It's not a symptom of your psychosis it's the route plotter. It gets that way in areas with sparse stars. You think you're jumping to that last star on a route branch, get there and find you now have four routes leading off from it and the route pattern you were following is gone and nothing looks the same. I wish we had a click box for intensive routing within 100 lyrs or a setting for how hard we want it to work.
Thank you for the info lorrad! I really thought I was losing my mind on that, it seemed like new routes were springing up even though I plotted from only 2 star systems away like some space based hall of mirrors.
As far as the discovery I made with the ELW and orbiting water world, I just found another system with the same thing not that far away. This time the star was already discovered but for some reason the person that found the star didn't bother scanning the money maker in that system.
Looks like I hit a dead end though crossing the Rift and trying to stay as close to the RR line as possible - no stars within 35LY to jump to from where I'm currently at. I have about 2000LY until I hit the massive star population on the other side of the Rift.
Today I have attempted to retrace Salome's route from Tionisla to Cemiess. Since Economical routing should be the same for everyone, this was what I used, since I have no idea what her ship's jump range was to check fastest route options. Furthermore, it is possible that she might use Economical routing if she was not in a hurry - and she did stop off somewhere to make her discovery, which people don't do if they are just jumping and scooping to reach their destination asap. Otherwise, it is very difficult to envisage Salome's mindset as to what she would explore and why.
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The detailed results:
system; landed/docked at; oddities/notes; local Galnet messages ('Herald') Tionisla: Brett High (Orbis); Brett High has Industrial economy, despite being the only large station of an Earth-like World (terraformed); Children of Raxxla messages (15+19 AUG)/ Buckyball Racing Club event Old Worlds Hustle (21 JUN) Crucis Sector JX-T b3-3; no stations or landables;; Crucis Sector JX-T b3-0; no stations or landables;; Qube; no stations or landables;; Crucis Sector FW-W c1-25; no stations or landables;; Nanditi; Hale Orbital (Coriolis);; none Nyanktona; Mackellar Dock (Ocellus);; none LTT 5373; no stations or landables;; Ansuz; Gantt Colony (Civilian Outpost); good prices for stocked superconductors/metals; none Tangkan; Alcala Retreat (Industrial Outpost);; none DON 680; Shukor Terminal (Industrial Outpost);; none Crucis Sector OI-T b3-2; no stations or landables;; Crucis Sector GH-M a7-0; no stations or landables;; Crucis Sector HH-M a7-0; landed 1a, no stations present ; all bodies landable; Crucis Sector IC-M a7-1; no stations or landables;; Crucis Sector JC-M a7-0; no stations or landables;; Yen Hsin; Haipeng Depot (Industrial Outpost); station orbits the star directly (star has no planets); none CD-82 331; Lee Dock (Coriolis); 'orange' station interior; none Tjalalang; Gotz Dock (Coriolis); station orbits the star directly (star has no planets); none Vadimo; Sikorsky Station (Coriolis); planet 2 is gas giant with ammonia-based life; none Shui Wei Sector GM-V c2-14;;;(forgot to note: probably nothing but the star, will check and edit when next in-game) Muspell; Nelson Landing (Industrial Outpost); planet 2 is gas giant with water-based life; none Shui Wei Sector MI-S b4-3; no stations or landables;; Sorbago; Hencke Orbital (Coriolis);; none Egovae; Endate Market (Orbis); Egovae 2(HMC) is being terraformed; none Firdaus; Robert Aitken Orbital (Coriolis); station in *very* low orbit of gas giant!; none Textovices; Bok Hub (Industrial Outpost);; none Condovichs; Walters Port (Coriolis); station orbits nothing? (system view shows it orbits star, which has asteroid belt only, no planets); none ICZ FW-V b2-7; no stations or landables;; Cemiess: Mackenzie Relay (Orbis); station announcer apologised for lockdown!; messages from Radio Sidewinder and Children of Raxxla about Salome (5 SEPT, 30 AUG, 24 AUG), one about Emperor's Dawn's links with Patreus' assassination attempt (22 AUG)
As you can see, there's not a lot to investigate on this route. Only one uninhabited system has landable planets (Crucis Sector HH-M a7-0, where everything is landable and icy). Except for terraformed planets, there are few life-bearing planets and all are gas giants. There are no local Galnet articles of note except at Tionisla and Cemiess. There are some stations in odd orbits (I wonder if the one in Condovichs might be orbiting a comet?) but these are hardly likely to be related to a mystery connecting the Rift to other regions of the galaxy.
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My guess is this is either just a storyline thread that we are meant to investigate after 2.2 when the pieces are in place, or else the pieces are already in place but there's still plenty of unexplored acres on the landables present in which to hide it and it needs silly resources of commander time and luck to find it - there's no knowing where Salome might have landed, or why (never mind how contrived it would be that she just stumbles on this stuff - maybe a tip-off mission, otherwise it would be astronomically unlikely to just land next to the 'it' that she found).
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Good luck to anyone else looking in this region!
Might be worth a search of that one system with landables if anyone has spare time. I suspect the Salome post implied there may be another alien wreck, & that would be the likeliest place.
