Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Mengy]

Oh, that may be it! Maybe 3 rows correspond to X, Y and Z coordinates?

That’s what I’ve been thinking, the three lines of gobbly gook at the bottom corner of the nonogram are X Y Z coordinates for where the system in the map can be found. Problem is I can’t figure out HOW to get coordinates that make sense out of it. I tried turning it into morse code but I can’t make anything legible out of all the variations.

That bottom corner is something we really need to solve, somehow.

 

[HagbardCeline]

I'm around Polaris so not at archeological site si I need a favor.

Could someone take pictures of the sky box ? I can't stop thinking about the "star map" aspect of the site and would like to investigate it.

If you look at ancien star maps , they share too many similarities for it to be a coincidence...

This...

The way the "beacons" are placed. Reminds me of one of the "88 - Star constellation", only mirrored. Here...
Try to lay it over the map flipped but didn't quite match....

Only trying to help. Definitely something going on here.

 

[slashgoh]

It could just be something simple like shorthand for 'clue found on 4C'.

yes, of course, but I'm triing to search for a key help us solving the low part of nonogram.
Why they give us a so clear reference to a moon position inside a star system, when the star system itself is so hard to identify?
It seems unbalanced... I don't know if I'm clear

 

[deleteduser]

I'm not sure the 6 and 4 rows of the bottom nonogram can be resolved using <<

The three asteroid configs combined give 7,389 valid solutions, breaking down into:

<> = 2,268
>< = 2,268
<< = 2,853

The interpretation we have looks great but can anyone demonstrate that it is actually based on pure logic rather than intuition?

Nope.

Only what has been gleaned from trial & error.

 

[slashgoh]

The three asteroid configs combined give 7,389 valid solutions, breaking down into:

<> = 2,268
>< = 2,268
<< = 2,853


Nope.

We're either missing a clue, or we're mis-using the data what we've got. I'm going for the latter, just no idea how to resolve that.

solutions with >< and <> are the same.
They change in the way asteroid is drawn but for the lower part purpose are the same

 

[Mengy]

It's not.

Michael

Yeah, like Michael said, the nonogram can’t point to the discovered ruins because the sytem map doesn’t match. It has to be something new waiting for us in this new system, presumably at 4C if the other clues are correct. Now we just need to figure out WHERE this system is located, somehow.

It does beg the question though: how were we SUPPOSED to find the alien ruins? Surely the trailer movie wasn’t the “proper” way to find them, Frontier would have put other clues and hints into the game to lead us to the ruins. And if this nonogram system isn’t the path to properly find the ruins, then what was that path? Did we miss it entirely? Are we going grocery shopping before we get our shopping list together?

 

[jwirpl]

7,389 valid solutions, breaking down into:

<> = 2,268
>< = 2,268
<< = 2,853

A bit pedantic of me, but <> and >< cases produce the same solutions, so "only" 5121 solution in total.

 

[Crash1099]

Don't know if it is anything. But Hip 19688 has a lot of poi and system defense forces at Planet Hip 19688 ABC 4B

 

[Ben_BigBen]

I just assumed that was to differentiate from the rest of the message which was relating to timings and locations of transmissions.

But someone mentioned earlier that it could have a hidden meaning too - bit like a crossword "Don't forget the full message was "clue 4 CHARLIE" could be a key to a cipher also are we sure that 4 doesn't represent D and become "Clue D Charlie" I know it makes less sense than 4C denoting a planet, but sometimes it's worth checking assumptions

 

[djadjok]

That "clue 4c" should means an help for decoding the nonogram; if they would indicate a moon, they would put something like "place 4c" or land 4c". Why using the specific word clue?

4c can also mean just "L" (star class?). However 4c moon is also present.

 

[MuteJazz]

I have this silly idea in my head that the comments made by Drew and perhaps some other sources suggesting we would "need a Sol permit soon" means something.

In 2.2 they have added a hold load of land-able dwarf planets in the sol system. I was out there last night looking around.

If anyone's looking for something to do I could use a hand scouting them out. I have no firm reason for this at all so it's probably just a case of ruling it out but my thinking is as follows.....

(Presumption) Guardians are a "3rd" race. Mars (sol system) was the location of an object found in history that gave us faster than light travel tech......was this Guardian tech?
....Did this 3rd race set foot elsewhere in the Sol system?
....Are the newly added land-able bodies in Sol hiding something? Is that was was meant by "make sure you have a sol permit" or whatever was said.

If you look up some of the dwarf planets names that are included there various mythological connotations....oh and did I mention one of them has a moon....... as in like the trailer......

Thats where I will be this evening (unless an actual clue turns up)......anyone else up for a wild goose chase please feel free to head out there later so I can get this silly idea out of my head.

Are you saying we should be doing a little... Sol searching?

