The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Well, that was the claim at about 18:55 on that vid... I don't believe that is an announcement by the game producers ;)

Ah, from the crazy person. Yeah, that's not nearly as fun. It would have pushed the SC “alpha” past the Gemeni program in my moon landing comparison. :D
 
No flamethrowers in space?

I has a sad.

I bet they are still waiting on Genuine Roberts to invent the rocket engine :D

No Magboots in space.

I has a sad.

I bet they are still waiting on Genuine Roberts to invent electricity and magnetism.
 
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Reminds me of a line from Babylon 5:

"Watch out for shadows. They move when you're not looking at them."

(On the right, when he's walking in a crouch)
Oooh that's weird good spot.

They seem to still have HUGE problems with shadows. Isn't that a render engine bug? Ben? :D << I know this is unfair, but lolz
 
Sigh. And here we go again.
Can you guys actually contribute anything worth reading ? Or is stupid comments to vent your hatred for Star Citizen the full extend of what your capable off ? :)

How much are you in for?

There has been zero hatred for the CE tech demo, just the obvious facts available. It requires blinders, perhaps even delusions, to not see SC for what it is.
 
Sigh. And here we go again.
Can you guys actually contribute anything worth reading ? Or is stupid comments to vent your hatred for Star Citizen the full extend of what your capable off ? :)

I don't think anyone here hates SC, after all many here backed it. The problem is it's sometimes hard to take CR seriously. He says that "When building a house, or a castle you first have to build the foundations then the walls and build from there".

Which is not what they are doing. The foundation of a game like this is the missions, gameplay and more importantly the economy. After all, making money is going to be the foundation of this game - most players will start with a standard package and need to upgrade. Yet we know nothing about how this is going to work - it's not something you can just 'tack on at the end' - it HAS to work or the game fails.

Right now I will agree that Star Citizen is doing something never ever done by any other game. They are managing to put up wallpaper and decorate rooms before they have even built the walls.

And there are no foundations, The wallpaper, decorations and fishtank are being built on a swamp.

But I have to admit - they have excellent choice in wallpaper - it looks awesome.
 
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Lord of War was a pretty ok movie.
Chris had very little to do with it — he just bought a fifth-page credit and (maybe) got a modest cash ROI. The movie he most actively was involved with and like to take the most credit for is Outlander — 6.3 stars and a $40M loss. ;)

Well, setting aside the Wing Commander movie, of course, that demonstrated a complete lack of production savvy, management skills, directorial talent, or knowledge or understanding of the Wing Commander IP. [haha]


No mentioning the WC movie! (And yes, no understanding of "his own" work)
 
Sigh. And here we go again.
Can you guys actually contribute anything worth reading ? Or is stupid comments to vent your hatred for Star Citizen the full extend of what your capable off ? :)

I don't think anyone here hates SC, after all many here backed it. The problem is it's sometimes hard to take CR seriously. He says that "When building a house, or a castle you first have to build the foundations then the walls and build from there".
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Basically, What Marak said: Don't mistake frustration for hatred. 5 years in and CIG are wrestling with questions like "Do planets rotate?" and "Inertia: Is it a thing?". You don't see Elliptic Games or I-Novae struggling with this.

But we can buy space trousers. [ugh]
 
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Yes. Pretend.

One week after its being showed, it has silently been adjusted one week into the future. If they can't estimate time that close, then they're just pretending and the whole thing just demonstrates their inherent untrustworthiness and incompetence as far as any kind of scheduling goes — doubly so when they just flat-out replace the old version with a new one as if to pretend that this was what was said all along.

Funnily enough, doing it properly is not rocket science, and they should have 5+ years worth of adjustment data by now. Instead, they pretend, to fool people like you.
 

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Yes. Pretend.

One week after its being showed, it has silently been adjusted one week into the future. If they can't estimate time that close, then they're just pretending and the whole thing just demonstrates their inherent untrustworthiness and incompetence as far as any kind of scheduling goes — doubly so when they just flat-out replace the old version with a new one as if to pretend that this was what was said all along.

