Don't know, haven't checked on SC @ gamscon. I've been too distracted by the guy dressed like a Mariachi guitarist show off the mind-blowing
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Don't know, haven't checked on SC @ gamscon. I've been too distracted by the guy dressed like a Mariachi guitarist show off the mind-blowing
Not much of a Mariachi costume, it's not remotely Mariachi-ish. He's probably not much of a guitarist, then.
I found this trailer for 2.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzLdWPNNkYs
Yawn. No wonder they passed on E3.
I found this trailer for 2.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzLdWPNNkYs
Yawn. No wonder they passed on E3.
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Nothing new shown so far. Streamers in the Hangar, Streamers in Vanduul Swarm, Streamers in ArcCorp. Streamers getting daring and going into the Test 'Verse until it crashes on them (or they get too trolled by players in their instances messing about for the camera).
Captain Richard seemed to take the glitches in his stride with good humour pretty much - there were quite a few..
Oof, it's like Hollywood bodged up their remake of Thunderbirds.
That's really the point. You're both technically correct, depending on what the point of the simulation is. Both approaches can be done, but one is honestly more applicable to a game development, and the other more along the lines of a MatLab engineering simulation. If you want that level of detail in your game, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. But like so many other things in SC, they keep going to the far extreme in replicating processes at the expense of actual enjoyable game play. And the computer resources required to maintain this kind of fidelity will drag the simulation into the weeds. You could probably even strike some sort of balance between the two paths, setting specific O2 loss levels dependent on pre-defined areas of wall missing. But much like trying to use actual metabolic data to replicate real O2 use, it serves no useful purpose in a game. Fidelity does not always equate to fun.
You mean the trailer that says "not actual gameplay? What about it?
The outrage of that trailer was funny, so many people seemingly unable to read. FD released a ton of in-game videos and people complain when FD produce their first CGI trailer, and has the audacity to say its a CGI trailer. What a horrible company, making a CGI trailer and telling people its one.
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I learned long ago that regardless of what is written, people will misrepresent or infer the meaning behind what others post/write/say; which is why I endeavor to choose my words carefully so that I can refer back to what was said and bluntly state the intended meaning when it's misrepresented.
You're quoting a post that is almost 4 years old when the state of the game and it's development has changed drastically. You may not like that they are open to other avenues to accomplishing their goals while simultaneously developing their game within their planned road-map but I find that behavior commendable. The reason why I find that commendable is because I'm the type of person that likes to measure twice and cut once. So if I were to design and develop a game (which I am doing outside of my daily grind) I would want to know the best possible way of implementing what I want while also continuing to develop my game. Some don't like this approach because of the risk of being in development hell but lets not kid ourselves by proclaiming that this way of development is wrong or invalid.
Furthermore, while this kind of development does extend the time of releasing the product or makes it seem like they are waffling; however, this kind of development allows them to be malleable enough to change components if they reach their limits. Case and point, the use of the CryNetwork to facilitate multiplayer in AC. Like I described many pages ago, they had to use something to get multiplayer up and running. In the meantime this allows them to research and develop other ways to get the networking they desire. Because of CryNetwork's inherent limitations, they now have to implement something if they want to allow more users per instance (hence why they are switching to the new network code they've been slowly developing).
I cannot account for the given excuses for AC's delay (revamping a custom network code) a couple of years ago; however, it was apparent, to me at least, that they were developing their own networking code but decided to use the embedded CryNetwork just so they could get something out. This allowed them more time to design and research possible solutions to their networking woes.
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On the topic of describing then redefining what an instance is, I still don't see how I misrepresented then redefined what an instance was especially since I mentioned that the word itself doesn't have an exact definition even after you tie it to game networking. To me the most basic and simplest definition of an multiplayer game instance is: an indeterminate amount of users who are connected to a server that's running one or more game states and said users interact with each other. Tell me how I was wrong
On the bright side, they already have an engine that sends information about those 20-30 trillion cells to everyone in game, so that's one less thing to refactor
Like seriously though, Braben is now simulating tectonic plates and lava flows (of all kinds of matter, ice flows too), this has to be one upped
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Or in plain English, you don't know how CIG are going to implement networking in SC, because they are still working on the architecture. At a time when they are trying to fob off requests for refunds with claims that the game is almost finished. So who is trying to kid who?
CR will now undoubtedly be refactorizing tectonic plates and volcanism into SC 
CR will now undoubtedly be refactorizing tectonic plates and volcanism into SC
But will the servers be able to handle real-time plate tectonics updates?
New PTU patch 2.5.0i
And Gamescom Show Floor Gallery
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15470-Gamescom-Show-Floor-Gallery
Alpha Patch 2.5.0i has been released to the PTU, and is now available for players to test! During this initial testing phase, PTU access will be restricted to a small group of players that we will expand on over time as required.
