UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Bungalo]

Not quite clear on this.

You are saying for a given amount of health the UP seems to change its "cycle" speed based on location?

I am able to make videos if you need a test doing.

If the above, on a planet's surface seems like it might be a decent test since it takes degrading health out of the equation.

I think I would measure cycle speed as time between consequetive howls (strip lights coming on).

There will be more "notes"(high or low purrs) based on the UPs system. I used 50% UP health as that was plenty of time to tell the rate of the notes without making a needless risk. Likely before 50% the rate difference would be evident.

I'll see if I can catch you tonight. My in game Cmdr name is the same as my forum handle.

The tests just need to be in the Sphere of Influence of what you are testing. For starters the brown dwarf in pleione (either one as I think there are two) would be good to check. there should be 33 notes (ie 11 triplets) by the 50% mark (if it behaves like pleione 4 and pleione 3a). If that holds true we need to test more systems and see how fast the notes are going.

EDIT: No need to go planet side. You can tell the rate well before the UP degrades. The sphere of influence seems to be all that matters, you are in the planets sphere of influence in space as easily as on the ground. I personally dont trust my SRV, its eaten more UPs than anything else I know

@Riz, did those tests ever get put on the front page?

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Great work.

Perhaps it purrs faster when it's closer to it's target, like a metal detector?

Very possible... theres a change in the rate and that would seem to indicate *something*. We need to know if it changes based on planet type, system, or etc.

 

[bitstorm]

OMG, I just deployed the UP to test and the game bloody crashed.

This is a brand new UP that was replaced only today due to a bug. :O

Man this is getting far too stressful. [ugh]

 

[mach10]

Okay, I'm diagramming the solution to the image.. taking me a while longer than I thought, but wanted to give people a chance to get there in time and may need to leave now. You need to be in Merope at 5C in orbit above the crater and you have 5 hours and 10 minutes to be there.

 

[Bungalo]

OMG, I just deployed the UP to test and the game bloody crashed.

This is a brand new UP that was replaced only today due to a bug. :O

Man this is getting far too stressful. [ugh]

I feel your pain as what happened to me was quite similar. Ideally the next test should be by a brown dwarf in pleione. If it behaves the same as it does (as far as the purrs, we know it wont wail there) by pleione 4 then thats a good indication that the UP's purrs are more frequent based on system rather than a particular planet/planet type.

 

[LordZoltan]

OMG, I just deployed the UP to test and the game bloody crashed.

This is a brand new UP that was replaced only today due to a bug. :O

Man this is getting far too stressful. [ugh]

dayum dude.

 

[mach10]

Yes, the Unknown Artifact sure is more advanced, The Unknown Probe has to return back to Merope 5C to send the data it records.

 

[IProgenyI]

With this latest test involving the increase in 'purrs' based on some alleged proximity, are people only testing this with UP's as it might actually seem more likely that UA's might hold some use, especially with the corrosive cargo racks which i think might imply the need to travel a large distance for a significant amount of time, this would hold true if the we need to do this 'metal detector ' type test.

 

[mach10]

Wow, we really over thought what the image meant. The Unknown Probe has to return to send data due to short range communications. This also answers the question as to how to obtain UPs more efficiently and in the wild. Also answers why the probe points at Merope and function/purpose. We know where it reports back, but I wonder to what in Merope 5C and why.

 

[Colonel Kenney]

With this latest test involving the increase in 'purrs' based on some alleged proximity, are people only testing this with UP's as it might actually seem more likely that UA's might hold some use, especially with the corrosive cargo racks which i think might imply the need to travel a large distance for a significant amount of time, this would hold true if the we need to do this 'metal detector ' type test.

If its beeping more often in Pleone its going to be somewhere else in the cluster. I'd recommend Maia next. Especially near the black hole.

 

[MyklAtrum]

Wow, we really over thought what the image meant. In about 5 hours you can have a 'wild' Unknown Probe of your own! This will allow you to capture/honk a wild unknown probe. Going by orrey this will happen at 12:00am EST.
http://i.imgur.com/aksIiOY.jpg

Im going to kick myself if any of this ends up being right... But why would they make it so only people who are able to get on at ONE time can get the probes? Seems.. Unlikely. And why would the spectrogram lead us back to itself?

 

[bitstorm]

FWIW I managed to get this before client crash and loss of UP :

[video=youtube;zenhzYYfAG0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenhzYYfAG0[/video]

Those strip lights man, they stay on for quite a time.

 

[Bungalo]

If its beeping more often in Pleone its going to be somewhere else in the cluster. I'd recommend Maia next. Especially near the black hole.

Currently, Merope *may* be the odd duck. I've just grabbed one of Vent's recordings in CR-U d3-29 (specifically the A1, one) to check and it is going the same rate as the pleione recordings.