Might be worth a search of that one system with landables if anyone has spare time. I suspect the Salome post implied there may be another alien wreck, & that would be the likeliest place.
If only we had planetary search limpets, which could map out areas of interest, complete with static filled images, as per normal when anything semi interesting is being shown...
Might be worth a search of that one system with landables if anyone has spare time. I suspect the Salome post implied there may be another alien wreck, & that would be the likeliest place.
Perhaps. In order to link the Rift mystery to other regions of the galaxy requires more than an alien wreck, however. There needs to be more specific intelligence - something like a log from a black box; a data point that can be scanned after a tip-off providing the information.
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I can understand Salome wanting to be vague when communicating openly - she does not want some people to discover what she has found and suppress the information. She depends upon the Children of Raxxla and other commanders to follow her footsteps and re-discover her findings based on those vague hints. The downside is that it is a huge task to find anything without being given specific locations to search - even if she had named a system, we could search for a month and not find anything. This is why I try to think about her mindset - to understand what might catch her attention and inspire her to explore in a particular area. I know that I'm just speculating, so I try to see what catches my eye also. The reason I landed on Crucis Sector HH-M a7-0 1a was because it was a distinctive red-coloured icy moon with Polonium and Selenium (I have almost exhausted my reserves of both) and I chose an area near some white canyons with a surface dusting of the white material. I did not see any blue circle POIs but I did find a guarded cache of cargo (Consumer Tech, Gold, Palladium, Synthetic Reagents) and I also checked out a signal source about a light second away from the moon from which I recovered an occupied escape pod. Unless Salome had a tip-off, I doubt she would land anywhere thinking 'this will be an alien ship linking the Rift to other parts of the galaxy'; she will be landing out of curiosity or a desire to collect useful materials. I do wonder if she has specialised equipment (currently unavailable to us) that allows her detect interesting POIs from orbit, or beyond, though - it seems like she found 'it' easily enough just going between two systems - yet it would take serious time and manpower to re-discover the same site, even if we knew which system - or even which planet - to search.
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I'm going to wait until 2.2 and see what the scanner upgrades are before I get involved with this again. (I've already got enough of the data one of the new Engineers who can modify scanners wants and I meet her other requirements). In the meantime, I'll try and improve my standing with the current Jaques CG before heading out to the Rift again. Good luck to everyone else in your own searches, wherever you may be looking!
If you are referring to the Thargoids as the object of our attempt to commit genocide then you are only part right. Aparently the colonists of Capital in the Achenar system succeeded in their genocide of an aparently primitive, yet sentient, species.
I'm going to wait until 2.2 and see what the scanner upgrades are before I get involved with this again. (I've already got enough of the data one of the new Engineers who can modify scanners wants and I meet her other requirements). In the meantime, I'll try and improve my standing with the current Jaques CG before heading out to the Rift again. Good luck to everyone else in your own searches, wherever you may be looking!
I think I can handle another week out there before 2.2 drops, depending on the temptations of next week's CGs, but I'm also intrigued by the modification potential of our scoops et cetera, so intend to be back for that!
Perhaps. In order to link the Rift mystery to other regions of the galaxy requires more than an alien wreck, however. There needs to be more specific intelligence - something like a log from a black box; a data point that can be scanned after a tip-off providing the information.
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I can understand Salome wanting to be vague when communicating openly - she does not want some people to discover what she has found and suppress the information. She depends upon the Children of Raxxla and other commanders to follow her footsteps and re-discover her findings based on those vague hints. The downside is that it is a huge task to find anything without being given specific locations to search - even if she had named a system, we could search for a month and not find anything. This is why I try to think about her mindset - to understand what might catch her attention and inspire her to explore in a particular area. I know that I'm just speculating, so I try to see what catches my eye also. The reason I landed on Crucis Sector HH-M a7-0 1a was because it was a distinctive red-coloured icy moon with Polonium and Selenium (I have almost exhausted my reserves of both) and I chose an area near some white canyons with a surface dusting of the white material. I did not see any blue circle POIs but I did find a guarded cache of cargo (Consumer Tech, Gold, Palladium, Synthetic Reagents) and I also checked out a signal source about a light second away from the moon from which I recovered an occupied escape pod. Unless Salome had a tip-off, I doubt she would land anywhere thinking 'this will be an alien ship linking the Rift to other parts of the galaxy'; she will be landing out of curiosity or a desire to collect useful materials. I do wonder if she has specialised equipment (currently unavailable to us) that allows her detect interesting POIs from orbit, or beyond, though - it seems like she found 'it' easily enough just going between two systems - yet it would take serious time and manpower to re-discover the same site, even if we knew which system - or even which planet - to search.
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I'm going to wait until 2.2 and see what the scanner upgrades are before I get involved with this again. (I've already got enough of the data one of the new Engineers who can modify scanners wants and I meet her other requirements). In the meantime, I'll try and improve my standing with the current Jaques CG before heading out to the Rift again. Good luck to everyone else in your own searches, wherever you may be looking!
