Don't we WANT to support the devs RIGHT NOW?
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I second that. Certainly didn't make me want to quit the game!
Exactly my point too...
Remember all its early days and like a 2yr old child we will be amazed as they grow and will surprise us, too early to write the child off.
Its a wait and test and then see, before emotions take over and jumping of the gun happens.
My criticism stems from a heartfelt desire for this game to achieve its potential.
I truly believe that if FD stuck to a narrow lore-based ethos of what being a pilot in this universe is about and consistently apply the consequences of that to all their content and game design decisions, then ED would be the greatest game ever made.
Instead, we get logically detached expansions and inconsistent functionality and quick fixes that just don't make any sense.
It's that gap between what I visualize and what I get that is disappointing.
Most of what we get is pretty awesome, but then there are the glaring howlers that detract from that.
Game development is a tough business and gamers are possibly the harshest critics of all.
I just hope that the thick skins that are required to survive aren't clouding judgements regarding the direction of the game.
I truly believe that if FD stuck to a narrow lore-based ethos of what being a pilot in this universe is about and consistently apply the consequences of that to all their content and game design decisions, then ED would be the greatest game ever made.
Instead, we get logically detached expansions and inconsistent functionality and quick fixes that just don't make any sense.
It's that gap between what I visualize and what I get that is disappointing.
Most of what we get is pretty awesome, but then there are the glaring howlers that detract from that.
Game development is a tough business and gamers are possibly the harshest critics of all.
I just hope that the thick skins that are required to survive aren't clouding judgements regarding the direction of the game.
What about if you are a vegan?
Lolsies...im seriously hungry now...hahaha
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It wasnt 'hardcore star wars fans' they upset.
They'd managed to annoy their core market, which was people like me who liked the idea of a immersive world that played within the constraints of its lore and where your decisions actually mattered and what you did impacted on the game world
I for example, ran factories that supplied a lot of the imperial guilds on my server.
Then NGE came out completely gutting the complexities of the game in favour of a plan to capture the more 'casual' market share, which drove a lot of the old guard away as they felt it had deviated too much from its mission goal (sound familiar?)
TOR is just a very pretty NGE type experience with biowaste storytelling (which is its strongest hand). Everything else about it is bland imo.
But what drew to the game was the fact that you were a pretty big Starwars fan in the first place no?
Point being Starwars fan + MMO fan + messing around with a formula was always going to be a cluster****.
As stated, its not the same situation as what is happening here. The forums have lost their **** over one feature out of many which in no way is casualising the game to the point of ruining it. There is still complexity in ED, but SWG obviously before NGE had a lot more complexity so when they changed it the impact was far greater, thats the difference here. ED was not that complex in the first place.
Off topic, but personally for me I found (when I played it) TOR a far better Starwars experience than SWG. But I found SWG a far better MMO / emergent gameplay experience.
You can guarantee that if auto pilot is introduced AFK farming and botting will be common place within weeks. No thanks
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I think they should make the galnet feeds easier to access when flying, or maybe a little mini-game. I think auto-pilot defeats the point of a game about piloting, but yes, if they are nervous of the less immersed market, I think some form of -pit distraction would be wise.
As for supporting FDev, personally speaking, I support by being honest. I stood by and defended the Engineers. I never saw the same issues other had. I defended the AI decisions. All because I felt there were reasons there that were justified. I could see the OTHER side, naturally, but of the two, I felt FDev was doing the right thing, making the game and listening.
I was mildly disappointed by the passenger aspects of 2.2 initially, I had to concede myself in the end they didn't sound bad at all.
On this, I think they're making a very bad call, and to me, the upset on this forum, something I've not seen here or for a long time on any other forum, indicates that there is a BIG issue with the transport feature. Many are happy with it, many people. That's fine. But I understand why it isn't for others, and those issues seem really quite problematic as they cut across so many levels. I think they're wrong on this, very wrong. Not because they don't know better, I can see exactly why they've made this call and trying to stick to it. From a Development point of view, it does open the game to the type of players that the game rarely really cradles, and may open it to less sci-fi exploration markets. But from a player point of view, and as someone who takes interest in video games academically as well as having some vocational experience, I feel there's a big issue here that does need addressing and not side-lined with answers such as "3-D printers". Immersion reasons are just a small part. It's bigger than that, and needs addressing.
Heck, if it only needs addressing from the fact that a large percentage of their loyalty base is really upset. Even if they don't get it, or the supporters of the idea don't get it, surely the fact there is this massive resistence requires some serious dialogue?
So yes, I support them. I respect them, and I think its a shame 2.2 has had a bit of a cloud suffocate the big news on their official forums (if no where else), but it's done because people care, care a lot, and feel if they don't speak up, they are doing the game and the development a big disservice through dishonesty.
The GREAT DREAM , it seems given DB YouTube Science and Realism, was just that , as the bell just went off on the Microwave and the POPCORN is ready , but darn it took a WHOLE two minutes.
I think the boffins are working on that impediment to not been able to eating instantly the moment you think POPCORN !
I choose to support Fdev by showing them "tough love."
Also, Pom Poms. Got that idea from Bomba
Also, Pom Poms. Got that idea from Bomba
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100% same here. In my case it was an FAS.
I agre with you. In my fleet I always buy ship skins as prizes for any and all contests or tournament we have the fleet loves them oh and the bobbleheads too
This pretty much aligns with my thoughts
You are not alone ;-)
Appealing to the casual audience is a proven mistake.
The first mistake devs make is trying to imitate popular games by copying its mechanics, not understanding that Casuals are not lured in by the mechanics of the game, casuals won't read the gaming press and only follow social trends, they are lured in by marketing and hype, which is why No Mans Sky sold so much despite nobody knowing anything about its actual gameplay. That is something you can only get with unreleased games.
Appealing to casuals in a "hardcore"(I really don't like that word) franchise, only serves to alienate your already existing target audience, and this has happened way too many times. The fact that some devs are still falling for this, leaves me perplexed.