The devs are obviously trying their best to make a balanced successful game and so far the game is great. Instant ship transfer though (and instant commander transfer, should it happen later...please no!) will definitely make me consider whether buying season three is a good idea.
Don't we WANT to support the devs RIGHT NOW?
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I've definitely spent more money on Elite than the average player. Game, merchandise, books, clothes,.. all that stuff.
But right now I really don't like what looks to be the direction the game is headed. I don't know if I will still enjoy the game in let's say a year. As long as that uncertainty exists for me, I can't justify further purchases as money well spent.
But right now I really don't like what looks to be the direction the game is headed. I don't know if I will still enjoy the game in let's say a year. As long as that uncertainty exists for me, I can't justify further purchases as money well spent.
As critical (whiney) as I have been and still am of the game, the fact is it's still unfinished. Substantially so. For me, the parts of the game that I've always wanted to see are still to come, be that in the near future (passengers) or an unknown point in the future (landing on inhabited planets). Do I enjoy things like Powerplay, Engineers, Wings, landing on various rocks etc? Nope. They're wholly uninteresting to what I want from the game and so the playability remains essentially unchanged from way back. I only ever wanted Frontier updated to today's sound and graphics, and ED seems to be getting there, just not in the order I want.
I think the devs deserve our support, that they've earned it even if they haven't provided the things I want yet. The more time passes, the more I'm confident they will... eventually.
I think the devs deserve our support, that they've earned it even if they haven't provided the things I want yet. The more time passes, the more I'm confident they will... eventually.
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When it comes to Frontier & Co I genuinely wish them all the success in the world. However, if they want me to restore my positive review of ED they can fix combat logging, or at least do something about it, anything actually... Till then, it stays as it is. Childish? Counter productive? Maybe, but after nearly TWO years I've lost patience.
Planet Coaster is something I'd tip to be a tremendous success. I've played it a bit and for those who like the genre I suspect they are going to go mad about it. I don't even play those games usually and I enjoyed it. Likely a game that lends more towards Frontiers traditional strengths.
Its also worth remembering, as nice as some of the folks at FD are, we are customers and Frontier is a profit making business, not our bestest pal.
lol yeah I've been there, you are not alone in getting upset about ED. Ultimately we invest so much of our time and self into it, I don't think its an unusual response. I've yet to punch a wall over it though, that reward goes to Starcraft II, had to stop playing that it got me so angry.
Planet Coaster is something I'd tip to be a tremendous success. I've played it a bit and for those who like the genre I suspect they are going to go mad about it. I don't even play those games usually and I enjoyed it. Likely a game that lends more towards Frontiers traditional strengths.
Its also worth remembering, as nice as some of the folks at FD are, we are customers and Frontier is a profit making business, not our bestest pal.
lol yeah I've been there, you are not alone in getting upset about ED. Ultimately we invest so much of our time and self into it, I don't think its an unusual response. I've yet to punch a wall over it though, that reward goes to Starcraft II, had to stop playing that it got me so angry.
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Never a truer word typed and posted in this entire forum.
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Well yes, I am a star wars fans, but not to the point where it's overbearing and controls my life, or anything else that could be attributed as 'hardcore'.
The slight difference I see as well is that NGE's changes happened pretty much overnight whereas Elites casual-ification has happened over the course of its lifespan: a little cut here (repair/refuel costs), a little tweak there (adjusting vulture and FDL ship prices) a bit of precedent setting (overriding the BGS in a CG), and before you know it, you've got a very different game from the initial marketed one.
I'm not an idiot, and I do get why they want to do this. Unlike other similar games that could keep things as they are, Frontier don't receive monthly subscription fees or anything like that so as a business they've got to try to open their game to other markets because otherwise it won't be as profitable as it could be. at the end of the day, they are a business.
I agree with you regarding TOR feeling like more of a SW experience btw (due to the aforementioned biowaste storytelling).
^same here. +1
You seem to think that my request for a narrow lore-based implementation is about super-realism.
Well, Elite has only ever been realistic to a certain extent, and actually lost its way a bit when it went too far down that path ( Newtonian flight for example).
No, I'm talking about internal consistency in a slightly dystopian future that stems from the basic premise that you need space pilots to move things around.
I dont want to support them. They are murdering a piece of art that i care about, through, what looks like to me, laziness and opportunism. Why would i want to support that?
Imo someone needs to be fired for the engineers and this instant transfer and 3d printing looks like an even bigger fiasco.
Braben drones on about his respect for science and aversion to making players do drudgework and what we get is instant transfer, 3d printing and the engineers.
Maybe they sold out for venture capital money, maybe they are listening to consultants, maybe they now have enough money that they dont really care, but i have spent 60$ on elite dangerous since july 7 and if i would have known about the engineers first hand and upcoming plans for the game i would have kept my card in my pocket.
Imo someone needs to be fired for the engineers and this instant transfer and 3d printing looks like an even bigger fiasco.
Braben drones on about his respect for science and aversion to making players do drudgework and what we get is instant transfer, 3d printing and the engineers.
Maybe they sold out for venture capital money, maybe they are listening to consultants, maybe they now have enough money that they dont really care, but i have spent 60$ on elite dangerous since july 7 and if i would have known about the engineers first hand and upcoming plans for the game i would have kept my card in my pocket.
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We haven't even got all details about the updates yet. How people can complain so much is beyond me.
So the entire dev team including DBOBE? Crikey.
But we already know how it will be implemented since FD told us. So in your opinion nobody should say a word until 2.2 is released? I can see what that would lead to.
"Why didn't you say something earlier? Now it's all done and finalized."
People are working with the information that has been given to them... There is still time to adjust things before beta...
I think that current explosion of angry comments is a VERY VALUABLE FEEDBACK for frontier. Many commanders post very constructive and logically consistent thoughts...
I would not call this complaining.
Quite. I would very much like more logic and consistency. However that doesn't always bear out in great mechanics. As they say, preaching to converted. I have lost count of the numbers of times religious or emotional debates rage on and I'm thinking 'logic would sort this but neither camp will accept it', so here we are.
It's a fine line between realism, and redundancy.
I support Frontier with all my heart, least I can do NOW BEFORE 2.2 is to let them know what I think and post on this forums...
...and buy a T-shirt with sidewinder schematics on it ;-)
...and buy a T-shirt with sidewinder schematics on it ;-)
TBH, Horizons is probably the last "full support" I give FD. Elite right now is a time sink where unless you actually enjoy Supercruise (and I don't) a large part of that time just isn't fun. Now all this could change if FD announce atmospheric planetary landings with plenty of things to do and see on the planets (NMS has spoilt me in that regards, but throws a bit TOO much at you in the beginning). Oh and a recoverable black box system for exploration data. Maybe better acceleration/deceleration in SC as well, faster planet scans too. Until then I'll probably only stump up a tenner here or there for seasons when they have sales.
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its my opinion and i spent my money just like everybody else, if you dont like it, put me on ignore.
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FD are a company. you like their products and the way they work you use them.
you dont, then you dont.
They are not your grandad (unless someone there is of course). Me personally i supported FD with more money on 1 game than i have ever spent on a game, and i will continue to play that game as long as i enjoy it, but i wont be supporting them due to some strange loyalty that makes me feel i should... FD will drop ED just as soon as it is no longer financially viable, and they will change ED into anything they feel will earn them more money at the end of the day so really, do not put them on a pedestal... Equally however they are not some evil villain who are trying to pee on your chips and calls to fire key members of staff made by some are just nasty.
The tough decisions come when you like a product but you dislike the company practices around that product.. then you have a real decision to make... point in question.. Whats App!
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