Asp - Why is it whenever I read one of your posts I feel a need to buy an Idris.?
I don't know what an Idris is - but I want one!
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Asp - Why is it whenever I read one of your posts I feel a need to buy an Idris.?
I don't know what an Idris is - but I want one!
Oh Derek my dear friend... you're passion allways obscured your reasoning. We've come a long way... way before you adopted Smart as your last name (I know and understand your reasons, no biggie one does what one has got to do to cope with these things).
And yes Derek, your info comes from us that feed you stuff in the SA thread and the rest is up to your imagination.
We are the same guys that mocked and alienated you 10 years ago and we are doing the same now, and you know it, but since it suits your agenda you roll with it.
You know that both Bootcha/Beer/Ace or any disgruntled ex-employees are just using you, you can try and use them back to raise "awareness" for your cause but you know that there's no way that this will end up good for you, but you don't really care, there's really nothing left for you besides GamerGate and StarCitizenHate.
The thing is, there's no stopping this Star Citizen train, whatever you and your gang of hecklers try: mock/ harass / stalk / CIG staff at will, scavenge for all the furniture, concept art, lawsuits, peoples personal life at will, do your best at being your worst. It doesn't matter in the end it's just lulz while the Big Boys work.
And people do care about what I do think and post, that's why they feel the need to post back. As you know Star Citizen as now way way more than 500.000k paying backers. In 2015 alone they got 178 million page views and 9.5 million visitors while having 80,000 players playing the 2.0 Crusader Universe. Have a look at the videos in their channel, their weekly show has +100k views , the minor ones go from 20k to 50k. Their gamescom demo amassed millions of views between the 3 official versions and around 4.5 million$.
What's the number of the haters cultists that you gathered? 50? 100?
Just because you try your best to keep screaming and shouting very loud adnauseum doesn't mean people will listen. It's the opposite really, like I said, you burned your bridges by making this personal, you are emotionally attached and that's hindering your judgement even when using the text-book trolling tactics. You went from "Warlord" to "Oh Lord". Oh yes your twitter stats are also impressive 32k tweets 90% about Star Citizen or it's Staff, talk about having a collective aneurysm over a video-game. [rolleyes]
Why do you say I've lost it? Do you see me punching coke machines or shouting from the top of my lungs so that you let me fk finish? Might as well call my PSD Nam Vet friend to clear things out.
You want sources about your 2015 Gamescom diatribes, sure you asked for them.
Just skim trough the pages while you sip your coffee, careful to not spill it. [big grin]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfJgirJ-HgI
Enjoy Citizens!
I'm not going to try and interject in your (and the entire fanbase) thing with Derek.
But you have to admit - it doesn't really matter.
All the problems and complaints with SC don't exist because DS talks about them - they're there for everyone to see in full view - the whole thing is a matter of public record.
We all know what to expect from citizen Con.
But all eyes now are on the miracle patch 3.0 - if that fixes everything and comes out on time then maybe people will cut some slack.
But until then it's all fantasy - but at least it is still funny.
ETA - can we choose a colour yet for the Idris - or is that V.38?
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CMDR_Orlando
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I agree and said so in my post:
If you are eager for a Idris or any of the Capital ships just wait for Citizencon & the November Anniversary sale, just be reminded those are ships aiming for Orgs and not for solo play.
This video might help:
[video=youtube;EiDWT8i6Mb4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiDWT8i6Mb4[/video]
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The Idris is a glint in CR's eye - made entirely of purest nonexistanium - and features everything in the SC universe that you could ever hope to aspire to being indifferent about. The jpeg pixels are mined, by hand, by nubile space princesses, and delivered to you by electrons that CIG have personally invoked into being just for you.
It's the only ship in SC that a true Citizen would ever be seen in. It's the only ship that shows your true commitment to the vision. It's the only ship that tells the world that you are not some subpar Org scrub who ought to be washing pots on an Aurora.
Believe in the vision.
Buy an Idris!
You need one, go get it!!
