Special Treatment & Favouritism?
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I couldn't agree more with you, Zac. Tbh, I am quite disappointed when I read complaints like those in the OP. Giving a decal to participants of some specific activity in no way puts the recipients in a better position - I know the OP didn't claim this, but I think it's worth emphasizing anyway. Those decals are merely a cosmetic, very nice little way to acknowledge the efforts some people have put into the game, often without even knowing beforehand that they might receive a decal for it! And that's the most important point, IMO: participants of Distant Worlds weren't told beforehand they'd receive a decal for it, they participated to be part of the endeavour, not receive some decal. The same is true for the fuel rats: they helped people because they genuinely wanted to, not to just get some decals as a reward.
Being jealous of these little signs of acknowledgement for the effort of some groups to create emergent gameplay doesn't put a good light on those who complain about it, IMHO. Instead of crying about "favouritism", people should start their own in-game activities they really want to do and don't just focus on getting some rewards. If groups succeed in engaging many players with interesting new ways of emergent gameplay, who knows? Perhaps FD will give them a decal as well. But starting those activities with the sole purpose being to receive a decal misses the point FD tried to make with this, I think.
I am especially happy about those decals not being promised to all groups that accomplish some certain goal that is known beforehand, so that people don't become single-mindedly focused on just receiving in-game rewards, without being interested in the ways those are acquired to begin with.
In conclusion: I am very happy with the way FD handles this specific part of the game. Good work guys!
There's your damn favouritism right there!
I would send you one as well but you have'nt ernt it yet.... you'll get no favouritism from me. I have already treated myself and am completly free of tall poppy syndrome.
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It just unavoidable slips into a negativ thing for some people when all FD is doing are exclusive this and exclusiv that decals. I really do think FD made those exclusive decals is good, but when for well more then a Year one hears over and over again "Hey, we made new decals, but you can't have it!" then that can be seen as negativ at one point. We all have our limits as far as positivity goes ^^
I really just like to point out once again making exclusive decals isn't a problem, only making exclusiv decals is one. Can you please whoever at FD is doing those ask nicley to think about the peasants once in a while?
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one and its worth pointing out here that I'm not, nor have ever tried, to make this personal - unlike the many reponses I have recieved for simply stating an opinion. So no one at Frontier should have hurt feelings. Yes, its a criticism but its also a concern I have. I'm sorry to say though Zac that like it or not Frontier (imo) has shown signs of favouritism over the years, whether it be the slanted choice in moderators, and how thats been used to oppress and stifle the debate, alienating many, or how you deem certain actions in game more valuable than others. Its something I've never seen before and struggled to understand re a computer game. Its not just me who has this impression either. The forums here are often refered to as an echo chamber, sorry for spoiling the status quo.
You site examples of the Fuel Rats and DW but thats a subjective choice as to what has merit in the game, in celebrating them you are making it clear what is deemed acceptable or how you want people to play because of the absence of recognition of others. By all accounts they have made a significant visible contribution but as I said I still think the material rewards and promotions (hey you have them on the front page of the elite dangerous site) is far from being unquestionable.
I see nothing wrong with promoting groups in community spotlights etc, but when you are offering people material rewards in game because you (Frontier) approve of how they play, on some arbitary basis, that crosses the line (imo) because its sending a wider signal about what you approve of. and how we should be playing the game where we are supposed to have infinite freedom. As well intentinoned as this may well be it is, in my opinion, its not really satisfactory either.
As for being negative, I'm simply stating my opinion, I have never particuarly enjoyed calling Frontier out on certain things either, but what are you suggesting, I should shut up? Fine. It seems only certain people and groups around here can make a complaint, air a concern..
Close the thread, I'm done with this topic.
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Yes please
Classy.
By the way, I have like a million tons mined .. where's my "miners do it with limpets" decal??
Probably with my 'Explorers do it in the Asp' one.
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I think you know that Zac doesn't think like that. Some other people may do, but you aren't going to please everyone, certainly not on a forum
It just unavoidable slips into a negativ thing for some people when all FD is doing are exclusive this and exclusiv that decals. I really do think FD made those exclusive decals is good, but when for well more then a Year one hears over and over again "Hey, we made new decals, but you can't have it!" then that can be seen as negativ at one point. We all have our limits as far as positivity goes ^^
I really just like to point out once again making exclusive decals isn't a problem, only making exclusiv decals is one. Can you please whoever at FD is doing those ask nicley to think about the peasants once in a while?
Agree, it would be nice if the rest of us didn't have to feel like second class pilots.
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Where's Isinona's decal?
It's fuel rats all over...
It's called "event rewards". They're common in gaming from all walks of life, and remember it back to my early gaming days in EQ, where dedicated teams would create events for Halloween etc. that gave rewards you could not get again. They even influenced game play, and we're talking about stickers in ED. In fact EQ even had an item tag called "artifact", which meant at the time there was only one of that item on the server.
Just the one. One person had that weapon.
And you're complaining about stickers.
Event rewards aren't new, and apparently a dev company can't try and shake things up without being accused of this that and the other.
It's called "event rewards". They're common in gaming from all walks of life, and remember it back to my early gaming days in EQ, where dedicated teams would create events for Halloween etc. that gave rewards you could not get again. They even influenced game play, and we're talking about stickers in ED. In fact EQ even had an item tag called "artifact", which meant at the time there was only one of that item on the server.
Just the one. One person had that weapon.
And you're complaining about stickers.
Event rewards aren't new, and apparently a dev company can't try and shake things up without being accused of this that and the other.
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Very nicely put and thanks for taking the time to do so.
As for my comments about Canonn, it was just because as I said they had a decal designed long before anyone else, had been asking about it on occasion long ago, and have contributed to so much gameplay (not just with the UA, UP, Barnacle, Alien Ruins), always overlooked as a bunch of crazies though (probably fairly
With the possible exception of being the group that discovers the thing that leads to us welcoming in our new alien overlords who enslave humanity... and let's face it no-ones going to give us a decal for that
*Edit* Though Patau has found some nice cats
If the cats don't do the trick nothing will
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