Your launcher should show “2.5.0-391052” as the client version. It is strongly recommended that players delete theirUSER folder for the Test client after patching, particularly if you start encountering any odd character graphical issues or crash on loading. The USER folder can be found (in default installations) at C:\Program Files\Cloud Imperium Games\StarCitizen\Test.
The full 2.5.0 Patch Notes are located here. Please take full advantage of our Issue Council area of the Community site to report any bugs you encounter, as well as contribute to other players submissions.
Important Callouts:
Star Systems:
Crusader
Arena Commander
Your launcher should show “2.5.0-391052” as the client version. It is strongly recommended that players delete theirUSER folder for the Test client after patching, particularly if you start encountering any odd character graphical issues or crash on loading. The USER folder can be found (in default installations) at C:\Program Files\Cloud Imperium Games\StarCitizen\Test.
The full 2.5.0 Patch Notes are located here. Please take full advantage of our Issue Council area of the Community site to report any bugs you encounter, as well as contribute to other players submissions.
Important Callouts:
- We put in further fixes to help fix the desync issues in both Crusader and Arena Commander.
- Please be aware that the desync issue might still be present.
- We are aware of issues with the port mod options disappearing intermittently.
- Updates and Fixes
- Star Systems
- Game Systems
- Ships
- Technical
Star Systems:
Crusader
- Fixed an issue where destroyed and abandoned ships would sometimes not cleanup in Crusader.
- Fixed an issue preventing the CryAstro large pads from restocking, refueling, or repairing ships.
- Fixed an issue where players could clip through geometry behind the KC Trending shopkeeper.
- Updated some of the control panel screens in the EVA escape shaft at GrimHex.
- Fixed several issues with the GrimHex elevators that would lead to player deaths.
- Fixed an issue within KC Trending that prevented the shelving from properly appearing.
- Fixed some GrimHex decals that were incorrectly placed.
- Fixed some material collision issues within GrimHex.
- Fixed an issue where the satellites in GrimHex had no collision.
- Fixed various issues around GrimHex where lighting and structures were not appearing appropriately.
- Fixed an issue that prevented the landing gears from deploying properly for certain ships.
- Fixed an issue with some materials popping in and out at certain angles in the Aeroview Hangar.
- Fixed an issue with item placement in the SelfLand Hangar.
- Fixed some material collision issues within SelfLand Hangar.
Arena Commander
- Fixed an issue where ballistic weapons would not restock in any Arena Commander game mode.
- Fixed an issue that prevented players from appearing hostile if they had a Criminal rating,
- Fixed an issue where hitting high G-Force would cause the pilot’s head to twitch in unusual ways.
- Fixed an issue where the ship computer dialog would not play.
- Fixed a bug where the Constellation Andromeda’s power plant was floating in the cargo bay.
- Fixed an issue where the Freelancer’s right door would not open properly.
- Fixed several client crashes.
- Fixed several server crashes.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15470-Gamescom-Show-Floor-Gallery
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That definition you provide there isn't really the same as what you said before
more to the point, state how Dual Universe's technique for multiplayer is 'essentially what CIG is doing'
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But will the servers be able to handle real-time plate tectonics updates?
Yes of course. Each plate will be composed of individual crystal lattices of various rocks and / or metals / ices. They will be chemically modelled, and the shear stresses measured to the finest detail. Magma will be modeled in ultra high fidelity in both high and low temperature / pressure environments - and it's spread, cooling, crystallization and viscosity models all based on real physics. We know this because CR will code it. At night. On a 360 gamepad
Yes of course. Each plate will be composed of individual crystal lattices of various rocks and / or metals / ices. They will be chemically modelled, and the shear stresses measured to the finest detail. Magma will be modeled in ultra high fidelity in both high and low temperature / pressure environments - and it's spread, cooling, crystallization and viscosity models all based on real physics. We know this because CR will code it. At night. On a 360 gamepad
Sounds crazy, but remember it will only have to simulate in real time within your immediate vicinity; as the molecules get further away they'll be updated less often. Here's a video of something completely unrelated to prove that it will work and that Roberts was right all along, somehow.
[video=youtube_share;5AvCxa9Y9NU]https://youtu.be/5AvCxa9Y9NU[/video]
To me, there's a huge difference between having an idea and actually bringing it to fruition. Clarke is always credited with being the father of modern satellites because he envisioned something flying around the planet to aid in communications etc. But the real creative genius is with the ones who actually made it happen.
Given CIGs track record, it's wayyyyyyy too early to give CR credit for anything besides dreams. They haven't even been able to solve the relatively simple and basic aspects of development like collisions/clipping, being able to knock ships flying simply by walking into them etc etc.
I'm gonna be honest with you, that guy led up to this whole condescending thing where he's like "WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THIS WAS EUCLIDEON'S GRAPHICS ALL ALONG" and it was kinda obvious the whole time
so I stopped watching
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