I need one! How much are they?
Yes? And? (Actually, no, and… there are real-time flight models to the ships — they're just very scaled down).
The question was why does it feel more vast and open?
They are only ten, TEN, of your worldly US $100 denominations. A bargain!
But WAIT there's MOAR!
In order to give you the best possible value, CIG has seen fit t give you oodles of EVERYTHING in a special package - buy the equivalent of five Idrises and you get fantastic loads of other junk FREE!
Yes - that's a million dollar value right there - and all yours for the incredibly low price of only 8.21 Bitcoin! Hurry - stocks are limited!
Buy an Idris
The Fidelity!
The Immersion!
The Dream!
The Immersion!
The Dream!
They are only ten, TEN, of your worldly US $100 denominations. A bargain!
But WAIT there's MOAR!
In order to give you the best possible value, CIG has seen fit t give you oodles of EVERYTHING in a special package - buy the equivalent of five Idrises and you get fantastic loads of other junk FREE!
Yes - that's a million dollar value right there - and all yours for the incredibly low price of only 8.21 Bitcoin! Hurry - stocks are limited!
Buy an Idris
Ok.. I'm sold on this.
Anybody here need a Kidney? Going cheap...
(please?)
What I meant was that it's a less relevant comparison than something like AH in terms of the type of game, then I mentioned planetside in reference to the arena/play field size. So it might have been my poor use of grammar which confused you.
The gameplay in EvE doesn't need to synchronise precise user input in absolute real time. When you command your ships you don't avoid projectiles based on immediate minor movements of your controller and what clients see isnt necessarily exactly the same at the same millisecond. There is a massive difference in what you can do in terms of network traffic
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1.
Mate no Offense.
But watching that Video and Seeing what DB actually Promised on Stuff. You guys pretty Defeated yourselfs there.
Because Sorry. But I dont see any List of when we See Planets with Animal Life and Plants and Cities etc.
FD apparently has promised an Gigantic Tons of Features for ED. Which they aint even listing anywhere anymore.
The Announcement as to what is going to be within this Current Update of Horizons. And that without any ETA.
Because there is no ETA Here.
Albeit I.ll gladly see you prove me wrong and tell me. When we can actually Expect to Walk around on Planets.
Now for Fairness Said. If your looking for this Announcement of whats in the Near Future Updates. Its not the Stretch List your Looking For.
But the Current Feature List for the Currently Ongoing Alpha 2.5
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list
And the Announcement for Alpha 3.0 which is Due for within 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3YBuFI3iI
Because what your Posting there as "Roadmap" is not an Roadmap.
Its an List of what Features are already in the Game for this current Installment.
And an List of what Features are Planned within this Season.
Which is the same for Star Citizen.
Which has an Feature list as to what you currently have in Alpha 2.5
And an Announcement as to what you can Expect in Alpha 3.0 which will Hit within 2016.
2.
No Mate.
What you Posted for ED is not an Roadmap either. And its not Resembling an Roadmap either.
What you Posted is the CURRENT Feature List with Features Due for THIS CURRENT SEASON. Which you already Paid for.
Thats not an Roadmap.
An Roadmap for an Game means that you have an List of Future Updates to be Expected with an Rough ETA.
In case of ED.
An Roadmap for example would have Details on Season 3 and its different Installments and when you can expect them to roughly Hit.
Listing what you are CURRENTLY working on. Is not an Roadmap. Its an Status Report.
Which Star Citizen is Releasing every Month.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15506-Monthly-Studio-Report
3.
I am not moving anything. YOU are trying to Name Things as stuff they are not actually are.
You are trying to turn this Current Season Announcement and Status List. Into an Roadmap.
But its not an Roadmap.
Your Trying to claim that ED would actually tell you an ETA of Future Features. But thats not the Case.
They are simply Telling you what they are working on right now. And they dont give any ETA for that.
Listing Past Release Dates is not an ETA lol.
And listing the Release ETA for the very next Update is something Star Citizen is doing as well.
4.
