Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Ah damn, thought I was on to something there haha.. Cheers for the reply.
if anything, Sag A should be one of the reference points
additionally, we have no idea how old these ruins are, its entirely possible that the map is totally outdated. because star systems do move, they orbit Sag A
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I was at the Alien site yesterday evening and this morning. There were 0 other CMDRs. Is that normal?
Agree.
As for me if it is a 2d stellar map and there is some info about Synuefe xr-h d11-102 then here can be some info about planet Planet 1 B or about all main planets in system. If we find this info then future searches will be easier.
The only mystery element so far that has required anything except the game, pen and paper is the UP sonogram.
The ruin was found by use of the trailer, but that was not the only way to find it.
The fact that people use the best external tools for solving the puzzles quicker, only shows that it would be impossible for FD to add in-game tools that would satisfy everyone.
I agree with Han_Zen.
However there is no harm at all, and it is even funny, for CMDRs to check the locations Mengy suggested. Even just to thank him for the huge effort!
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And agree again.
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Well done theory Mengy, right or wrong (but i beleive its right), that stay a very nice piece of thinking !
I will proudly participate to the exploration, maybe tonight, afterwotk, if not finded until
The hunt is started, the dogs are free, Flight, flight Canonn CMDRs, and bring us back thoose ancient bases !
Definitly, that game and that thread (why only naut, and not urnaut ?) give me my necessary daily dose of SF
Well done theory Mengy, right or wrong (but i beleive its right), that stay a very nice piece of thinking !
I will proudly participate to the exploration, maybe tonight, afterwotk, if not finded until
The hunt is started, the dogs are free, Flight, flight Canonn CMDRs, and bring us back thoose ancient bases !
Definitly, that game and that thread (why only naut, and not urnaut ?) give me my necessary daily dose of SF
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Why taking SOL as reference point? What if the triangle on top of the big circle means that there is a system on top of the system that the circle refers to? Like 368.44ly upwards on the galactic plane from Synuefe XR-H. Given that the measurement with an SRV is not the most exact method (no offense ) but there is a system directly upwards from Synuefe XR-H with 368.32ly distance, and also slighty to the right, just like the pyramid that Mengy named SOL. A B-Type (Blue White) star, HR 4123.
And much rep for you Mengy, awesome work
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) but there is a system directly upwards from Synuefe XR-H with 368.32ly distance, and also slighty to the right, just like the pyramid that Mengy named SOL. A B-Type (Blue White) star, HR 4123.And much rep for you Mengy, awesome work
Glastinghouse
I agree with Han_Zen.
However there is no harm at all, and it is even funny, for CMDRs to check the locations Mengy suggested. Even just to thank him for the huge effort!
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And agree again.
What would be funnier is if we actually found something there, only to be told bt MB that the ruins were never meant to be a map...
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Given that the measurement with an SRV is not the most exact method (no offense
I guess he left his ship exactly at 'Sol' and then drove the SRV to the POIs - in that way you can exactly measure the distance.
He left the ship at the circle (Synuefe) and drove to the POI. What I mean is: it would be much more accurate if you use a measuring tape. But that is no problem since, to me, it opens up the possibility that not the measured distance is the exact one but one that is minimally different from it.
From the looks of things, we will need atleast 15 cmdrs in the same instance to make that work, and it would be nice to have a few on the outside documenting things as well. So, we're looking at perhaps 20 to make it viable.
If we at the same time could light up all the obelisk formations, that would be a bonus, but then we're talking 30+ cmdrs and I am afraid that might break ED in its current iteration
Completely up for this - the one thing I want to see is what happens if all the servers/obelisks are lit up at the same time with a CMDR at each section, in addition to placing objects. Probably nothing, but it's a bit of science. PM me if you need a hand and want volunteers.
Well done, Mengy. Like others I have reservations, but it's fitting so let's see what happens.
I like the fact you tie in the northern pyramid to Sol, which means there's an ancient earth link if anything is found to the Egyptians (and gives us plenty of opportunity for some... Wait for it... ANCIENT ALIENS!), which we all know had the help of extra terrestrials to build the pyramids
Got nothing else to do ATM so might head over to those planets and have a gander. Repped, regardless, that's some impressive work full stop. For science!I agree with Han_Zen.
However there is no harm at all, and it is even funny, for CMDRs to check the locations Mengy suggested. Even just to thank him for the huge effort!
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And agree again.
The reason I'm skeptical to a 2D map is that it's not very useful.
For a 2D map to work, you need three known locations to get distances(scale) and a plane. Basically form a known triangle in space. When you have this, you can mark any other location in that plane on the map. The problem is that the system you want to map is rarely in the predefined plane. If it's not in the plane, you have to make a height offset (like the scanner in our ships does).
As far as I see it, the ruins don't have three fixed points and measuring the relative height of the platforms and pyramid tips is difficult.
Still, it's way better to search somewhere than nowhere and I don't think we have anything better at the moment.
Picture for explanation - if you move/rotate the cutting plane, assuming it's clipped at O (Sol) then points A and B will be different at every single iteration.
Still, huge +rep to Mengy for research effort!
WOW! Worth the wait.
I too am skeptical but I really hope to be proven wrong and that it pans out.
My skepticism comes from the assumptions made. The first is that the prominent circle is the system containing the ruins - this may just as well be somewhere else (e.g. the home system of whomever created the ruins). The second is that a pyramid represents Sol - this is based on the first assumption and a measurement in metres. This could make sense if this was a human site created after the adoption of the metre (or some shoddy FDev storytelling
) but then you'd think Sol would have more prominence.My guess is you're almost correct (and by making similar assumptions), that the large "landing platform" is Sol, the pyramids are the site of outposts (the ruins) and the smaller circle is our target - a second ancient human colony - the resting place of The Missing (wild speculation klaxon). It makes more sense in a symbolic way. @Mengy - is there any chance you could use your elite CAD skills to find some candidate systems based on this? (if it makes sense to you)
Anyway, best hypothesis so far - fingers crossed!
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Either it's a hell of a coincidence, or you are onto something. Still, I'm a bit on the fence about the whole map thing.
I guess I'll spend some time this evening looking at the steps in details, but in any case, kudos for the work.
I really hope you cracked part of it
Some remarks about the ruins :
1) To me they do look like a forked off human culture in isolation for centuries could build. The missing ?
2) It's not too far off from sol to be the missing.
3) When flying over / driving in the ruins I get a tomb/memorial vibe.
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