2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?

Do you want ship and module transfer, if so how long should it take?

  • Yes, I want ship transfer.

    Votes: 1,869 71.1%
  • No, I don't want ship transfer.

    Votes: 90 3.4%
  • Yes, I want module transfer.

    Votes: 1,522 57.9%
  • No, I don't want module transfer.

    Votes: 137 5.2%
  • Transfer should be instant.

    Votes: 638 24.3%
  • Transfer should take a small fraction of the time it would take manually.

    Votes: 656 25.0%
  • Transfer should take a large fraction of the time it would take manually.

    Votes: 585 22.3%
  • Transfer should take at least as long as it would take manually.

    Votes: 696 26.5%

  • Total voters
    2,629
  • Poll closed .
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Robert Maynard

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in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

What were the poll questions?

I ask as this poll has 725 to 28 in favour of ship transfer - but the duration of transfer has been asked as four separate questions....
 
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in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

Yup, again the original backers/early players are the "killjoys", how dare they...

FX2K has the right idea!
 
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i think that Transfer should take at least as long as it would take manually.
becouse everybody will fly in asp explorer and just taking all ships from stations.
 
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in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

This puts cat among the pigeons eh!? :D +1

Mind you .. MOST people would probably like a large rail gun on their sidewinder too? :rolleyes:
 

Slopey

Volunteer Moderator
About credit cost for insta transfer: I wonder if the people interested in that abomination realize that paying 50M is paying with the time it took them to make those 50M. It becomes really expensive then. Shooting their own foot, maybe?

Look at the gamescom last stream today - right at the end where the quick recap happens - Adam says "you can transfer your ship instantly, for a small nominal fee".

https://youtu.be/YszL6AorYKo?t=47m49s

Millions it likely won't be.
 
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in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

That poll doesn't have any kind of log-in or authentication. You can vote as many times as you want. In this thread's poll everyone gets exactly one vote.
 
in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

It's a poorly done pool TBH, are the people saying they like transferring ships or the instantaneous nature of it? I'm pretty strongly against instantaneous transfer, but pro ship transfer as a feature, and I wasn't even sure what to vote.
 
What were the poll questions?

I ask as this poll has 725 to 28 in favour of ship transfer - but the duration of transfer has been asked as four separate questions....

leading question like if you ask people if they like coffee. :D
Trader Joe's instant Coffee, all sugar coated and ready for travel.

Do you like Coffee

1. yes
2. No
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I haven't read the rest of the thread, but the idea of instant transport is bad. It should be based on shipping distance and how much you want to pay for speedy service :)
 
i think that Transfer should take at least as long as it would take manually.
becouse everybody will fly in asp explorer and just taking all ships from stations.

but it will take half the time actually, because going to the station is not needed. You just call there and the ship comes. As if this wasn´t good enough
 
What were the poll questions?

I ask as this poll has 725 to 28 in favour of ship transfer - but the duration of transfer has been asked as four separate questions....

"What do you think about the Instant Ship Transport system?" with "I'm fine with it" and "I don't like it as options".

Not surprising it sees different numbers. Personally "I'm fine with it", but I still think it's a bad idea and it should take time.
 
Ouch...Why not have a ETA based on LY. I'm with mrsanders on this.

Yeah, it should be easy enough just to time stamp something and have the client check when it pings the servers looking shipping/shipyard screen.

Could even pay for express, standard, or economic delivery times! Would actually be kind of cool, I think.

Point is, it should at least take some kind of meaningful time that encourages players to think ahead and play the game in an immersive and compelling way.

No reason to settle for handwavium magics here. FD needs to acknowledge the significance of these kinds of issues and avoid them when viably possible.
 
About credit cost for insta transfer: I wonder if the people interested in that abomination realize that paying 50M is paying with the time it took them to make those 50M. It becomes really expensive then. Shooting their own foot, maybe?

Could i just choose to wait for my ship instead of paying any sort of ridiculous amount of credits, as some are suggesting?

+1 to this
 
Calling the feature unrealistic because it *should* realistically take time is a bit of a fallacy, considering that:

OKKKKKK!!!

-cargo loads and unloads instantly when trading-- never heard a complaint about that.

Affects players ship locally only. Impact on other players or events confined to under a few minutes max.
Note DBOBE did suggest at one point player loading of cargo could be a thing IIRC. ;)

-refueling is instant

Affects players ship locally only. Impact on other players or events confined to under a few minutes max.

-repairing is instant

-refitting and ship building are instant

Both affects player ship locally (however could have more of an impact in an ongoing incident in nearby system space - granted).

-Engineer upgrade rolls are instant

True. Could be improved by having a time delay before module becomes available.

-transit from ship death to station is instant

-rebuy ship claim and construction are instant.

Large penalties for death stop play completely.

Gentlemen, and ladies, and others, we have a comparison that equates a few things that have marginal impacts at best, with a thing that stops gameplay dead if not treated with some compromise, with the topic of our ongoing debate, which is a thing that speeds up play by some undefined margin, but certainly depends on player choice and location. Apparently, as the two things on the ends of the spectrum involve compromise, we must accept a complete compromise on the thing in the middle!

As my space pirate grandpappy used to say, "Rise up! Never surrender!". (He should have trademarked that... would have made a mint if those Coriolis guys hadn't stolen it!)

And yes, I believe it would be nice to have an escape pod to fly to the nearest station on ship destruction, but of course time and resources needed for implementation. And you'd all hate it as a 'timesink'. ;)
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
wow, that puts salt in the wound

Given Frontier's comments regarding accessibility and reducing barriers to play, I don't expect that transfer will be that expensive - otherwise the cash poor will still have a barrier to play (in regard to this particular mechanic).

They may as well make it free....
 
in poll on reddit, 78% said they're fine with instant transfers (out of 2000 people). So I guess it's just the other 22% on this forum that don't like it lmao (I like it, faster the better imo)

Wrong. That "straw poll" that has the same result as the first two choices in the forum poll. "Do you want ship transfers?" Yes/No. If they left out the "instant" they'd get the same result, because of course people want ship transfers. That's not the question!!!

The question is, should they be instant?? And that Reddit straw poll fails to ask that question.

But on this forum poll, they actually give the option to say you don't want it to instant, and guess what? 78% do not want it to be instant.

Also straw polls are extremely easy to cheat. Nothing on Elite Reddit ever gets above a few hundred upvotes, let alone THOUSANDS. :rolleyes:
 
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