And just as an sidenote.
Star Citizen not being Released is not really Strange.
Because ED simply From the very Start went for Delivering an MVP.
While Star Citizen Originally wanted to Deliver an Finished Game rather than an MVP to Build Upon.
This is pretty much the only thing you could stay SC stole from ED.
Because SC Realized that with this Scale they just aint going to Finish this Game before Releasing it. Hence they now Decided instead of Doing everything before Release. They will Follow the Idea of ED. And First Deliver an MVP Game upon which they can then start Building up the Remaining Features.
Thats not really an Viable Difference here tough.
Because CR never Promised to get this Game ready as MVP by 2014 like Braben did.
As I said above.
ED in 2012 from the very Start. Said that they will bring an MVP Game by 2014. Which will have hardly any of the Features they Promised for the Game in Total.
SC has Realized this Mistake. And did announce that they will Press for an 1.0 Build by 2017/2018 having an MVP for Selling.
The Original Idea of SC was to First Finish the Game and then Release.
In that Regard SC actually did Copy something from ED here. Because ED right away only set an MVP. Which should then be Expanded by Seasons you Buy.
While SC wanted to First Finish the Entire Game before Releasing. Which thanks to ever more Stuff being Archieved simply became Impossible. Thus them also changing to Abandon some of the Stretch Goals and Announce to First get a Release Game Ready.
Currently we know. That the Persistent Universe will be Released within 2016.
And we know that the MVP Game is to be Expected in 2017/2018.
That is an Difference in Doctrine. Giving that SC Announced a Different thing to do. And did a Different thing.
But should not be a Difference in Trust given the Announcements.
Especially because the Video I talked about was from 2012. Back the DB did not Release any Game. That only came in 2014. And if you think about this. In 2014 ED neither Told us when to Expect this 2012 Promised Features.
Nor did they Deliver a Complete Game.
After all. Just to use this Passage that People have thrown around on me on the Video. Of DB actually Promising in 2012. That we will be able to Walk around on Planets. And that we will get Planets with Interesting Things like Animals and Big Cityscapes.
I dont think we have these yet. Nor do we have an Eta on when we will get that right ?
1.
Ehm actually you Did.
After all you already Paid Horizons for example.
Out of which you dont know when you get the Space Legs Feature for example.
You actually did so in the past as well. Because as that Video from 2012 is Evidencing. DB has Promised quite a ton of Stuff. Including even Animals on Planets where you can Land and Walk. And Giant Cities you can Explore.
So you did in Effect Pay for this by Buying the Game already.
But I dont see these Features yet.
Yet as you said. Alot of People likely gave Money to this Kickstarter based on these Promises right
2.
I am not actually sure they.ll never Happen.
No Offense but SC has an Gigantic Feature List. So they cant very well constantly Talk about all of those.
And right now they did Announce to be putting Work forward to Deliver a Game rather than Piling up more Features.
So its Logical that they will now Focus on the Primary List First. Which was to Deliver an Persistent Universe for Players to Play in by Flying Spaceships, doing Missions and Fighting each other in Space as well as in First Person Combat.
3.
Thats not Correct either.
After all this Video of DB is from 2012 for the Kickstarter Project.
Where does in Fact ask you for Money. While promising these Features which of many you didnt hear for years now.
He does however now Ask for additional Money on Fullfilling Seasons and which if you Dont Pay it. Will mean you wont get many of these Extra Features.
1.
Its not a Subconscious Fear. Its just that I am talking with like 10 People at Once. Meaning not all my Remarks are Addressed Personally at you.
2.
I dont see how DB and CR have such Different Records.
Both had Experience in Working on Games. And both have Delivered Games and other Stuff in the Past.
Actually DB came pretty close to having a Spot on this very Record cause he nearly Failed Delivering Elite 4 due to lack of Funding. Which is the reason why ED became a Crowdfunding Project instead.
3.
I am not Hammering ED at all.
I am merely Pointing out that there is no Challenge in what you Describe.