But since I've looked at 3 points of data it needs much more research... ><

 

[mach10]

Im going to kick myself if any of this ends up being right... But why would they make it so only people who are able to get on at ONE time can get the probes? Seems.. Unlikely. And why would the spectrogram lead us back to itself?

It happens at a hard coded time, the spectrograph is directions of what the probe does and when. The 'wild' UPs return to transmit data they gathered. Due to being less advanced than the UAs, they have shorter communications range. I don't know how many come back at a time, it could be many. Also the wild UPs spectrograph will look different has hinted by MB.

 

[bitstorm]

Wow, we really over thought what the image meant. In about 5 hours you can have a 'wild' Unknown Probe of your own! This will allow you to capture/honk a wild unknown probe. Going by orrey this will happen at 12:00am EST.

That's 12am EST Earth time right?

Sounds plausible. =p

 

[mach10]

That's 12am EST Earth time right?

Sound legit. =p

I looked at the Orrey with the planet in orbit, in-game time I have no idea how long it took, but by real world time it was about 12:00am EST. Look at the image and item J and K. This all happens at a certain point in Merope 5C's orbit.

 

[Rixaeton]

FWIW I managed to get this before client crash and loss of UP :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenhzYYfAG0

Those strip lights man, they stay on for quite a time.

That is beautiful work, from both an artistic and scientific point of view rep + and keep up the good work.
I can see the bugging out of the UP would be so frustrating... I wish I could join yo in the research, but by combat skills are negligible, and I am not up to getting racks from Palin yet.

 

[bitstorm]

I looked at the Orrey with the planet in orbit, in-game time I have no idea how long it took, but by real world time it was about 12:00am EST. Look at the image and item J and K. This all happens at a certain point in Merope 5C's orbit.

Oh right, you are not saying that it's linked to Earth time, more some alignment will be there that coincides with 12EST.

Well maybe then, I guess not long to see if your theory pans out.

 

[Stillsober]

Wow, we really over thought what the image meant. In about 5 hours you can have a 'wild' Unknown Probe of your own! This will allow you to capture/honk a wild unknown probe. Going by orrey this will happen at 12:00am EST.

This also puts to rest the question of which probe is most advanced, the Unknown Artifact I believe. The Unknown Probe has to return to send data due to short range communications. This also answers the question as to how to obtain UPs more efficiently and in the wild. Also answers why the probe points at Merope and function/purpose. We know where it reports back, but I wonder to what in Merope 5C and why.
http://i.imgur.com/aksIiOY.jpg

im skeptical at best but we need a break so hey if it works great.

 

[Rixaeton]

I looked at the Orrey with the planet in orbit, in-game time I have no idea how long it took, but by real world time it was about 12:00am EST. Look at the image and item J and K. This all happens at a certain point in Merope 5C's orbit.

I think Orrey is not accurate for the Merope 5c orbit - I suspect the orbital rate of 3.3 days is not accurate enough, so now the Orrey looks like it is out of synch with Merope 5c. While I was comparing the orbital planes to match the angles on the message the angle of the rings of Merope 5 (relative to Merope5C orbital plane) did not match. I suggest taking measurements at Merope 5 to be sure of your time.

 

[Shaewyn]

Currently, Merope *may* be the odd duck. I've just grabbed one of Vent's recordings in CR-U d3-29 (specifically the A1, one) to check and it is going the same rate as the pleione recordings.

But since I've looked at 3 points of data it needs much more research... ><

More Data! Here!

I went and counted Purrs and Chirps from MyklAtrum's recordings (and you were involved I think?) Good recordings, anyway.

Here are the Purr/Chirp Triplet counts for 3 minutes for each of the the 6 recordings. Note: I counted from 1:00 to 4:00 for each recording.

                  Purrs      chirp triplets      Purr Rate/Min      Chirp Triplet Rate/Min
Merope 5               18      7                 6.0                 2.3
Merope 5 cleanest      18      10                6.0                 3.3
Near Merope            18      14                6.0                 4.7
Near Merope Cleanest   17      13                5.7                 4.3
Merope 5c              17      9                 5.7                 3.0
Merope 5c Cleanest     18      4                 6.0                 1.3

Observations: Purr rate remains the same, regardless of location. Chirp triplet rate changes. I'm not yet willing to say that the rate is correlated to location, but the fact that the rate does in fact change is interesting.

Highest rate is near Merope, lowest near Merope 5c.

Theories: Is the rate dependent on distance from a Barnacle planet? Does it depend on the type of astronomical body that it is near? Or do the chirps contain other data, and the chirp rate is merely indicative of more detailed data being sent?


Also, a cursory examination of the chirps shows that, while they are in sets of 3 like the symbols on the key, the chirp triplets frequently come in sets of the same 3 (3 highs or 3 low chirps), which do not show up on the key, so I strongly suspect the key does not decode the chirps.