. By 3302, it would be absolutely useless unless they silence the outputs of the researches, which again is impossible because there are UA's and meta-alloys all around the place.

I believe it is only logical, considering these things that there should be a proper Galnet news piece about what we humans have learned about the artifacts so far. Hell they would be releasing information as soon as it is acquired!

Therefore I demand that FD release a Galnet news article detailing scientific lab findings concerning all things of alien/unknown origin!!!

tinfoils /sign please
 
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Ericlas

Ericlas
Tigorath said:
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It is odd that cargo racks can only carry TWO items. Perhapse by putting a UA in with another commodity would start the process. I expect meta alloys and such has been done. Unknown fragments are a material so they don's really go into the cargo hold as such but I wouldn't count that out. If there is any other commodity or item out there such as AI relics then they might be a catalyst. Definately something rare and / or illegal.
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I paused for some months and saw those racks somewhere mentioned in this thread for the first time.
I did a little research on where and how to get them afterwards.
As far as I understood it there was a CG unlocking those racks at Palin.
The higher tier the community reaches, the higher their capacity would be, resulting in those cargo racks available right now with 2t space.
(Read it on reddit -no pun intended- somewhere, not able to recall where, so please correct me if i got that wrong)
 

Elianydd

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Jmanis said:
The immediate "Logical" places to look are in vicinity of:
- Pleiades (because that's the center of everything)
- Witch Head and California Nebula (because barancles are located there)
- Barnard's Loop (because it's similarity to the barnacle logo, and the sudden locking-off of most of it's surrounds.
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It seemed to me that the convoys with the UPs were in the general direction of Barnard's Loop with respect to Sol... (If we assume that the Federation was, in fact, "finding" these UPs out in space someplace and trying to bring them back, one would expect to find them along the "path" they'd take.)

Just wish I had more time right now to pursue investigations myself and help out with the general effort more.
 

MyklAtrum

MyklAtrum
DialBforBiscuit said:
There's a theory that the UP spawn systems will be in the shape of a thin column outside the US shell, but not by much.

The reasons for this theory:

1. The UA spawn pattern was originally small and condensed around merope
2. The UA spawn pattern grew AWAY from merope over time
3. UA seems to be a broad scanner. Scanned ships, planets, stars etc. And pointed to a star. It's spawn pattern was broad as well.
4. The UP seems more detailed, effects internal systems of a ship and points to a specific planet. More fine tuned scanning. Might have a finer, smaller spawn pattern.

Put this together and the UA shell was a scan wall that stopped when it found -something- then the UPs got deployed on a vector between merope and that something. It will most likely be a small column or cone and expand in size after the next update. This would also match the UP image we got. The lower left quadrant could be seen as 1 big or 2 smaller columns extending outwards from the UA shell. (Nearly anything in space will match a circle and some lines, though.)

I'm flying around the outside and inside of the shell, specifically points between merope and other nebula and the bubble. Checking for SS near stars and planets so it's taking a lot longer than I would like. UAs pointed to a star and spawned by a star. UPs may only show up near planets because they point to a planet.
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I was one of the ones talking about this theory on the discord group yesterday. Figured I'd add my thoughts.

I'm working off of the assumption that they are looking for something in the Merope area. Mainly because why else a probe? With this assumption, what I see is a giant shell, or what I'm starting to think of more as a net, forming around Merope with the UA. We know the shell wasn't there originally, and only formed after they were found within 20lys of Merope. So maybe they found their target system, then spread out to form a net around it. We know they scan ships. Why would they do that? Only reason I can come up with is to monitor what goes in and out of that shell just in case what they are looking for leaves or enters. Now, once you have your net setup to monitor the area, you create a probe that goes in and checks with more detail maybe? Either way, that probe has a target and an origin. Which to me, would logically form a line in space somewhere. If you add in the barnacles (and I'm not entirely sure about this part, or their role in it) the "logo" does look a bit like the Barnards Loop and surrounding nebulae area. So maybe their origin is out in that direction. Could we find probes on a path between the Merope system and one of those areas? Maybe. This is all speculation at this point.