See Mate. If we talk about Announcing and Delivering Closeby Updates. Then SC is doing this with the Alphas and their Announcements.
You can Expect from SC to Deliver the Entire Game with all Features and then Claim hes Messed up because he aint doing that.
But give DB a Good Record because he Released an MVP which has hardly any of the Features Promised in 2012.
The Next Horizons Part is Due for within 2016 and Rumored to be October.
The next SC Part is Due fro within 2016 as and is named Alpha 3.0 Which is Rumored to contain the First Part of the Persistent Universe.
4.
LOL.
Nope not Really.
Sorry but Currently I expect ED to Deliver Horizons.
Just as I expect SC to Deliver the Announced Alpha 3.0
No Difference there at all. Both Companies have so far always Delivered these Short Term Announcements.
If we Talk about SC Delivering the Final Game however. Or well the Game which contains all Features Promised in Kickstarter.
Then I am not sure for Both to Deliver.
Because for a Fact. One of this things which David Braben Promised there. About him wanting Planets to be something with tons of Interesting things like Animals and Big Cities. Is something I am not yet Realistically seeing to be Fullfilled.
I do however believe that SC will be able to Deliver an MVP by 2018.
Which will likely contain way more Features than the MVP that ED Delivered in 2014.
5.
For the Double Standart. Pls list a Reference. I said this Statement a few Times. If you dont Reference to what I said it. I cant tell you what I meant there.
6.
Nope.
I am simply saying both should be Treated the same Here.
Its you guys who say this is Ok for ED but not Ok for SC.
So if you say its not OK. Then its not OK for ED either.
If you say its Ok then it has to be OK for SC as well.
I dont care either ways by the way because wether you find the thing ok is your personal opinion.
What I dont find ok is if you say for SC its not OK while it is OK for ED.
You are the guys who Critized this on SC. So I am pointing out this is the very same with ED.
7.
And once more that is not an Roadmap.
Thats just an Announcement for the Current Season.
Its the same as the Announcements for Alpha 2.5 and 3.0 in SC
You could Call it an Roadmap if you limit things to Horizons. And basicly Say its an Horizons Roadmap.
In which case however I could also say that the Gamescom Announcement Provides an Roadmap for Alpha 3.0 of Star Citizen.
And again. I am simply saying treat both the same. Thats not Double Standard.
YOU guys are saying ED (which is doing the same stuff) would be better than SC here. Which is a Double Standard.
Treating both by the same Standards is not Double Standard
8.
Nope.
Your simply Biased like Hell.
9.
I.ll be holding that Bet.
Alpha 3.0 will likely already Deliver something Playable.
And I am fairly Sure that by 2018 we will have a Game called Star Citizen. Which can then start to Build Up.
And I am actually fairly certain as well. That this Game we get by 2018 as an MVP of Star Citizen. Will be Containing an Similar Amount and Depth of Features as Elite Dangerous holds on this Point.
Its true that you can argue that it would have been much better management to go about it like ED. And FIRST put out an MVP Game to then Add Features step by step.
Because that would have meant to get the Game by 2016 already even if like ED not containing a lot of the planned Features.
But then again. Its not Forbidden to try something different. And for a Fact alot of People said that they dislike this trend of the gaming Industry to constantly only Publish a Minimum Product which then needs Years to actually get Build into the Game originally advertised.
I admitted like 5 Pages ago already that it was indeed Planned.
Because Sorry. But I dont see any List of when we See Planets with Animal Life and Plants and Cities etc.
FD apparently has promised an Gigantic Tons of Features for ED. Which they aint even listing anywhere anymore.
The Announcement as to what is going to be within this Current Update of Horizons. And that without any ETA.
Because there is no ETA Here.
Albeit I.ll gladly see you prove me wrong and tell me. When we can actually Expect to Walk around on Planets.
Now for Fairness Said. If your looking for this Announcement of whats in the Near Future Updates. Its not the Stretch List your Looking For.
