The Star Citizen Thread v5
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None of them were assumptions. None of them were baseless. Your usual inability to dispute those facts does not turn them into something they're not.
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Actually they are. If you read them without smart glasses.
lol No, what I linked proved me correct.
So you are going to count development for other games as development for ED. ok, you will be the first to do this. And if we did do this then SC has been in development since Cryengine came started, nvm there are a lot of games that you would then claim started 10+ years before their actual start date.
Edit: Sorry I had not read the mod note, who reads ahead? Will stay on SC, just don't like misinformation getting passed about.
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Then you'd have absolutely no problem proving them all wrong. And yet you go for the sweeping assertions without anything to back them up, which only ever suggests that you have nothing — nothing — in the way of support of an actual counter-argument.
In other words: prove it.
Prove that the money hasn't been spent (in spite of their saying so every time someone asks for refunds).
Prove that the non-digital perks have been delivered.
Prove that the original concept is still what's being delivered.
Prove that the original team is still around.
Don't just go “nuh-uh” — prove that you have even the slightest shred of something that, at a very long distance, could at least briefly be confused with something that might resemble an idea of what you're talking about.
That's not how it works ; )
The one that makes the claims is the one that needs to back them with the facts.
Until everything is factually prooved. Its baseless claims. Specially from someone with a history of lying, making things up by extrapolation of an Super Alternate reality.
The one that makes the claims is the one that needs to back them with the facts.
Until everything is factually prooved. Its baseless claims. Specially from someone with a history of lying, making things up by extrapolation of an Super Alternate reality.
So prove your claim. Why are you so utterly incapable of doing so?
…and those are exactly why you need to prove your assertion.
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Alien, you're correct
When the Kickstarter launched they already had playable demos of ED with ships flying in asteroid belts. It was a long way past "just an engine".
Here's the kickstarter link, with videos of Ebefore the KickStarter finished...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/description
The "flying through asteroids" video came in a later update, the KS was already running for quite some time, and DB himself said that this was an early test without sound, without effects, it was really just a ship model with projectiles and very basic multiplayer. No cockpit or HUD either, that came much later.
This is what they had at the start of the Kickstarter:
And none of that is in the game now. You could apply the same line of thinking to Star Citizen of course, what with them shifting their "vision" and whatnot - but even then both projects would be pretty much even in terms of start date.
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Thats not how it works, it wasn't me who made the claims. I just called them out. Its up to him to sgow proof od tgose claims ; )
Star Citizen released its first playable version in 2014, hopefully ots development continues for many years to come. Just like WoW.
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I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Lol. Ok, I loved that and I'm a SC backer.
You made a claim that, over and over, you are proving yourself incapable of supporting with anything. Why is that? Why is it so hard to actually address the points? Why can you offer nothing to support your already very weak argument?
None of it is hard, and yet, you seemingly can't do it.
Oh I didn't mean it as a blanket truth purely for here, just as a general thing across all forums and articles relating to SC. Even I have given rep to Orlando on the rare occasion when he actually says something that doesn't look like pre-prepared marketting or sales speak
I've probably spent far too much time laughing at the obnoxious Reddit SC related forums though
Now that we know JohnMice can't support his own claims, can we change the subject? To anything?
He doesnt need to, you keep responding anyway. Which is the only goal here.
Lol. Ok, I loved that and I'm a SC backer.
Yeah, the kid is adorable
Btw. I was a backer too
That's not how it works.
If you make acusational claims about someone or its business you need to back them with facts. If you want to post like you are his lawyer you might as well act like one. ; )
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Fair enough. Negative proofs are very curious things anyway…
I'm still curious what the actual supposed “building controversy” is. It can't just be that old door, can it? It seems like far too small (and improperly timed) a thing to drag half a dozen different corporations to court over.
Yes it is. You made a claim. Now you need to offer evidence to support that claim. If you are rejecting a negative claim, you do so by asserting the positive and proving it. You are effectively making the exact same claim he is, only inverted, which means you still have the burden of proof. It's all very simple. Doubly so in this case when finding such support is a few keystrokes away, and yet you refuse to do even that.
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Hi Chris.
It was obvious in 2013 already that he KS money did go to Turbulent for building the entire JPEG ship selling platform (called "site relaunch" back then) and into those cheesy "ship advertisements". Therefore it did not go towards development of the pitched game, which was funded by fresh JPEG money coming in later. Gaming press didn't pick up on that at all of course.
An important point is that the trickery already started on Kickstarter. This is how it works: As crowdfunded project you set a specific funding goal high enough that allows you for developing the pitched project. If you fail to reach that goal within 30 days, nothing gets paid out and everything goes back to the backers. CR set a $500.000 goal knowing that he needs at least 23 millions for doing what he pitched there. You know what this is called?
Kickstarter fraud.
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