I've seen a lot of people saying they don't know where to look for free floaters. Or feel like its an aimless search. Or that we don't have enough data to come up with a logical location for the probes. I said after MB mentioned his comments yesterday, that we needed to disregard what we know of the probes and start with what we knew before them. Because that was the data that would lead us to the next step in the puzzle. Everything in my theory there only accounts for what we knew before the probe. Need somewhere to search and have no ideas yourself? Start with Merope, pick a nebula, start flying. Assuming you see my theory as possible, that is. :)
 
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Michael Brookes

Game Director
CMDR CAHN said:
There is something I find very weird about ED universe and how it is portrayed in Galnet (since it is our only cannon source for news). It is a science fiction universe right?. It has a simulation, there is a reaction for every action in the universe. For example when the feds move in on something, imps respond. When one side sends battlecruisers, the other sends aswell. When one of them is building new ships, the other builds new ships aswell. Etc. Yet this is not really the case with the UA/UPs. News and happenings are missing on this huge topic somehow it seems. Humanity finds some alien artifacts and this common knowledge across the galaxy. We know it is being researched. Yet no information is released to the public about the nature of these things. No autopsy(assuming these things are living things), no chemical analysis, no lab research done on these is released afaik. This makes no sense! Not just tinfoil folks like us but pretty much every person in the galaxy would be going nuts about these things even in 3302 and demanding answers.

Lets try to find an excuse to this lack of action/reaction: superpowers do not release their research on the UA/UPs to the public. Fine, but how about civilian researchers? Pretty much anyone can get their hands on one of these, research them and then release the information to the public. Then there is Professor Palin, he's supposedly researching these, he collected a lot of UA's and tens of thousands of meta-alloys. What is his reseach results so far? We dont know. And this makes no sense.

Lets consider the possibility that Galnet is somehow censoring these news. It would not matter, news of such things would spread anyway because there is so much technology everyone. We all know censorship is less and less effective with advances in communication technology. By 3302, it would be absolutely useless unless they silence the outputs of the researches, which again is impossible because there are UA's and meta-alloys all around the place.

I believe it is only logical, considering these things that there should be a proper Galnet news piece about what we humans have learned about the artifacts so far. Therefore I demand that FD release a Galnet news article detailing scientific lab findings concerning all things of alien/unknown origin!!!

tinfoils /sign please
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You are the civilians - feel free to submit a GalNet article. As for censoring [REDACTED].

Michael
 

MyklAtrum

MyklAtrum
CMDR CAHN said:
Lets consider the possibility that PILOT'S FEDERATION is somehow censoring these news.
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There. I fixed it for you. But yes. Go read the Galnet on the history of the PF. They run Galnet as well. A good portion of our ship's systems are designed by them. They are able to lock our ships out of sectors of space by locking our FSDs. Lots of media released on public Galnet is very obviously biased. Jaques official message on the jump was VERY different from his personal Galnets on the station. Lots and lots of tinfoil here.
 

DialBforBiscuit

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Maybe this problem needs a new approach, something like a gentle whisper
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Jmanis

Jmanis
MyklAtrum said:
Oh? Maybe because it was too close to THE TRUTH!
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Well, I did have a bit of a whinge a while later as well, a freelance article got published about the potential for the UP EMP effects to be part of modern human weaponry... my whinge was basically that I submitted a UA-collecting CG which got rejected for being "Too similar" to an upcoming CG, which was the first meta-alloy CG.

Whole point of my CG was basically for research into EMP-type weaponry (long story short: convert a station to high-tech) based on the ability of UAs to shut down stations and degrade our systems. Kinda sucked to see an idea I pitched (and got knocked back on) in Dec 2015 come up as an accepted idea in July 2016... put me off writing more articles for now.

Also got my original UA morse discovery article rejected because I was a Patreus supporter, and wrote in a way that connected the discovery to his faction. (attributing "things" to powers is a no-no)

So,,, would't be the first time I was too close to the truth ;)
 
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MyklAtrum

MyklAtrum
Jmanis said:
Well, I did have a bit of a whinge a while later as well, a freelance article got published about the potential for the UP EMP effects to be part of modern human weaponry... my whinge was basically that I submitted a UA-collecting CG which got rejected for being "Too similar" to an upcoming CG, which was the first meta-alloy CG.

Whole point of my CG was basically for research into EMP-type weaponry (long story short: convert a station to high-tech) based on the ability of UAs to shut down stations and degrade our systems. Kinda sucked to see an idea I pitched (and got knocked back on) in Dec 2015 come up as an accepted idea in July 2016... put me off writing more articles for now.
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Ah. I can definitely see how that could put you off. It would probably do the same to me.
 
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