But the Current Feature List for the Currently Ongoing Alpha 2.5
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list
And the Announcement for Alpha 3.0 which is Due for within 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3YBuFI3iI
Because what your Posting there as "Roadmap" is not an Roadmap.
Its an List of what Features are already in the Game for this current Installment.
And an List of what Features are Planned within this Season.
Which is the same for Star Citizen.
Which has an Feature list as to what you currently have in Alpha 2.5
And an Announcement as to what you can Expect in Alpha 3.0 which will Hit within 2016.
2.
No Mate.
What you Posted for ED is not an Roadmap either. And its not Resembling an Roadmap either.
What you Posted is the CURRENT Feature List with Features Due for THIS CURRENT SEASON. Which you already Paid for.
Thats not an Roadmap.
An Roadmap for an Game means that you have an List of Future Updates to be Expected with an Rough ETA.
In case of ED.
An Roadmap for example would have Details on Season 3 and its different Installments and when you can expect them to roughly Hit.
Listing what you are CURRENTLY working on. Is not an Roadmap. Its an Status Report.
Which Star Citizen is Releasing every Month.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15506-Monthly-Studio-Report
3.
I am not moving anything. YOU are trying to Name Things as stuff they are not actually are.
You are trying to turn this Current Season Announcement and Status List. Into an Roadmap.
But its not an Roadmap.
Your Trying to claim that ED would actually tell you an ETA of Future Features. But thats not the Case.
They are simply Telling you what they are working on right now. And they dont give any ETA for that.
Listing Past Release Dates is not an ETA lol.
And listing the Release ETA for the very next Update is something Star Citizen is doing as well.
4.
And just as an sidenote.
Star Citizen not being Released is not really Strange.
Because ED simply From the very Start went for Delivering an MVP.
While Star Citizen Originally wanted to Deliver an Finished Game rather than an MVP to Build Upon.
This is pretty much the only thing you could stay SC stole from ED.
Because SC Realized that with this Scale they just aint going to Finish this Game before Releasing it. Hence they now Decided instead of Doing everything before Release. They will Follow the Idea of ED. And First Deliver an MVP Game upon which they can then start Building up the Remaining Features.
Thats not really an Viable Difference here tough.
Because CR never Promised to get this Game ready as MVP by 2014 like Braben did.
As I said above.
ED in 2012 from the very Start. Said that they will bring an MVP Game by 2014. Which will have hardly any of the Features they Promised for the Game in Total.
SC has Realized this Mistake. And did announce that they will Press for an 1.0 Build by 2017/2018 having an MVP for Selling.
The Original Idea of SC was to First Finish the Game and then Release.
In that Regard SC actually did Copy something from ED here. Because ED right away only set an MVP. Which should then be Expanded by Seasons you Buy.
While SC wanted to First Finish the Entire Game before Releasing. Which thanks to ever more Stuff being Archieved simply became Impossible. Thus them also changing to Abandon some of the Stretch Goals and Announce to First get a Release Game Ready.
Currently we know. That the Persistent Universe will be Released within 2016.
And we know that the MVP Game is to be Expected in 2017/2018.
That is an Difference in Doctrine. Giving that SC Announced a Different thing to do. And did a Different thing.
But should not be a Difference in Trust given the Announcements.
Especially because the Video I talked about was from 2012. Back the DB did not Release any Game. That only came in 2014. And if you think about this. In 2014 ED neither Told us when to Expect this 2012 Promised Features.
Nor did they Deliver a Complete Game.
After all. Just to use this Passage that People have thrown around on me on the Video. Of DB actually Promising in 2012. That we will be able to Walk around on Planets. And that we will get Planets with Interesting Things like Animals and Big Cityscapes.
I dont think we have these yet. Nor do we have an Eta on when we will get that right ?
1.
Ehm actually you Did.
After all you already Paid Horizons for example.
Out of which you dont know when you get the Space Legs Feature for example.
You actually did so in the past as well. Because as that Video from 2012 is Evidencing. DB has Promised quite a ton of Stuff. Including even Animals on Planets where you can Land and Walk. And Giant Cities you can Explore.