Good points there. It triggers my memory- when Salome had her ship refitted didn't she get "a state of the art fuel scoop and a custom built Gutamaya discovery scanner"? So are we sure we're going to get scanner upgrades? Didn't go for the beta offer as I have enough problems playing catch up with the engineers as it is in my available play time, but I would like to know if this is a new upgrade in 2.2.
Good points there. It triggers my memory- when Salome had her ship refitted didn't she get "a state of the art fuel scoop and a custom built Gutamaya discovery scanner"? So are we sure we're going to get scanner upgrades? Didn't go for the beta offer as I have enough problems playing catch up with the engineers as it is in my available play time, but I would like to know if this is a new upgrade in 2.2.
I think that only cargo and kill warrant scanners are engineerable (<- is this a word?) in 2.2. The ADS and DSS don't have any properties that are directly scalable. The DSS could get the ability to find permanent POIs, but I don't think it's planned yet.
I think that only cargo and kill warrant scanners are engineerable (<- is this a word?) in 2.2. The ADS and DSS don't have any properties that are directly scalable. The DSS could get the ability to find permanent POIs, but I don't think it's planned yet.
Apparently there are place holder blueprints for AFMUs and Scoops [including 'lightweight'. ] as wel as 'defences' [perhaps including extended magazine sinks?], as well as sensors life support and canopies.
Essentially, I want to shave a few more grams off my Asp.
Unless something bad this way comes from the Rift, then they will just be little speed bumps.
Edit: Plus the whole trifecta working together to keep whatever is the mystery under wraps and a mystery, so there isn't going to be any support except from pirates or rogue groups then you'll get a little half working outpost held together by tape and the good will of pirates not blowing it up... or the trifecta themselves taking it out/sabotaging it/them.
unlike jaques, the rift is not really a known concern. It's a secret we've discovered and few others other than solome know much about. Stations would not make sense to be built out here with so few known interested parties concerned about the area.
Plus, if you believe some spoke of the dark wheel is behind keeping what's secret in the rift, a secret, then they would certainly block official stations from being built in the area.
I keep seeing that video where the guy with no teeth is talking in an interview in spanish(or Italian) and just non stop laughing. The subtitles along thelines of:
"..And there are hundreds of them out there! No idea what they hell they are looking for!!! BWAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHA!!!"
"...And the clues!!! We've been pulling random words out of a hat!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!"
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Im about 600LY directly under H&S now, and Heart is still not visible in the skybox. Pretty much going to keep on going at this level until I get as far as I can to the edge, then stick to the ~45LY line on my way back. Basically, looking towards the bubble for the whole trip back.
May as well leave the vanishing Heart thing in the "wait and see" box, until bug status in confirmed or denied.
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I've been able to see the H&S nebula from about 2500ly out Solward.
It seems to me we need to chart the nebula, or the area between - a lot of the hints seem to mention the location, and nebulas. These seem the best place to start?
- I admit of course, that I'm relatively new to the search, but this mystery has been the hook for me to keep playing and I definitely want to contribute
Identity of a bright cluster of 8 stars visible on the route to Eafots?
During my recent journey back from the Rift (I stopped off at the Heart Nebula and then set a direct course for the bubble), I noticed a group of eight extremely bright stars that were visible for well over a thousand light years to my starboard side (NGC 7822 was on my port side). They were well above the Galactic Plane, at least as high as NGC 7822, and as I passed NGC 7822 they were in almost the opposite direction: I tried to find them on the Galaxy Map but no luck (yet). I'm guessing that they are a non-procedural star cluster but I'm not sure what is in that region, whether I would have been able to reach them or (less likely) whether they might be something we have to watch out for related to the Rift mystery. For reference, my waypoint systems on the way back closest to this cluster were HEGUA BA-A G9, HEGEIA BN-R C18-6 and OUTORST TC-V D2-3 (I might also have just been able to see them from an earlier waypoint, GLUDGOEA TL-T C17-27). Has anyone identified them or been there? (I guess they are 4-5KLY from Sol; I think my distance from them as I passed by was no closer than 1KLY).
During my recent journey back from the Rift (I stopped off at the Heart Nebula and then set a direct course for the bubble), I noticed a group of eight extremely bright stars that were visible for well over a thousand light years to my starboard side (NGC 7822 was on my port side). They were well above the Galactic Plane, at least as high as NGC 7822, and as I passed NGC 7822 they were in almost the opposite direction: I tried to find them on the Galaxy Map but no luck (yet). I'm guessing that they are a non-procedural star cluster but I'm not sure what is in that region, whether I would have been able to reach them or (less likely) whether they might be something we have to watch out for related to the Rift mystery. For reference, my waypoint systems on the way back closest to this cluster were HEGUA BA-A G9, HEGEIA BN-R C18-6 and OUTORST TC-V D2-3 (I might also have just been able to see them from an earlier waypoint, GLUDGOEA TL-T C17-27). Has anyone identified them or been there? (I guess they are 4-5KLY from Sol; I think my distance from them as I passed by was no closer than 1KLY).
] as wel as 'defences' [perhaps including extended magazine sinks?], as well as sensors life support and canopies.
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