I wasn't berating you for it. One can hardly be expected to do so. Just expect a very low probability of proposing something that hasn't been mentioned in the past few weeks of this incredibly heated argument.
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I wasn't berating you for it. One can hardly be expected to do so. Just expect a very low probability of proposing something that hasn't been mentioned in the past few weeks of this incredibly heated argument.
Me too. Full time job, Concert Band, social life.....yet I want timed transfers. Why is a *maximum* wait of 100 minutes such a massive "inconvenience" for some people?
Yes, we all do.
However the 'instant gratification squad' like to use that as an excuse.
If ship transfer becomes instant... then why should I have to plot a course to get to Beagle Point, Jaques Station or the Formadine Rift? I should be able to insta-transfer to them because it takes way too many jumps and drags down my game-playing enjoyment! It isn't fair to people who only have 30 minutes of playtime. People won't have to use the insta-teleport mechanic if they don't want.
Also FD should tell us the whole story of E: D already; I don't have time to wait until they dole out "clues." It really affects my gameplay, not knowing what's going on. Also, we should be able to leave cargo in a ship so that we can summon them halfway across the Bubble instantaneously for the best profit.
Also FD should tell us the whole story of E: D already; I don't have time to wait until they dole out "clues." It really affects my gameplay, not knowing what's going on. Also, we should be able to leave cargo in a ship so that we can summon them halfway across the Bubble instantaneously for the best profit.
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No, your argument is not cogent, unless your proposed solution is not to have a ship transfer mechanism at all. The reason for this is that you have set up a false dichotomy between "no immersion" (instant ship transfer) and "total immersion" (delays on all operations) with respect to logistics. Having a delay mechanism benefits from "increased immersion" relative to the instant mechanism, and you don't "lose" immersion from not having delays on other operations.
If you argue that if we have delay for immersion's sake, then we must also have delay on the other operations for immersion's sake, you forget the other reasons for the delay mechanism and that there is a constant immersion/gameplay tension.
Indeed. They could use that time to get on with some of their "obligations" and "commitments" they keep whining about, that have nothing to do with the game.
My apologies to you then.
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This is exactly one of the major arguments against instant transfers. You would be removing the need for choices/compromises regarding ship build. The different capabilities of the ships were supposed to be a balance.
If you have 10 ships stored at different locations across the bubble and you want to consolidate them all to a new home system you can now do that at the press of a button. Instead of having to perform 20 manual flights you can now do all that by selecting and pressing TRANSFER 10 times. Done.
Judging from this thread, if it truly reflects how the community feels about this topic I would say the delay people have it in the bag. FD should send an email to all players informing them of this poll to get the best turn out. If the delay is implemented I think this will be one of the worst decisions in MMO history.
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They can do that already without forcing every player to wait for their ships. The mechanic is balanced with cost. There is no gameplay benefit at all for a timer. It's a stupid system that has no excuse. I'd be willing to compromise with a tiered system that has a higher price or lower price dependent on speed, but if instant transfer isn't an option on release I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive this community for screwing up the best quality of life feature frontier ever promised us
Agreed. What cost is there to gameplay by having a delayed transfer mechanism?
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I can't believe that instant transfer proponents actually think that going from no transfer -> delayed transfer is somehow a bad decision?
Unless they believe that no transfer should be allowed at all.
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Voted instantfingers crossed for enabling more game time for me and others with obligations outside the game.
A delay mechanism would still solve this problem for you since at the moment there is no mechanism for transfer at all.
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I just found that having instant transfer opened up more and easier opportunities to play with other people. If i am transferring my fdl to system so i can bounty hunt with some friends i doubt i am gonna wait at the other end for 30+ mins doing missions or and hope that they will still be waiting for me when my ship arrives. what will end up happening is i will just log out till my ship arrives.. and while i will admit that is my choice i have a feeling it'll be the same for alot of people. Seems like it will encourage people to log out instead of play the game.
Also if it ends up delayed will i have the option to cancel the transfer? Pretty lame if plans change and my ship is in limbo for who knows how long.
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but will it be possible to request ship transfers to other stations in addition to where you are docked?
Doing so would allow ships to be waiting for you when you get there. Of course, if you don't pick up your ship, you'll need to arrange for a return transfer.
Doing so would allow ships to be waiting for you when you get there. Of course, if you don't pick up your ship, you'll need to arrange for a return transfer.
And i feel if instant win, ED will loose his saoul and many users like me and it will be thé worst décision ever in a space simulation multiplayers game.
Transfer requests in advance...
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but will it be possible to request ship transfers to other stations in addition to where you are docked?
Doing so would allow ships to be waiting for you when you get there. Of course, if you don't pick up your ship, you'll need to arrange for a return transfer.
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but will it be possible to request ship transfers to other stations in addition to where you are docked?
Doing so would allow ships to be waiting for you when you get there. Of course, if you don't pick up your ship, you'll need to arrange for a return transfer.
This is an interesting idea.
Why not instead of transferring a whole ship across the galaxy why not sell it from where you are and buy a new one? Information travels near instantly in this game, why not send a message to the station holding your other ship and tell them to sell it and credit you the money and then you use that money to buy a brand new ship? This wont give you any the special/upgraded modules you might have installed but would be pretty much instant for those who want a faster way of doing it.
I for instance have about half a dozen vipers sitting in different stations around civilized space and Id rather just be able to sell them all from where I am and not have to travel to each station with one and sell it there.
This seems like a no-brainer to me, if you can send a message to have something sent to you you should be able to tell them to sell it instead.
I for instance have about half a dozen vipers sitting in different stations around civilized space and Id rather just be able to sell them all from where I am and not have to travel to each station with one and sell it there.
This seems like a no-brainer to me, if you can send a message to have something sent to you you should be able to tell them to sell it instead.
Exactly!
Sheesh! I'm really troubled by how uninformed some of these people are about things.
Oh man, I think you're right. I mean what do the delay people have??? Apart from the upper-hand in: logic, lore, internal consistency, game-play, BGS, CGs, player group interactions, player-player interactions, and the fact that the only reason this is even an argument is because someone blurted out instant in a stream.
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