So you did in Effect Pay for this by Buying the Game already.
But I dont see these Features yet.
Yet as you said. Alot of People likely gave Money to this Kickstarter based on these Promises right
2.
I am not actually sure they.ll never Happen.
No Offense but SC has an Gigantic Feature List. So they cant very well constantly Talk about all of those.
And right now they did Announce to be putting Work forward to Deliver a Game rather than Piling up more Features.
So its Logical that they will now Focus on the Primary List First. Which was to Deliver an Persistent Universe for Players to Play in by Flying Spaceships, doing Missions and Fighting each other in Space as well as in First Person Combat.
3.
Thats not Correct either.
After all this Video of DB is from 2012 for the Kickstarter Project.
Where does in Fact ask you for Money. While promising these Features which of many you didnt hear for years now.
He does however now Ask for additional Money on Fullfilling Seasons and which if you Dont Pay it. Will mean you wont get many of these Extra Features.
Okay so with regard to putting more faith in DB than CR; DB has a good track record of delivering what people have paid money for in a timely fashion (whether you think what he's produced is good that's down to subjective opinion). CR continues to talk the talk, and take peoples money, all you have is a bug laden Alpha and a release date that is receding ever further into the future (I never called CR a scammer or a thief so that is just some projection on your part, a subconscious fear of yours perhaps?).
So based on that comparison that's why I would believe in ED and not SC.
Okay you're going to hammer ED for delays of 1-2 months yet let the fact that SC is 2? 3? 4? years behind schedule go?! Double standard much?!![squeeeee]
Oh great looking forwards to this one, go on....
The only difference is that on current performance of both developers ED is much more likely to deliver what they have sold to you within a reasonable time frame than SC. At the moment I would laugh in anyone's face if they tried to tell me that SC will be released and deliver all of its stretch goals, the stuff, y'know , before DB announces Season 3. And yet again not knowing precisely when ED is going to deliver seems to be a bad thing but the same with SC is tolerable (buy an Idris)? I sense double standard here...
This is the closest I think you're going to get to a roadmap https://www.frontierstore.net/games/elite-dangerous-cat/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html. It tells you what they're planning, no dates, but hey you seem happy to let SC get away with it why not ED..... oh is that a double standard I see?
Maybe we're just mirroring your behavior
To be fair to SC and CR I don't think it's a scam at all, I think it's just a terribly mismanaged project that is completely out of control. I prefer to "never assign malice where incompetence will do".
I also would be happy to be proven wrong and SC be a massive success and be the BDSSE, I'll even buy it. But I don't think that will ever happen.
1.
Its not a Subconscious Fear. Its just that I am talking with like 10 People at Once. Meaning not all my Remarks are Addressed Personally at you.
2.
I dont see how DB and CR have such Different Records.
Both had Experience in Working on Games. And both have Delivered Games and other Stuff in the Past.
Actually DB came pretty close to having a Spot on this very Record cause he nearly Failed Delivering Elite 4 due to lack of Funding. Which is the reason why ED became a Crowdfunding Project instead.
3.
I am not Hammering ED at all.
I am merely Pointing out that there is no Challenge in what you Describe.
See Mate. If we talk about Announcing and Delivering Closeby Updates. Then SC is doing this with the Alphas and their Announcements.
You can Expect from SC to Deliver the Entire Game with all Features and then Claim hes Messed up because he aint doing that.
But give DB a Good Record because he Released an MVP which has hardly any of the Features Promised in 2012.
The Next Horizons Part is Due for within 2016 and Rumored to be October.
The next SC Part is Due fro within 2016 as and is named Alpha 3.0 Which is Rumored to contain the First Part of the Persistent Universe.
4.
LOL.
Nope not Really.
Sorry but Currently I expect ED to Deliver Horizons.
Just as I expect SC to Deliver the Announced Alpha 3.0
No Difference there at all. Both Companies have so far always Delivered these Short Term Announcements.