Funnily enough, doing it properly is not rocket science, and they should have 5+ years worth of adjustment data by now. Instead, they pretend, to fool people like you.

I wrote about specifically that in my Shattered Dreams blog. They did it to placate backers, and get them to keep giving them money. It's lies. All of it.
 
Pretend? Planning is estimates that ofc change! Show me a game in development and I'll show you missed dates, you don't need to go too far, just look at Elite Development.

Or just glare dumbfoundedly at all of Chris Roberts' missed dates. All of them. He hasn't hit a date since Freelancer. That is the most telling evidence of incompetence, and yet you somehow still have "faith."
 
Basically, What Marak said: Don't mistake frustration for hatred. 5 years in and CIG are wrestling with questions like "Do planets rotate?" and "Inertia: Is it a thing?". You don't see Elliptic Games or I-Novae struggling with this.

But we can buy space trousers. [ugh]

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No Mate. Sorry but I have serious Doubts that most of the People which keep Filling my Ignore List. Are Backers of this Game.
And if they are they should demand a Refund and get Lost. Cause the only thing I see from them is Negativity.

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Well you can Laugh at it by Phrasing it like that.
But the Question if an Object in your Game World which People Fly around and can Land and Walk upon. Should Rotate or be Static. IS an very Importand Point to your Game. Because having Players move Independently on an already moving Object on top on an Online Server over Internet Connection. Is an very hefty Issue.
Most of the current Engines have alot of Trouble with Placing Moving Objects upon other Moving Objects.
Its alot of Work to do this stuff. And while for an Spacecraft in Full Flight you can Forgive some Rumbling cause you can say. its a Craft moving at high Speed.
But for a Planet if you slide around or rumble about this would be an fat downturn.

Most Games up to this Day. Use a Transition which makes a Player entering a Vehicle. A Part of this Vehicle whose actual Position does not move except for some Preset Positions on this Craft.


The Games you Refer to might not think about this.
But given the Videos I see from them. They are setting a far lower Standard to begin with. Rodina in its General Idea doesnt seem to care much about Realism or Physics. Its an Rough Simulation to make things work. Albeit they look pretty Absurd.
Infinity Battlescape Pays way more Attention here. But is also using highly Simplified stuff here.

I cannot tell from the Video if they are using a Static System or went ahead using an Dynamic System. But its Fairly Obvious that their Alphas are way behind what Star Citizen Delivered so Far.



So. Sorry. But Seriously.
You guys aint Discussing anything here Really.
You guys are Trashtalking Star Citizen cracking half true Jokes and Provocations about its Founder.

If you dont like the Game dont bother with it.
Why do you spend so much time in this Topic downtalking a Game ?

There is only 2 possible answers. And one is more sad than the other.

1. Being that you simply got nothing better to do with your Life.
2. Being that you Hate this Game and for whatever reason want to hurt it somehow.



Imagine People would sit here. Making these Posts that you call an Discussion. About YOU.
I bet if I were to Talk like this and call it an Discussion of you guys. I would be Banned within a matter of Minutes.

What you guys doing aint an Discussion. And this aint Frustration either. Its Hatred. A Deep one on that.
Maybe that was born out of Frustration about whatever SC did to you by not Delivering on Time. But its clearly Hatred by now.
 
About YOU.
I bet if I were to Talk like this and call it an Discussion of you guys. I would be Banned within a matter of Minutes.

Chris Roberts - is that you?

Because, we aren't talking about a person. We are talking about a completely failed game development.

And let's just put it to rest about ED as I'm sure that is going to be the retort - No, ED is not the best damn space game/sim/whatever ever. It never claimed to be. It's just good, and it is fun. SC is neither of those, and it fails at everything except being a joke so far.
 
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Well I'll put my hand up and say I hate it, pretty much every aspect of SC.

Mind you I didn't at first, they've slowly worn me down and my patience with these people is a mere, hollow husk of what it was.
 
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