UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Allant Doran

Allant Doran
CookieJarviz said:
There was a galnet post a few days ago. maybe a week or 2. That explained whats happend between us and the thargoids. The last thing we did to them was the mycoid virus. It never mentioned a cure...
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Yeah I saw that post. Makes me think that the only alien interactions mankind has had are the early, violent days with Thargoids and then nothing since the Mycoid virus.

I suspect the events in Elite Dangerous are the canonical follow up to everything post-Mycoid.

I personally am becoming increasingly convinced that the UA and Barnacles are from two different species. For basically no reason, I'll admit that at least. I do think one (probably barnacles) is at least of Thargoid ancestry.
 

CookieJarviz

CookieJarviz
Ozric said:
No what you said was they were friends with us in past games. Not only have they not featured in any past games (I am obviously not including Oolite), but there is no record of us being "friends". Not that such things stop you from sprouting them as fact.



That's not strictly true. Basically everything that happened up to the point of the end of Frontier still happened. The last mission in Frontier where you could take the virus or cure to them, did not happen.
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well let me fix that then. They were friends with us in the lore. and we have some interaction with them.
 

Kloopy

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Jorki Rasalas said:
But doesn't that just mean if high pitch equals 1 then the first triplet is counting down? I think for the moment you've got to consider both possibilities; one of them will lead to meaningful info while the other won't.
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I agree, but the fact it's counting up from 1 convinces me :) It'd be counting down from 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and repeating which really doesn't make as much sense as 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and repeat. I'll keep an open mind but all my thought is going into high=1, low=0

Respect, CMDR. o7
 

Keybuk

Keybuk
Celebratory screenshot of a free-floating Unknown Probe:

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Digital Dan

Digital Dan
Kloopy said:
So the 4 numbered sections must use the "key"... You earlier said that the spectrogram was a key and I interpret that as the "legend" meaning of key, like on a graph.

It's too convenient that there are 4 numbered sections (pending confirmation the recording we have misses a high-high-high or zero bit at the start) and there are 4 numbered sections to the key.

There was a second commander sharing audio of the 4'th section of the message, which means the message is unlikely related to the CMDR (or his/her ship). Therefore it's safe to assume the message is describing something about the system and transmitting it to Merope 5C.

So what about transmission in Pleiades Sector KC-U b3 matches the key?
? / 7 2 3 # 1 7 5 0
1 / 2 3 1 # 3 7 2
2 / 1 6 5 5 # 3 3 0
3 / 2 2 0 1 # 3 1 0
4 / 2 0 7 / 2 1 7 5 1 2 3 # 1 7 5 0 / 1 2 2 / 1 4 2 2 1 # 1 7 5 / 2 1 0 / 3 4 3 # 1 7 5 0

http://i.imgur.com/YawVY9G.jpg

Can someone please take a UP to another system nearby, drop the UP and sit between it and Merope, then record it? Upload and share the audio so we can see if the transmission changes in each system?
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I get a slightly different transcription to yours. Differences are:
- ? after the first wail sounds like a clear high high low to me (--| in Probese, or 001 in binary) and there's no gap before the next part (like after the later wails)
- there are different size gaps or spaces, sticking with your alphabet I've used "/" as Probese for a short space and " " for a long space
- on line 3 (ending 330) I think that should be 310

So this is my attempt at transcribing it:

Probese:

"wail" = the wailing sound
"-" = high tweet (and 0 on spectrogram key)
"|" = low tweet (and 1 on spectrogram key)
" " = long space
"/" = short space
"#" = separator (chittering tweety sound)

wail --| ||| -|- -|| # --| ||| |-| ---
wail --| -|- -|| --| # -|| ||| -|-
wail -|- --| ||- |-| |-| # -|| --| ---
wail -|| -|- -|- --- --| # -|| --| ---
wail |-- -|- --- ||| / -|- --| ||| |-| --| -|- -|| # --| ||| |-| --- --| -|- -|- / --| |-- -|- -|- --| # --| ||| |-| -|- --| --- / -|| |-- -|| # --| ||| |-| ---

Binary:
wail 001 111 010 011 # 001 111 101 000
wail 001 010 011 001 # 011 111 010
wail 010 001 110 101 101 # 011 001 000
wail 011 010 010 000 001 # 011 001 000
wail 100 010 000 111 / 010 001 111 101 001 010 011 # 001 111 101 000 001 010 010 / 001 100 010 010 001 # 001 111 101 010 001 000 / 011 100 011 # 001 111 101 000

Octal:
wail 1723#1750
wail 1 231#372
wail 2 1655#310
wail 3 2201#310
wail 4 207/2175123#1750 122/14221#175 210/343#1750

Decimal:
wail 979#1000
wail 1 153#250
wail 2 941#200
wail 3 1153#200
wail 4 135/588371#1000 82/6289#125 136/227#1000
 
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Ozric

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Ozric
For those wanting a bit more clarification on how the lore stands now compared to Frontier you can watch this interview with MB https://www.twitch.tv/djtruthsayer/v/66485194

CookieJarviz said:
well let me fix that then. They were friends with us in the lore. and we have some interaction with them.
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Let me fix that for you then. Remove the word friends. Just because they didn't constantly kill us on sight I don't think is enough justification to call them friends, it's not even like there's not been conflicts between the Oresrians and us before.
 

Digital Dan

Digital Dan
Kloopy said:
I agree, but the fact it's counting up from 1 convinces me :) It'd be counting down from 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and repeating which really doesn't make as much sense as 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and repeat. I'll keep an open mind but all my thought is going into high=1, low=0

Respect, CMDR. o7
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Using high = 0 and low = 1 after the last four wails the symbols match the spectrogram key exactly: --| -|- -|| and |--
I'm also pretty convinced it's this way round. Keeping an open mind though (for science :)
 

draca

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For any members of the canonn on xbox, i have a probe sitting in my condas cargo hold for whomever wants to run out to maia to pick her up, id keep it for my own experiments but i don't have reinforced cargo bays, so, if you want a probe for experimentation, DM me who you are so we can meet up and i can give her to you.

-Draca
 

dynamicbob

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checking a heavy metal content carbon dixoide world with 9% ammonia as a subsidary atmopsheric chemical, ill report location if i can confirm that UPs spawn in orbit around these as well
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Ozric said:
I'll refer you to something I said a few weeks ago (and a while before ;))




I do believe they are indeed searching for them.
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If the UPs had been created by Feds from UAs then UPs would be pointing to, and sending their transmission to, a planet in Fed space, not Merope 5C! The UPs are now sending that transmission, so it's nothing to do with any historical launching of them from 5C hundreds of years ago.
5C is logically at the heart of this puzzle. Since there is no Imp or Fed base there then there is something else's base there, as we can't find it then it has been hidden there. Tie that in with the Galnet hint of metamaterials being able to bend light in strange ways and you have the basis for a camouflage mechanism. How do we uncover that camouflaged presence- the obvious things are either (a) the UP EMP or (b) Electronic Countermeasures since Galnet recently hinted they may be derived from alien technology.
 

dynamicbob

Banned
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micheal brookes if u care to respond ( no biggie if not) but there are anamoly threat 1 and 3 potentially being ingame are there other easter eggs that we may not have discovered yet that we can look for ( just a simple yes or no if thats all u can give away)
 

MrDobilina

MrDobilina
I think what they've done is scale down the first contact and make it seem more like a skirmish war between outlying colonies and unknown agressors. Some larger corps got to grips with what was going on and POTENTIALLY unleashed the toxin in the first games as a preventative measure. But this is partially speculation given the galnet article only has some detail.
 
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