If we Talk about SC Delivering the Final Game however. Or well the Game which contains all Features Promised in Kickstarter.
Then I am not sure for Both to Deliver.
Because for a Fact. One of this things which David Braben Promised there. About him wanting Planets to be something with tons of Interesting things like Animals and Big Cities. Is something I am not yet Realistically seeing to be Fullfilled.
I do however believe that SC will be able to Deliver an MVP by 2018.
Which will likely contain way more Features than the MVP that ED Delivered in 2014.
5.
For the Double Standart. Pls list a Reference. I said this Statement a few Times. If you dont Reference to what I said it. I cant tell you what I meant there.
6.
Nope.
I am simply saying both should be Treated the same Here.
Its you guys who say this is Ok for ED but not Ok for SC.
So if you say its not OK. Then its not OK for ED either.
If you say its Ok then it has to be OK for SC as well.
I dont care either ways by the way because wether you find the thing ok is your personal opinion.
What I dont find ok is if you say for SC its not OK while it is OK for ED.
You are the guys who Critized this on SC. So I am pointing out this is the very same with ED.
7.
And once more that is not an Roadmap.
Thats just an Announcement for the Current Season.
Its the same as the Announcements for Alpha 2.5 and 3.0 in SC
You could Call it an Roadmap if you limit things to Horizons. And basicly Say its an Horizons Roadmap.
In which case however I could also say that the Gamescom Announcement Provides an Roadmap for Alpha 3.0 of Star Citizen.
And again. I am simply saying treat both the same. Thats not Double Standard.
YOU guys are saying ED (which is doing the same stuff) would be better than SC here. Which is a Double Standard.
Treating both by the same Standards is not Double Standard
8.
Nope.
Your simply Biased like Hell.
9.
I.ll be holding that Bet.
Alpha 3.0 will likely already Deliver something Playable.
And I am fairly Sure that by 2018 we will have a Game called Star Citizen. Which can then start to Build Up.
And I am actually fairly certain as well. That this Game we get by 2018 as an MVP of Star Citizen. Will be Containing an Similar Amount and Depth of Features as Elite Dangerous holds on this Point.
Its true that you can argue that it would have been much better management to go about it like ED. And FIRST put out an MVP Game to then Add Features step by step.
Because that would have meant to get the Game by 2016 already even if like ED not containing a lot of the planned Features.
But then again. Its not Forbidden to try something different. And for a Fact alot of People said that they dislike this trend of the gaming Industry to constantly only Publish a Minimum Product which then needs Years to actually get Build into the Game originally advertised.
Read the Past Pages lol.
I admitted like 5 Pages ago already that it was indeed Planned.
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There's a thread on the off topic forums about legalising certain drugs.
I was in favour.
I've changed my mind.
Heads up it's happy time!
Just one thing Sun - CR didn't promise an MVP by 2014 - you're right (that particular piece of didn't surface till this year I think - or late last year). But he did say the game would be out by 2014.
Estimated yes - but next year is 2017 and it might not/probably won't be out by then either.
How much leeway do you think he's due?
(yes I know you'll say lots of people supported the delay - but we have no idea how many did or, how many more didn't).
Just one thing Sun - CR didn't promise an MVP by 2014 - you're right (that particular piece of didn't surface till this year I think - or late last year). But he did say the game would be out by 2014.
Estimated yes - but next year is 2017 and it might not/probably won't be out by then either.
How much leeway do you think he's due?
(yes I know you'll say lots of people supported the delay - but we have no idea how many did or, how many more didn't).
Heads up it's happy time!
Just one thing Sun - CR didn't promise an MVP by 2014 - you're right (that particular piece of didn't surface till this year I think - or late last year). But he did say the game would be out by 2014.
Estimated yes - but next year is 2017 and it might not/probably won't be out by then either.
How much leeway do you think he's due?
(yes I know you'll say lots of people supported the delay - but we have no idea how many did or, how many more didn't).
He said it this year...2016.
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