 

[John Rhys]

Completely wild thought, that is probably utter ********:

After Converting the binary (all of them!) from the first two "dots" in the Nonogram into numbers, and putting them on the galactic map, i'll get the Sagittarius gap. Coincidentally, those coordinates (no idea where to put the comma) fall into the 4th gap AND the 4th naming with "C" (starting from the top) = constellation of Carina. Also the coordinates are very, very near the Centaurus reach...which are also four "C"...

Edit:
Probably just coincidence, but putting a "-" in front of the coordinates put's it right in the middle of the Formidine Rift...:O[woah]

Edit 2:
Which is also again in the Cephus Arm...damn, I think, i'm seeing things -.-

 

[slashgoh]

4c can also mean just "L" (star class?). However 4c moon is also present.

or Clue 4c is the third moon of the fourth planet of system whos star name is clue

 

[deleteduser]

The first set of nonogram co-ordinates (0,0) seem to serve no purpose other than as a border, so they may centre whatever results we do get on the Sol-centric co-ordinate system.

Bottom left data from binary to decimal as Co-ords gives, 63, 15, 511

Edit: Nothing at 63, 15, 511 or any combination of the +ve & -ve values.

 

[slashgoh]

Completely wild thought, that is probably utter ********:

After Converting the binary (all of them!) from the first two "dots" in the Nonogram into numbers, and putting them on the galactic map, i'll get the Sagittarius gap. Coincidentally, those coordinates (no idea where to put the comma) fall into the 4th gap AND the 4th naming with "C" (starting from the top) = constellation of Carina. Also the coordinates are very, very near the Centaurus reach...which are also four "C"...

Edit:
Probably just coincidence, but putting a "-" in front of the coordinates put's it right in the middle of the Formidine Rift...:O[woah]

Edit 2:
Which is also again in the Cephus Arm...damn, I think, i'm seeing things -.-

can u explain how yo get coordinates?

 

[floc]

[TinFoilHat]
The beacon clues were left to help us find the site, however the site was found by 'other means' (Video) + Triangulation. - Do any of the clues remotely point to the site? i.e are we going backwards?

If above is the case then.

FD mentioned that finding things would 'trigger' other events - Such as activating the site beacons would trigger the next event. - We have triggered a countdown/up for an encounter event. If the site owners have been notified that we are snooping around, surely they will send something to checkout who's there?
[/TinFoilHat]

The first set of nonogram co-ordinates (0,0) seem to serve no purpose other than as a border, so they may centre whatever results we do get on the Sol-centric co-ordinate system.

sol-centric coord system given by aliens? naaah

last time the clues was from merope, this time are from ruins imho

 

[Dreelan]

Been reading with interest, a bit of spare time so I am having a bash using this little gem :http://jsimlo.sk/griddlers/

The front page nonogram the numbers i think are not not entered correctly the vertical in particular,

Keep on bashing the grey material guys and gals...
The ruins seem to me a cemetery or crematorium, for the Dead...

 

[deleteduser]

sol-centric coord system given by aliens? naaah

last time the clues was from merope, this time are from ruins imho

Depends on which aliens... and this may not be alien related at all...

Been reading with interest, a bit of spare time so I am having a bash using this little gem :http://jsimlo.sk/griddlers/

The front page nonogram the numbers i think are not not entered correctly the vertical in particular,

Keep on bashing the grey material guys and gals...
The ruins seem to me a cemetery or crematorium, for the Dead...

Nonogram numbers on the front page are out of date. New ones can be found here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ies-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=4713664#post4713664

 

[iamgingerbear]

Completely wild thought, that is probably utter ********:

After Converting the binary (all of them!) from the first two "dots" in the Nonogram into numbers, and putting them on the galactic map, i'll get the Sagittarius gap. Coincidentally, those coordinates (no idea where to put the comma) fall into the 4th gap AND the 4th naming with "C" (starting from the top) = constellation of Carina. Also the coordinates are very, very near the Centaurus reach...which are also four "C"...

Edit:
Probably just coincidence, but putting a "-" in front of the coordinates put's it right in the middle of the Formidine Rift...:O[woah]

Edit 2:
Which is also again in the Cephus Arm...damn, I think, i'm seeing things -.-

I seem to remember someone saying about the formadine rift and the the rifters might want a sol permit soon so this could be the right ballpark.

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Yeah, like Michael said, the nonogram can’t point to the discovered ruins because the sytem map doesn’t match. It has to be something new waiting for us in this new system, presumably at 4C if the other clues are correct. Now we just need to figure out WHERE this system is located, somehow.

It does beg the question though: how were we SUPPOSED to find the alien ruins? Surely the trailer movie wasn’t the “proper” way to find them, Frontier would have put other clues and hints into the game to lead us to the ruins. And if this nonogram system isn’t the path to properly find the ruins, then what was that path? Did we miss it entirely? Are we going grocery shopping before we get our shopping list together?

Well the first clue is that it's not tied to a Nebula by being directly in one. The other clue is tied to the Rift.