The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Its interesting to watch a lot of the newer backers starting to turn sour on this new sale, if this continues there is no way out of the pyramid outside refunds(which have a limit for obvious reasons), grey market ebay will end up selling at a loss. Its so obvious they are desperate for cash, all that money wasted on mo-crap and hollywood stars, I have a feeling they will be making a movie about all this someday.

There's inevitably a point where the off message people - who can clearly see the emperor has no clothes - easily outnumber the faithful and shout them down.

Perhaps they're there already.
 
That mocap data looks pretty raw, like straight out of the capture plugin. The loop points are clearly visible as there doesn't seem to be any interpolation between the end of one loop and the start of the next.

BTW CE has tools for mocap cleanup.

Oh dear just that first paragraph induces a sinking feeling...[uhh]

Though mocap cleanup may at first seem to be a relatively easy task, if the wrong approach is applied, estimated times to clean up rise beyond practical limits and the end results look poor. The most important first step is to make sure the approach is correct from the beginning.
 
The sandworm has turned.

Yeah, I'd make a guess that unless these next two updates are both good and timely that they're going to find the pressure being ramped up.

Edit: Roberts made a comment a while ago to the tune of 'being worried they'll lose the support of the backers'. That was subtle, but perhaps telling. Didn't strike me as a man who was confident in the development of his game.

Edit 2: Reddit interest has dropped to historically low levels

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In these backing/shipsale/financial kinds of discussions people keep referencing the "money counter" on the website.
Has the validity/accuracy of this thing ever been verified? Does grey-market activity line up with sale peaks?
Kinda curious because it seems to be the basis of a lot of arguments for both "camps"... :|

Edit: @Barking_Mad I wouldn't read too much into the reddit activity tbh, numbers seem to average out at around 140k pageviews a day for the last few months and there's no real decline, just a peak around citizencon painting the rest in a bit of a worse light. I wonder how many of these pageviews are in fact from the infamous "downvote-bots" that tend to take the blame for mass-downvoting critically-toned posts ;)
 
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In these backing/shipsale/financial kinds of discussions people keep referencing the "money counter" on the website.
Has the validity/accuracy of this thing ever been verified? Does grey-market activity line up with sale peaks?
Kinda curious because it seems to be the basis of a lot of arguments for both "camps"... :|

Edit: @Barking_Mad I wouldn't read too much into the reddit activity tbh, numbers seem to average out at around 140k pageviews a day for the last few months and there's no real decline, just a peak around citizencon painting the rest in a bit of a worse light. I wonder how many of these pageviews are in fact from the infamous "downvote-bots" that tend to take the blame for mass-downvoting critically-toned posts ;)

Tone on SC subreddit has changed though. Comparing what hype it had during Gamescom ohh boy.
 
R usually means "Revision|Revised"
Hm. For once you've seeded doubt in my mind. It's been long enough since I read that doc that I'm not totally sure it wasn't that. I'm going to check on Monday, if so, I've still no idea where the mind virus started.
In thanks, a hint in return: You may have picked up a habit of using the word "kernel" in inappropriate cases, in a similar mind-virusy way.
 
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Hm. For once you've seeded doubt in my mind. It's been long enough since I read that doc that I'm not totally sure it wasn't that. I'm going to check on Monday, if so, I've still no idea where the mind virus started.
In thanks, a hint in return: You may have picked up a habit of using the word "kernel" in inappropriate cases, in a similar mind-virusy way.

Probably something procedural.

People love buzzwords, especially less technical managers who are a bit fuzzy on what the difference is anyway. Goes the other way though too and terms sometimes split as a sub-set becomes as important as the whole once was and that can get anyone who's not kept up to date. Either becomes a habit that's hard to break
 
Hm. For once you've seeded doubt in my mind. It's been long enough since I read that doc that I'm not totally sure it wasn't that. I'm going to check on Monday, if so, I've still no idea where the mind virus started.
In thanks, a hint in return: You may have picked up a habit of using the word "kernel" in inappropriate cases, in a similar mind-virusy way.

Kernel is an easy one - it's from Tron. :D
 

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Hm. For once you've seeded doubt in my mind. It's been long enough since I read that doc that I'm not totally sure it wasn't that. I'm going to check on Monday, if so, I've still no idea where the mind virus started.
In thanks, a hint in return: You may have picked up a habit of using the word "kernel" in inappropriate cases, in a similar mind-virusy way.

Yeah, I know. It's like the plague now :D :D

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Are you thinking of asking for a refund? Well be prepared to sit through the CitizenCon presentation. I kid you not. But this backer's response is priceless.

Also, I wrote a new article today, but I'm scared to link (check my Twitter feed) to it because it contains a meme that has a swear word in it. Is something like that against the rules if it's only a link to an article?

Some hilarity. http://i.imgur.com/yh09HfS.gifv
 
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Yeah, I know. It's like the plague now :D :D

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Are you thinking of asking for a refund? Well be prepared to sit through the CitizenCon presentation. I kid you not. But this backer's response is priceless.

Also, I wrote a new article today, but I'm scared to link (check my Twitter feed) to it because it contains a meme that has a swear word in it. Is something like that against the rules if it's only a link to an article?

Some hilarity. http://i.imgur.com/yh09HfS.gifv

I take a couple of days off the interweb and miss all the best stuff :(

I hope the latest new money only cash grab is just a case of "We're running a bit low on funds"

And not:
"That's it - lets fill the suitcases with cash - C'mon Sandi, we're off to Rio - they'll never find us there..."

:D
 
I know that the writer for Tron didn't actually know that TRON was a real thing, but after he learned that, was there ever any plans to introduce an enemy called TROFF?
 
I know that the writer for Tron didn't actually know that TRON was a real thing, but after he learned that, was there ever any plans to introduce an enemy called TROFF?

Wasn't that a trace command for debugging some versions of Basic? I remember it on the Dragon 32 which was essentially a TRS-80 clone dont-ya-know?

I always thought MCP was a reference to CPM, but it wasn't
 
Wasn't that a trace command for debugging some versions of Basic? I remember it on the Dragon 32 which was essentially a TRS-80 clone dont-ya-know?

I always thought MCP was a reference to CPM, but it wasn't

Yes. It stood for “trace on” (and trace off, naturally). Depending on the flavour of Basic, it would output anything from a simple print-out of the current line number being executed, to the actual command (once they did away with line numbers).

It was pure lucky coincidence that the Tron character (which, if I remember correctly, was more a case of 'tron, as in electron) was also a type of debug/trace program.
 
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Urgh.

Last time I had a Kernel Fried Chipset bargain bucket - it refactored itself into a cheerful little blocker. Completely refused all attempts at flushing the cache. It even laughed at the Dalek Weaponry.

I wonder if CIG have mocapped that particular bathroom emergency :D

:D

Which for some inexplicable reason puts me in mind of Float on by The Floaters!

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I know that the writer for Tron didn't actually know that TRON was a real thing, but after he learned that, was there ever any plans to introduce an enemy called TROFF?

Yes. It stood for “trace on” (and trace off, naturally). Depending on the flavour of Basic, it would output anything from a simple print-out of the current line number being executed, to the actual command (once they did away with line numbers).

It was pure lucky coincidence that the Tron character (which, if I remember correctly, was more a case of 'tron, as in electron) was also a type of debug/trace program.

Good job I didn't comment - I thought you were going with a desperately awful pun that even I wouldn't attempt!

:O
 
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